American Politics Thread V: We're Just Biden Our Time ...

[Zurkerx]

Apple will bring Parler back on the App Store. This comes after social media company made improvements to better detect and moderate hate speech and incitement, according to a letter the iPhone maker sent to Congress on Monday. I sense those improvements won't last long.

Manchin comes out in support of the PRO act

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) on Monday threw his support behind the PRO Act, union-backed legislation to promote labor organizing.

The PRO Act would block "right-to-work" laws, which allow people who benefit from union representation to opt out of membership and paying dues, and impose tougher restrictions on companies seeking to prevent unionization efforts.

It passed in the House last month in a narrow, party-line vote of 225-206, with just five GOP members supporting it and one Democrat voting against. [...]Sens. Mark Kelly (D-AZ), Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), Mark Warner (D-VA) and Angus King (I-ME) have yet to co-sponsor the bill.

In addition, Manchin specified that he hopes to advance it through a bipartisan legislative process, meaning support from at least 10 GOP senators would be necessary, an unlikely outcome.

"Fifty percent of unions fail in their first year of organizing. This legislation will level the playing field," Manchin said at a National Press Club virtual event on climate change, adding that he would be a co-sponsor of the bill.

While President Biden included the PRO Act in his $2.3 trillion infrastructure proposal, Republicans are not expected to include it in their smaller counterproposal.

Hmm, I suspect if he supports it, the other three will too though this will pass along a party-line vote, and I can see Court Challenges in regards to "right-to-work" laws given those kind of laws were passed by the States. My belief on unions is simple: if you want to be in a Union, okay, but you have to pay Union dues. If not, you don't have to pay dues but don't get the benefits of said Union.

[Kowani]

Apple will bring Parler back on the App Store. This comes after social media company made improvements to better detect and moderate hate speech and incitement, according to a letter the iPhone maker sent to Congress on Monday. I sense those improvements won't last long.

Manchin comes out in support of the PRO act

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) on Monday threw his support behind the PRO Act, union-backed legislation to promote labor organizing.

The PRO Act would block "right-to-work" laws, which allow people who benefit from union representation to opt out of membership and paying dues, and impose tougher restrictions on companies seeking to prevent unionization efforts.

It passed in the House last month in a narrow, party-line vote of 225-206, with just five GOP members supporting it and one Democrat voting against. [...]Sens. Mark Kelly (D-AZ), Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), Mark Warner (D-VA) and Angus King (I-ME) have yet to co-sponsor the bill.

In addition, Manchin specified that he hopes to advance it through a bipartisan legislative process, meaning support from at least 10 GOP senators would be necessary, an unlikely outcome.

"Fifty percent of unions fail in their first year of organizing. This legislation will level the playing field," Manchin said at a National Press Club virtual event on climate change, adding that he would be a co-sponsor of the bill.

While President Biden included the PRO Act in his $2.3 trillion infrastructure proposal, Republicans are not expected to include it in their smaller counterproposal.

Hmm, I suspect if he supports it, the other three will too though this will pass along a party-line vote, and I can see Court Challenges in regards to "right-to-work" laws given those kind of laws were passed by the States.

won't matter
straightforward reading of the Commerce Clause

[Zurkerx]

Apple will bring Parler back on the App Store. This comes after social media company made improvements to better detect and moderate hate speech and incitement, according to a letter the iPhone maker sent to Congress on Monday. I sense those improvements won't last long.



Hmm, I suspect if he supports it, the other three will too though this will pass along a party-line vote, and I can see Court Challenges in regards to "right-to-work" laws given those kind of laws were passed by the States.

won't matter
straightforward reading of the Commerce Clause

Ah, I see. The Commerce Clause I'm not too verse (I haven't read it in a long time), but I do know Right-to-Work Laws became prominent after the passing of the Taft–Hartley Act. So basically, States with Right-to-work Laws wouldn't be able to sue?

[Kowani]

won't matter
straightforward reading of the Commerce Clause

Ah, I see. The Commerce Clause I'm not too verse (I haven't read it in a long time), but I do know Right-to-Work Laws became prominent after the passing of the Taft–Hartley Act. So basically, States with Right-to-work Laws wouldn't be able to sue?

I mean
you can sue for anything
there's just no way you'd win
it's impossible to argue that Unionization rights don't affect interstate commerce, especially in the age of mega-corporations.

[Zurkerx]

Ah, I see. The Commerce Clause I'm not too verse (I haven't read it in a long time), but I do know Right-to-Work Laws became prominent after the passing of the Taft–Hartley Act. So basically, States with Right-to-work Laws wouldn't be able to sue?

