Rise of Domestic US terrorism fueled mostly by far right

[Washington Resistance Army]

A religious group that has been responsible for some of the most depraved atrocities that the modern world has ever seen.

Oh, please, come off it. Yes, some people of Muslim faith have committed acts of violence in the name of their religion. But that religious group is not responsible for that.

Tell me, what religious group is the greatest victim of ISIS violence?

Yazidis probably tbh.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Oh, please, come off it. Yes, some people of Muslim faith have committed acts of violence in the name of their religion. But that religious group is not responsible for that.

Tell me, what religious group is the greatest victim of ISIS violence?

Yazidis probably tbh.

Just in terms of raw numbers, it’s other Muslims. Because they are fighting not for all Islam, but their narrow conception of the religion.

[Phenix Springs]

A religious group that has been responsible for some of the most depraved atrocities that the modern world has ever seen.

Oh, please, come off it. Yes, some people of Muslim faith have committed acts of violence in the name of their religion. But that religious group is not responsible for that.

Tell me, what religious group is the greatest victim of ISIS violence?

“Some people of Muslim faith”

200,000 doesn’t seem like a small number.

And that’s only counting ISIS members. Not members of the Syrian jihadist opposition groups, the Iraqi jihadist opposition groups, Boko Haram, ISIS in Mozambique, the Taliban, al-Qaeda and so many others.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Oh, please, come off it. Yes, some people of Muslim faith have committed acts of violence in the name of their religion. But that religious group is not responsible for that.

Tell me, what religious group is the greatest victim of ISIS violence?

“Some people of Muslim faith”

200,000 doesn’t seem like a small number.

And that’s only counting ISIS members. Not members of the Syrian jihadist opposition groups, the Iraqi jihadist opposition groups, Boko Haram, ISIS in Mozambique, the Taliban, al-Qaeda and so many others.

I'll file that under rectally sourced statistics.

Anyway, even if this were true (Human Rights Watch places the number around 90.000, including Syria) that would still make it a vast minority in the Muslim community as a whole. Even Iraq has 40 million inhabitants, most of whom, as you will notice, have not joined ISIS. So how, exactly, is that representative? It isn't, of course, but you decided ISIS was representative of all Islam way before you pulled that 200.000 figure out of your ass.

The Second Klan had between 3 million and 6 million members, but I guess you don't think they represent you. Or you do, in which case this conversation is over.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Oh, please, come off it. Yes, some people of Muslim faith have committed acts of violence in the name of their religion. But that religious group is not responsible for that.

Tell me, what religious group is the greatest victim of ISIS violence?

“Some people of Muslim faith”

200,000 doesn’t seem like a small number.

And that’s only counting ISIS members. Not members of the Syrian jihadist opposition groups, the Iraqi jihadist opposition groups, Boko Haram, ISIS in Mozambique, the Taliban, al-Qaeda and so many others.

When there's 1.8 billion Muslims on earth, 200,000 is a small number. The way people make it out, you'd think every Muslim was a member of ISIS.

[Phenix Springs]

“Some people of Muslim faith”

200,000 doesn’t seem like a small number.

And that’s only counting ISIS members. Not members of the Syrian jihadist opposition groups, the Iraqi jihadist opposition groups, Boko Haram, ISIS in Mozambique, the Taliban, al-Qaeda and so many others.

I'll file that under rectally sourced statistics.

Anyway, even if this were true (Human Rights Watch places the number around 90.000, including Syria) that would still make it a vast minority in the Muslim community as a whole. Even Iraq has 40 million inhabitants, most of whom, as you will notice, have not joined ISIS. So how, exactly, is that representative? It isn't, of course, but you decided ISIS was representative of all Islam way before you pulled that 200.000 figure out of your ass.

The Second Klan had between 3 million and 6 million members, but I guess you don't think they represent you. Or you do, in which case this conversation is over.

Or you could file it under a claim made by the Peshmerge Chief of Staff. But whatever works for you, which I guess is just insults.

Besides, the amount of Muslims who condone Islamic extremism across the Middle East is far higher than the number of those who are actually members of militant groups.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I'll file that under rectally sourced statistics.

Anyway, even if this were true (Human Rights Watch places the number around 90.000, including Syria) that would still make it a vast minority in the Muslim community as a whole. Even Iraq has 40 million inhabitants, most of whom, as you will notice, have not joined ISIS. So how, exactly, is that representative? It isn't, of course, but you decided ISIS was representative of all Islam way before you pulled that 200.000 figure out of your ass.

The Second Klan had between 3 million and 6 million members, but I guess you don't think they represent you. Or you do, in which case this conversation is over.

Or you could file it under a claim made by the Peshmerge Chief of Staff. But whatever works for you, which I guess is just insults.

Besides, the amount of Muslims who condone Islamic extremism across the Middle East is far higher than the number of those who are actually members of militant groups.

So, your claim is that every Muslim is somehow responsible for Islamic terrorism, even their victims.

