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Postby Sengoku Americas » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:34 am

-Ocelot- wrote:Yeah, he is going to be murdered eventually. The worst thing is how many supporters of this regime will celebrate the death of a "foreign agent".


I wonder how many people will be relieved a notable far-right politician can't spread his lies anymore.
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Postby Sharania » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:01 am

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-Ocelot- wrote:Yeah, he is going to be murdered eventually. The worst thing is how many supporters of this regime will celebrate the death of a "foreign agent".


I wonder how many people will be relieved a notable far-right politician can't spread his lies anymore.


Just to be clear - do you want for Navalny to die?
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Postby Sharania » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:12 am

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National security adviser says White House is looking at options if Navalny dies in Russian custody

Washington (CNN)The Biden administration is weighing options to punish Russia if imprisoned opposition leader Alexey Navalny dies in state custody, national security adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday.

"We have communicated to the Russian government that what happens to Mr. Navalny in their custody is their responsibility and they will be held accountable by the international community," Sullivan told CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union." "In terms of the specific measures that we would take, we are looking at a variety of different costs that we would impose and I'm not going to telegraph that publicly at this point."

"But we have communicated that there will be consequences if Mr. Navalny dies," he added.

Navalny's supporters have said the 44-year-old Kremlin critic's health is rapidly deteriorating, with his press secretary saying he is "dying" and and his doctors saying medical tests show he's at growing risk of renal failure and heart problems. The physicians wrote a letter on Saturday to Russian prison services (FSIN) requesting access to see him. CNN is not able to independently verify the state of Navalny's health.


President Joe Biden on Saturday said Navalny's situation was "totally unfair and totally inappropriate" but declined to weigh in further. He did not raise Navalny during remarks about Russia sanctions this week, and the subject was not a topic of discussion in a phone call on Tuesday with Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to White House and Kremlin readouts of the conversation.

Asked by Bash why Biden had not used his platform to call for Navalny's release this week, Sullivan said the White House had determined that private communications were more effective.

"We actually have made the judgment that direct communication to the Russian government on this issue -- including both how we see it, how our allies and partners see it and what might unfold should something terrible happen to Mr. Navalny ... should he pass away -- and we have judged that rather than just make general statements publicly, the best way to deal with this issue is privately and through diplomatic channels direct to the upper-most levels of the Russian government," Sullivan said.


Sullivan on Sunday declined to say whether Biden would still agree to meet with Putin should Navalny die in prison.


Well, the last one is just disgraceful. First Biden's admin pandering to the nativists and now this.

Meanwhile, Navalny supporters are calling for a huge protest rally next week (Google translate):

There are circumstances in which you need to act quickly, otherwise the irreparable will happen.

We decided not to wait for the gathering of 500,000 people on our website. Events are moving too fast and too bad. You can't put it off any longer.

We are announcing a rally now.

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Postby The Holy Britainnian Empire » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:14 am

Wouldn't that just cause his health to decline more?
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Postby Mercatus » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:05 pm

The Holy Britainnian Empire wrote:Wouldn't that just cause his health to decline more?


His doctors said he’s on course to die in a few days.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:49 pm

Sengoku Americas wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:Yeah, he is going to be murdered eventually. The worst thing is how many supporters of this regime will celebrate the death of a "foreign agent".


I wonder how many people will be relieved a notable far-right politician can't spread his lies anymore.


I was talking about Navalny, not Putin.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:14 pm

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Sengoku Americas wrote:
I wonder how many people will be relieved a notable far-right politician can't spread his lies anymore.


I was talking about Navalny, not Putin.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:15 am

Mercatus wrote:His doctors said he’s on course to die in a few days.


He should eat something already if he has anything available. Only if he's starved for too long, he can't eat too much anymore until restored to full health. He probably needs an IV drip. What does this hunger strike accomplish, seeing as how Russia isn't going to care? Putin will just get what he wants if Navalny kills himself.
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:25 am

Saiwania wrote:
Mercatus wrote:His doctors said he’s on course to die in a few days.


The dumbass should eat something already if he has anything available. Only if he's starved for too long, he can't eat too much anymore until restored to full health. He probably needs an IV drip. What does this hunger strike accomplish, seeing as how Russia isn't going to care? Putin will just get what he wants if Navalny kills himself.

His death will be a great victory for the opposition. I think it’s safe to assume that he knows that he’ll die if he doesn’t eat something yet still he is planning to die. His death will, probably, result in my nation’s people taking to the streets like the people in Belarus did back in 2020, and trust me, we, Russians, know how to fight with authority. A snowball will start which will end in either a civil war or Putin’s reign finally ending.
I actually believe that if Navalny dies, it’ll be, effectively, a self-sacrifice. Despite the fact that I don’t support many of his politics (namely his tolerance to LGBTQ community) I’d support him just for the cause. What a mad lad...
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:34 am

Navalny being transferred to a prisoners’ hospital notorious for abusing inmates

Following reports of Alexey Navalny’s health deteriorating critically amid his prison hunger strike, Russian prison officials announced on Monday that the opposition politician is being transferred to a prisoners’ hospital in the Vladimir region. The hospital is located on the grounds of Correctional Facility No. 3 — a notorious prison where inmates have reported experiencing torture and abuse inside the medical ward. One former inmate said that patients who protest the prison hospital’s conditions are beaten up and tied to their beds for days on end. Opposition politician Alexey Navalny is being moved to a hospital for prisoners in the Vladimir region, local Federal Penitentiary Service (FSIN) officials announced on Monday. The hospital is located on the grounds of Correctional Facility No. 3 (IK-3). Prison officials described Navalny’s condition as “satisfactory,” adding that he is being examined by a general practitioner daily. Navalny, who has been on hunger strike since March 31, is now receiving “vitamin therapy” apparently with his consent. Asked about the critical state of Navalny’s health, Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Monday that the Kremlin isn’t involved in “monitoring the health of Russian prisoners.”