I mean
you can sue for anything
there's just no way you'd win
it's impossible to argue that Unionization rights don't affect interstate commerce, especially in the age of mega-corporations.

That is true. It would mostly fall under hurting economic growth though how far that argument goes is up for debate. But knowing the GOP, if there's a will, there's a way, and I suspect they'll try; we've seen them try to bring up baseless election cases after all.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... 0-refugees

The White House insisted Monday that President Biden’s goal of increasing the annual cap on refugee admissions to 62,500 was always “aspirational” but that he remains committed to upping the number above the Trump-era level of 15,000.

“We have every intention to increase the cap and to make an announcement of that by May 15 at the latest, and I expect it will be sooner than that,” press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters at an afternoon briefing. “The president also remains committed to pursuing the aspirational goal of reaching 125,000 refugees by the end of the next fiscal year.”

[Neutraligon]

Apple will bring Parler back on the App Store. This comes after social media company made improvements to better detect and moderate hate speech and incitement, according to a letter the iPhone maker sent to Congress on Monday. I sense those improvements won't last long.

Manchin comes out in support of the PRO act

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) on Monday threw his support behind the PRO Act, union-backed legislation to promote labor organizing.

The PRO Act would block "right-to-work" laws, which allow people who benefit from union representation to opt out of membership and paying dues, and impose tougher restrictions on companies seeking to prevent unionization efforts.

It passed in the House last month in a narrow, party-line vote of 225-206, with just five GOP members supporting it and one Democrat voting against. [...]Sens. Mark Kelly (D-AZ), Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), Mark Warner (D-VA) and Angus King (I-ME) have yet to co-sponsor the bill.

In addition, Manchin specified that he hopes to advance it through a bipartisan legislative process, meaning support from at least 10 GOP senators would be necessary, an unlikely outcome.

"Fifty percent of unions fail in their first year of organizing. This legislation will level the playing field," Manchin said at a National Press Club virtual event on climate change, adding that he would be a co-sponsor of the bill.

While President Biden included the PRO Act in his $2.3 trillion infrastructure proposal, Republicans are not expected to include it in their smaller counterproposal.

Hmm, I suspect if he supports it, the other three will too though this will pass along a party-line vote, and I can see Court Challenges in regards to "right-to-work" laws given those kind of laws were passed by the States. My belief on unions is simple: if you want to be in a Union, okay, but you have to pay Union dues. If not, you don't have to pay dues but don't get the benefits of said Union.

The problem is certain things make it harder since a person will get the benefits no matter what. For instance a safer environment would be safer for everyone, regardless of if they pay dues.

[Kilobugya]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/549042-white-house-defends-aspirational-goal-of-62500-refugees

The White House insisted Monday that President Biden’s goal of increasing the annual cap on refugee admissions to 62,500 was always “aspirational” but that he remains committed to upping the number above the Trump-era level of 15,000.

“We have every intention to increase the cap and to make an announcement of that by May 15 at the latest, and I expect it will be sooner than that,” press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters at an afternoon briefing. “The president also remains committed to pursuing the aspirational goal of reaching 125,000 refugees by the end of the next fiscal year.”

The whole problem is in having a cap. That's contrary to international conventions and humanitarian values. Every person asking for refugee status should have their case fairly examined, and should be granted permission to stay if there is credible evidence they would be in danger back home - be it because of war, government oppression, gangs, drug cartels, economical conditions, or whatever.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/549042-white-house-defends-aspirational-goal-of-62500-refugees

The White House insisted Monday that President Biden’s goal of increasing the annual cap on refugee admissions to 62,500 was always “aspirational” but that he remains committed to upping the number above the Trump-era level of 15,000.

“We have every intention to increase the cap and to make an announcement of that by May 15 at the latest, and I expect it will be sooner than that,” press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters at an afternoon briefing. “The president also remains committed to pursuing the aspirational goal of reaching 125,000 refugees by the end of the next fiscal year.”

The whole problem is in having a cap. That's contrary to international conventions and humanitarian values. Every person asking for refugee status should have their case fairly examined, and should be granted permission to stay if there is credible evidence they would be in danger back home - be it because of war, government oppression, gangs, drug cartels, economical conditions, or whatever.

I agree there should not be a cap but I don't think its feasible to take in everyone who wants refugee status.

[Kilobugya]

The whole problem is in having a cap. That's contrary to international conventions and humanitarian values. Every person asking for refugee status should have their case fairly examined, and should be granted permission to stay if there is credible evidence they would be in danger back home - be it because of war, government oppression, gangs, drug cartels, economical conditions, or whatever.

I agree there should not be a cap but I don't think its feasible to take in everyone who wants refugee status.