BUT;

You also don’t think cops, who voluntarily chose to make their profession in an organisation that is known as violent, can be judged for that.

So, you tried to call my out as a hypocrite... by revealing your own hypocracy? Pro gamer move I call that.

[Phenix Springs]

Or you could file it under a claim made by the Peshmerge Chief of Staff. But whatever works for you, which I guess is just insults.

Besides, the amount of Muslims who condone Islamic extremism across the Middle East is far higher than the number of those who are actually members of militant groups.

So, your claim is that every Muslim is somehow responsible for Islamic terrorism, even their victims.

BUT;

You also don’t think cops, who voluntarily chose to make their profession in an organisation that is known as violent, can be judged for that.

So, you tried to call my out as a hypocrite... by revealing your own hypocracy? Pro gamer move I call that.

Nope, I just think that Islam is the religion most prone to violent actions.

Aside from western nations supporting one side or the other, why dyou think the Middle East and Africa is a hotspot for religiously-motivated wars?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

So, your claim is that every Muslim is somehow responsible for Islamic terrorism, even their victims.

BUT;

You also don’t think cops, who voluntarily chose to make their profession in an organisation that is known as violent, can be judged for that.

So, you tried to call my out as a hypocrite... by revealing your own hypocracy? Pro gamer move I call that.

Nope, I just think that Islam is the religion most prone to violent actions.

Aside from western nations supporting one side or the other, why dyou think the Middle East and Africa is a hotspot for religiously-motivated wars?

This is not the place to have that discussion. In fact, nowhere is the place to have that discussion. Take your determinism and racism to a forum that cares to hear it.

[Phenix Springs]

Nope, I just think that Islam is the religion most prone to violent actions.

Aside from western nations supporting one side or the other, why dyou think the Middle East and Africa is a hotspot for religiously-motivated wars?

This is not the place to have that discussion. In fact, nowhere is the place to have that discussion. Take your determinism and racism to a forum that cares to hear it.

I thought that would be the response

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I'll file that under rectally sourced statistics.

Anyway, even if this were true (Human Rights Watch places the number around 90.000, including Syria) that would still make it a vast minority in the Muslim community as a whole. Even Iraq has 40 million inhabitants, most of whom, as you will notice, have not joined ISIS. So how, exactly, is that representative? It isn't, of course, but you decided ISIS was representative of all Islam way before you pulled that 200.000 figure out of your ass.

The Second Klan had between 3 million and 6 million members, but I guess you don't think they represent you. Or you do, in which case this conversation is over.

Or you could file it under a claim made by the Peshmerge Chief of Staff. But whatever works for you, which I guess is just insults.

Besides, the amount of Muslims who condone Islamic extremism across the Middle East is far higher than the number of those who are actually members of militant groups.

And yet it's still a minority.

[Elwher]

If that particular group defines all police, then I suppose you have no problem with those who define all young Black men by the actions of the ones who rob and attack 70-year-old women, right?

You do understand the difference between criticising institutions and falling back to some form of racist pseudo-science, right?

Or are you just waiting for criticism of any profession to come out and say you hate a certain ethnicity?

No, the point is that there are members of any group who do horrible things, but that does not mean that the entire group endorses the actions or should be tarred by the same brush.

BTW, where is the "racist pseudo-science" in my statement?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Did the thread go off the rails again?

We aren't talking Muslim extremists we are talking alt right terrorism.


A traitor has been charged with being a traitor.

[National Capitalist United States]

Did the thread go off the rails again?

We aren't talking Muslim extremists we are talking alt right terrorism.

Aren't muslim extremist far-right?

[The Rich Port]

Did the thread go off the rails again?

We aren't talking Muslim extremists we are talking alt right terrorism.

Aren't muslim extremist far-right?

Yeah, there's very little difference between Muslim terrorists and a lot of far right extremists. A lot of far-right extremists are also Christian extremists of some kind.

[Nakena]

Aren't muslim extremist far-right?

Yeah, there's very little difference between Muslim terrorists and a lot of far right extremists. A lot of far-right extremists are also Christian extremists of some kind.

I don't think its necessarily being helpful to project western conceptions upon other cultures. That being said theres similarities in demographic and personality structure between young western neo-nazi terrorist and radical salafi terrorists.

[Lady Victory]

Did the thread go off the rails again?

We aren't talking Muslim extremists we are talking alt right terrorism.


A traitor has been charged with being a traitor.

Jihadist ideology is fundamentally reactionary, conservative, and in many ways cryptofascist. They fit into the Far Right rather splendidly. The difference being they're religious chauvinists, not racial chauvinists.

[Kubra]

Yeah, there's very little difference between Muslim terrorists and a lot of far right extremists. A lot of far-right extremists are also Christian extremists of some kind.

I don't think its necessarily being helpful to project western conceptions upon other cultures. That being said theres similarities in demographic and personality structure between young western neo-nazi terrorist and radical salafi terrorists.

it's actually totes fine insofar as the whole left right thing was pretty normal in the middle East before, well, a lot of things happened in a lot of places and we came to here.