Correctional Facility No.3’s hospital has faced allegations of prisoner abuse. In an interview with Vot.tak.tv, former inmate Dmitry Mudrichenko said that the hospital’s patients are beaten “for the slightest misdeed or inadvertent mistake.” He described the hospital wards as stuffy cells with closed windows, holding five to eight inmates who aren’t allowed to lie down during the day. Apparently even leaning on the beds is forbidden. Sometimes exceptions are made for an hour or an hour and a half at a time, Mudrichenko said (he called this a “quiet hour”). Those who try to protest the hospital’s conditions are beaten up and then tied to a bed for several days, preventing them from going to the toilet on their own.

The prisoners’ hospital has also faced allegations of torturing inmates, as the outlet Daily Storm reported in 2018, citing several prisoners. According to the outlet’s sources, inmates collaborating with the prison administration torture other prisoners with electric shocks, allegedly for the purpose of “re-education” or in connection with ongoing investigations. Former inmates said that those who can’t withstand the torture end up signing whatever documents the prison administration or state investigators put in front of them. Apparently the torture usually takes place in the prison hospital’s psychiatric ward.
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Postby Shanghai industrial complex » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:26 pm

Scum like navalny has destroyed the Soviet Union and now wants to destroy Russia.These guys need to be arrested and put on the gallows one by one.I can't believe why such traitors are allowed to live.This guy obviously took American money.The Russian Communist Party and Cheka,the All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution, Profiteering and Corruption, must be rebuilt as soon as possible
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Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Scum like navalny has destroyed the Soviet Union and now wants to destroy Russia.These guys need to be arrested and put on the gallows one by one.I can't believe why such traitors are allowed to live.This guy obviously took American money


The Soviet Union destroyed itself by hyper-focusing on heavy industry at the expense of light industry or a service industry. While yes the Reformists did make a lot of mistakes, the car was already off the cliff by that point.
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Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Scum like navalny has destroyed the Soviet Union and now wants to destroy Russia.These guys need to be arrested and put on the gallows one by one.I can't believe why such traitors are allowed to live.This guy obviously took American money


The Soviet Union destroyed itself by hyper-focusing on heavy industry at the expense of light industry or a service industry. While yes the Reformists did make a lot of mistakes, the car was already off the cliff by that point.

But the Soviet Union could still avoid disintegration.It was these liberals who betrayed the Soviet Union's people and kicked it off the cliff
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:37 pm

Honestly? I think Navalny is a dead man no matter what. It's just a matter of if he dies a martyr for Putin's opposition for all the world to see or if he goes quietly like Putin wants.
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Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Scum like navalny has destroyed the Soviet Union and now wants to destroy Russia.These guys need to be arrested and put on the gallows one by one.I can't believe why such traitors are allowed to live.This guy obviously took American money.The Russian Communist Party and Cheka,the All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution, Profiteering and Corruption, must be rebuilt as soon as possible

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Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Scum like navalny has destroyed the Soviet Union and now wants to destroy Russia.These guys need to be arrested and put on the gallows one by one.I can't believe why such traitors are allowed to live.This guy obviously took American money.The Russian Communist Party and Cheka,the All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution, Profiteering and Corruption, must be rebuilt as soon as possible

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Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Scum like navalny has destroyed the Soviet Union and now wants to destroy Russia.These guys need to be arrested and put on the gallows one by one.I can't believe why such traitors are allowed to live.This guy obviously took American money.The Russian Communist Party and Cheka,the All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution, Profiteering and Corruption, must be rebuilt as soon as possible

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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:15 am

I'm not a huge fan of Putin, and I'm even less of a fan of Navalny.

It's a Russian issue. They should deal with it themselves, which the west should respect, without involving themselves.
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Postby Sharania » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:25 pm

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:His death will be a great victory for the opposition. I think it’s safe to assume that he knows that he’ll die if he doesn’t eat something yet still he is planning to die. His death will, probably, result in my nation’s people taking to the streets like the people in Belarus did back in 2020, and trust me, we, Russians, know how to fight with authority. A snowball will start which will end in either a civil war or Putin’s reign finally ending.


Oh, really?! Why then Russians did not protest last year, when Putin decided to amend the constitution to make him president for life? When were all "freedom-loving Russians" when year after year their rights got further cut, activists beaten, killed, exiled and/or arrested?

Where are these imaginary “freedom-loving Russians” who "know how to fight with authority" now, when the Regime is amassing troops near Ukraine and prepares to launch another invasion?

I have 2 questions to you:

- Will you come out tomorrow to protest?
- Do you recognize Crimea as Ukrainian?

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I actually believe that if Navalny dies, it’ll be, effectively, a self-sacrifice. Despite the fact that I don’t support many of his politics (namely his tolerance to LGBTQ community) I’d support him just for the cause. What a mad lad...


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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:27 pm

can someone just bump this when he finally dies, I don't think there's much more to say at this point is there?
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Postby Sharania » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:30 pm

Senkaku wrote:can someone just bump this when he finally dies, I don't think there's much more to say at this point is there?


There is a huge rally tomorrow called by his supporters. Or, what, you posted only to say how much you don't care whether he lives or dies?
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:38 pm

Sharania wrote:
Senkaku wrote:can someone just bump this when he finally dies, I don't think there's much more to say at this point is there?


There is a huge rally tomorrow called by his supporters.

Well, apparently there is more to say then, look at me learning something
Or, what, you posted only to say how much you don't care whether he lives or dies?

where did I say I didn't care if he lives or dies..?
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