Ideally, everyone who wants it. USA is big enough for it to be feasible if they wanted to. But at least everyone who can show evidence they are in need of it, and with a reasonable bar for evidence not an impossible to clear one, without a cap.

[San Lumen]

I agree there should not be a cap but I don't think its feasible to take in everyone who wants refugee status.

Ideally, everyone who wants it. USA is big enough for it to be feasible if they wanted to. But at least everyone who can show evidence they are in need of it, and with a reasonable bar for evidence not an impossible to clear one, without a cap.

I agree with you completely but its unlikely to happen. There would to much opposition to it.

[Zurkerx]

Apple will bring Parler back on the App Store. This comes after social media company made improvements to better detect and moderate hate speech and incitement, according to a letter the iPhone maker sent to Congress on Monday. I sense those improvements won't last long.



Hmm, I suspect if he supports it, the other three will too though this will pass along a party-line vote, and I can see Court Challenges in regards to "right-to-work" laws given those kind of laws were passed by the States. My belief on unions is simple: if you want to be in a Union, okay, but you have to pay Union dues. If not, you don't have to pay dues but don't get the benefits of said Union.

The problem is certain things make it harder since a person will get the benefits no matter what. For instance a safer environment would be safer for everyone, regardless of if they pay dues.

Hmm, good point. Those kind of benefits brought by a union, IE safer work environment, is one that everyone would benefit from, even if they aren't a part of the union though I feel that's not enough to force people not in a union to pay dues to said union. Perhaps what I'm saying is those extra benefits are as followed: additional protections from being fired unjustly, union healthcare/pension, right to go on strike, higher wages, etc.

[Kowani]

MyPillow has now counter-sued Dominion, alleging that its employees "live in fear" and have been threatened because of Dominion's "illegal campaign of intimidation", as well as claiming that Dominion...violated their First Amendment rights

Full lawsuit here

[Untecna]

MyPillow has now counter-sued Dominion, alleging that its employees "live in fear" and have been threatened because of Dominion's "illegal campaign of intimidation", as well as claiming that Dominion...violated their First Amendment rights

Full lawsuit here

What the heck did I miss.

[Seangoli]

MyPillow has now counter-sued Dominion, alleging that its employees "live in fear" and have been threatened because of Dominion's "illegal campaign of intimidation", as well as claiming that Dominion...violated their First Amendment rights

Full lawsuit here

Truth is an absolute defense against defamation. It makes no difference if the statements lead to harm, either material or perceived, so long as they are true, they are protected.

In this case, Dominion is suing for statements My pillow actually made. There is literally no defamation here. There is an argument that MyPillow's CEO's statements are not defamatory, which remains to be determined in court, however the mere fact he made them makes this entire case frivolous, stupid, and inane. No lawyer with any level of ethical standards would represent him in this, as it is such a trivially stupid lawsuit. As it stands, this is a great way to pay Dominion's legal fees.

You said what they are alleging. Ergo, their lawsuit is not defamation as a matter of fact. Regardless of how bad it has damaged your reputation, sales, or the like it cannot legally be defamatory.

[The Black Forrest]

MyPillow has now counter-sued Dominion, alleging that its employees "live in fear" and have been threatened because of Dominion's "illegal campaign of intimidation", as well as claiming that Dominion...violated their First Amendment rights

Full lawsuit here

Let’s see. The Trumpet lawsuit record is?......I think we can make a safe guess of it being tossed.....then again.....Did somebody see Jem'Hadar walking around?

[Seangoli]

MyPillow has now counter-sued Dominion, alleging that its employees "live in fear" and have been threatened because of Dominion's "illegal campaign of intimidation", as well as claiming that Dominion...violated their First Amendment rights

Full lawsuit here

What the heck did I miss.

A truly asinine court filing. They are essentially claiming that since Dominion is a contractor for the government for goods and services, they are agents of the government and should be treated as such in their violation of civil liberties involving the first and fourteenth amendment. On top of this, a whole lot of nonsense that is largely irrelevant to the case at hand.

The stupidity is breathtaking.

[Senkaku]

MyPillow has now counter-sued Dominion, alleging that its employees "live in fear" and have been threatened because of Dominion's "illegal campaign of intimidation", as well as claiming that Dominion...violated their First Amendment rights

Full lawsuit here

[screaming with rage that my God-given right as an American to libelously defame a company in service of fomenting insurrection is being suppressed]

[Senkaku]

Biden didnt give me my covid check. made me racist and shit

same :/

[The Reformed American Republic]

Biden didnt give me my covid check. made me racist and shit

same :/

Btw, look at his post history, lol.