[The Rich Port]

Did the thread go off the rails again?

We aren't talking Muslim extremists we are talking alt right terrorism.


A traitor has been charged with being a traitor.

Jihadist ideology is fundamentally reactionary, conservative, and in many ways cryptofascist. They fit into the Far Right rather splendidly. The difference being they're religious chauvinists, not racial chauvinists.

And even then, some Jihadi fascists indeed do divide themselves along ethnic lines.

A major tenet of pan-Arabism is that the entirety of the Ummah, on top of being united around the Arabic language due to it being the holy language of Islam, should also have Arabics as the dominant culture and ethnicity and that the entirety of the Ummah should delegate it's powers to Arabic centers.

This is of course ignoring that Africa and the Middle East are not predominantly Arabic and the fact that Saudi Arabia holds a monopoly on Muslim holy sites (Mecca and Medinah being the primary ones in the whole religion) leaves many other Arabic and Muslim nation states greedy for more power.

OPEC and the Arabic League only have enough power as the members want it to have after all.

[Picairn]

https://mobile.twitter.com/L0m3z/status/1384244636143681547
So it turns out this was fake news

I searched the CSIS brief (both the research and the methodology ones), the ADL study, and the Washington Post article, yet I couldn't find this Minecraft footnote anywhere. Typing the words into Google search and it turned up in an iFunny picture or some obscure tweets.

[Picairn]

Wait, I found it! After going into the Google Image section, I found this very helpful tweet by Ryan J. Reilly, a Huffington Post reporter, who provided the source. The footnote is on page 3 of a court document titled "UNITED STATES’ REPLY TO DEFENDANT’S OPPOSITION TO
THE UNITED STATES’ MOTION TO REVOKE PRETRIAL RELEASE" in United States of America v. Ethan Nordean of the DC District Court.

[The Rich Port]

Wait, I found it! After going into the Google Image section, I found this very helpful tweet by Ryan J. Reilly, a Huffington Post reporter, who provided the source. The footnote is on page 3 of a court document titled "UNITED STATES’ REPLY TO DEFENDANT’S OPPOSITION TO
THE UNITED STATES’ MOTION TO REVOKE PRETRIAL RELEASE" in United States of America v. Ethan Nordean of the DC District Court.

And yeah, I called it... They were using Minecraft to plan shit.

"Hey are we gonna go kill some Jews... In Minecraft?"

"Yeah dude lol"

Well give Nordean some credit, nobody expects really silly pathetic shit like wackos fantasizing about committing real-life violence using Minecraft as a vector.

What are Proud Boys proud of again, cuz I'm not seeing anything to be proud of, this shit is fucking cringe.

Normiecons. Sounds like something you'd hear in My Little Pony.

[Baltenstein]

That's an absurdly high bar. Racism starts a lot earlier than that.

Nor did Ilhan call for any anti-Jewish laws or parroted any discriminatory tropes. Find me a clear and irrefutable example of Ilhan Omar being antisemitic, and then we can talk. Otherwise, you are talking horseshit.

You're the one who said that the prerequisite for being antisemitic is calling for the extermination of Jews, which is a wrong deduction, pure and simple. I'd say you're the one talking horseshit.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Nor did Ilhan call for any anti-Jewish laws or parroted any discriminatory tropes. Find me a clear and irrefutable example of Ilhan Omar being antisemitic, and then we can talk. Otherwise, you are talking horseshit.

You're the one who said that the prerequisite for being antisemitic is calling for the extermination of Jews, which is a wrong deduction, pure and simple. I'd say you're the one talking horseshit.

And I've expanded on the point to prevent further confusion, Baltenstein. Regardless, the fact remains that Ilhan has never pushed for any antisemitic laws and policies, nor did she engage in any discriminatory conduct herself. Criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu's Apartheid regime is in no way equivalent to antisemitism, just like criticizing Donald Trump and Joseph Biden is in no way being "Anti-American".

[Kubra]

Jihadist ideology is fundamentally reactionary, conservative, and in many ways cryptofascist. They fit into the Far Right rather splendidly. The difference being they're religious chauvinists, not racial chauvinists.

And even then, some Jihadi fascists indeed do divide themselves along ethnic lines.

A major tenet of pan-Arabism is that the entirety of the Ummah, on top of being united around the Arabic language due to it being the holy language of Islam, should also have Arabics as the dominant culture and ethnicity and that the entirety of the Ummah should delegate it's powers to Arabic centers.

This is of course ignoring that Africa and the Middle East are not predominantly Arabic and the fact that Saudi Arabia holds a monopoly on Muslim holy sites (Mecca and Medinah being the primary ones in the whole religion) leaves many other Arabic and Muslim nation states greedy for more power.

OPEC and the Arabic League only have enough power as the members want it to have after all.

I want to say "wait, that's not pan-arabism" but then I remember pan-arabism is no longer around and that may as well be the current pan-arabism.