[Senkaku]

same :/

Btw, look at his post history, lol.

you don't have to be Shakespeare to occasionally write something funny

[Postauthoritarian America]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/549042-white-house-defends-aspirational-goal-of-62500-refugees

The White House insisted Monday that President Biden’s goal of increasing the annual cap on refugee admissions to 62,500 was always “aspirational” but that he remains committed to upping the number above the Trump-era level of 15,000.

“We have every intention to increase the cap and to make an announcement of that by May 15 at the latest, and I expect it will be sooner than that,” press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters at an afternoon briefing. “The president also remains committed to pursuing the aspirational goal of reaching 125,000 refugees by the end of the next fiscal year.”

The whole problem is in having a cap. That's contrary to international conventions and humanitarian values. Every person asking for refugee status should have their case fairly examined, and should be granted permission to stay if there is credible evidence they would be in danger back home - be it because of war, government oppression, gangs, drug cartels, economical conditions, or whatever.

Capping refugee admissions may run contrary to human rights and values but not to international law. Under international refugee conventions, individuals have a right to seek refugee status, not to be granted that status. Nations have a right, but not an obligation, to accept refugees. One thing nations cannot do under the conventions is return individuals seeking refugee status to the countries they fled from.

[Kowani]

Medical examiner rules that Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died one day after the Storming of the Capitol, died of “natural causes”

Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes one day after confronting rioters at the January 6 Capitol riot, Washington, DC's, chief medical examiner has ruled, according to the Washington Post.

The medical examiner found that Sicknick had two strokes before he died, the Post reported.

Francisco J. Diaz, the medical examiner, told The Post that Sicknick, 42, did not have an allergic reaction to chemical irritants that would have caused his throat to tighten, nor did he have any internal or external injuries.

Diaz did say, however, that "all that transpired" at the Capitol riot "played a role in his condition."

The medical examiner's office did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

Capitol Police previously said Sicknick died after he was injured while "physically engaging with protesters."

The department released a statement on Monday, which said, "the USCP accepts the findings from the District of Columbia's Office of the Chief Medical Examiner that Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes."

[Major-Tom]

Apple will bring Parler back on the App Store. This comes after social media company made improvements to better detect and moderate hate speech and incitement, according to a letter the iPhone maker sent to Congress on Monday. I sense those improvements won't last long.

Manchin comes out in support of the PRO act

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) on Monday threw his support behind the PRO Act, union-backed legislation to promote labor organizing.

The PRO Act would block "right-to-work" laws, which allow people who benefit from union representation to opt out of membership and paying dues, and impose tougher restrictions on companies seeking to prevent unionization efforts.

It passed in the House last month in a narrow, party-line vote of 225-206, with just five GOP members supporting it and one Democrat voting against. [...]Sens. Mark Kelly (D-AZ), Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), Mark Warner (D-VA) and Angus King (I-ME) have yet to co-sponsor the bill.

In addition, Manchin specified that he hopes to advance it through a bipartisan legislative process, meaning support from at least 10 GOP senators would be necessary, an unlikely outcome.

"Fifty percent of unions fail in their first year of organizing. This legislation will level the playing field," Manchin said at a National Press Club virtual event on climate change, adding that he would be a co-sponsor of the bill.

While President Biden included the PRO Act in his $2.3 trillion infrastructure proposal, Republicans are not expected to include it in their smaller counterproposal.

Hmm, I suspect if he supports it, the other three will too though this will pass along a party-line vote, and I can see Court Challenges in regards to "right-to-work" laws given those kind of laws were passed by the States. My belief on unions is simple: if you want to be in a Union, okay, but you have to pay Union dues. If not, you don't have to pay dues but don't get the benefits of said Union.

I would put money on Sinema being the lone no vote from a Dem. Her record is very anti-union, which aligns with her voter base (blue-leaning Arizona suburbanites who remain fiscally conservative).

[Postauthoritarian America]

MyPillow has now counter-sued Dominion, alleging that its employees "live in fear" and have been threatened because of Dominion's "illegal campaign of intimidation", as well as claiming that Dominion...violated their First Amendment rights

Full lawsuit here

Let’s see. The Trumpet lawsuit record is?......I think we can make a safe guess of it being tossed.....then again.....Did somebody see Jem'Hadar walking around?

The legal eagles behind this one reportedly include your friend and mine Alan Dershowitz and Nathan Lewin, who has argued First Amendment law before the Supremes. His, shall we say novel, legal theory in this case is that Dominion, by bidding on and winning state government contracts to provide voting systems for elections, was acting as a "government agent" so despite its putative status as a private entity would be subject to the prohibitions the Constitution places on governmental bodies. :hm: