by Australian rePublic » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:49 am
by Dakini » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:06 am
by Krasny-Volny » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:45 am
Australian rePublic wrote:All over the world, there is extreme oppression. Uighurs in China are suffering holocaust-style genocide, in some countries, some religious groups are being oppressed, China has a satanic social credit score, and let's not even get into North Korea.
So this isn't a list of oppression happening, the question here is, what can we (regular people with little voice or power) do about it?
Well for one thing, we could learn from SJWs. SJWs some how have a huge voice but waste it on trying to solve imaginary problems, rather than solving actual problems. We need to learn how they manage to change everything. Secondly, we need to boycott companies who actively promote or use slave labour (e.g. Disney) and third, we need to call out companies which pretend to be moral and care about morals, but actually promote oppression. SO what do you guys think?
Dakini wrote:Boycotting is an option, but it's nearly impossible to do properly as nearly every product you can buy is produced unethically (there is basically no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism).
The food you eat was probably harvested by people being paid substandard wages in poor conditions (this goes for fruits and vegetables as well as meats (slaughterhouse conditions are notoriously atrocious and there is actual slavery involved in some types of fishing)). The rare earth metals in your electronics were probably mined under unethical conditions as well as having severe environmental consequences, unless you're willing to pay a premium your clothing is probably manufactured with slave or underpaid labour somewhere in the supply chain (often this is true even if you are willing to pay a premium) and the environmental degradation associated with manufacturing clothing is also non-trivial.
Personally, I try to buy as little as possible in general, choosing products that minimize suffering and environmental damage as much as I can.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:49 am
by Mannixa Prime » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:51 am
by The Two Jerseys » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:13 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:37 am
by Adamede » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:57 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Lock up all the arms dealers. This isn't a joke
Arms are a productivity tool for oppressors.
I’ll have you know I have no sense of humor and take everything literally.The Two Jerseys wrote:Become an arms dealer and traffic guns to the oppressed. For legal purposes, this is a joke.
by The Two Jerseys » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:18 pm
Adamede wrote:As an individual? Next to nothing that you can realistically do. This isn’t V for Vendetta.
Oppression, and at its core power, comes at the hands of a collective. Apes together strong and all that, especially when it allows you to go around slapping around the lesser monkeys.An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Lock up all the arms dealers. This isn't a joke
Arms are a productivity tool for oppressors.
No more than they’re a tool to allow the oppressed to fight back. But tell me how the fact that the jackboots being armed with billy Luba rather than handguns changes the fact that they’re storming into your house unit the middle of the night to make you disappear?I’ll have you know I have no sense of humor and take everything literally.The Two Jerseys wrote:Become an arms dealer and traffic guns to the oppressed. For legal purposes, this is a joke.
by -Ocelot- » Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:24 pm
by Mercatus » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:11 pm
-Ocelot- wrote:People living in democracies should stop supporting Fascist and Communist parties, or people whose goal is to destroy said democracies. They should also stop buying foreign, anti-democratic propaganda all the time.
People living in authoritarian states should attempt to emigrate to democratic nations to weaken the dictatorships indirectly.
by Mercatus » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:11 pm
-Ocelot- wrote:People living in democracies should stop supporting Fascist and Communist parties, or people whose goal is to destroy said democracies. They should also stop buying foreign, anti-democratic propaganda all the time.
People living in authoritarian states should attempt to emigrate to democratic nations to weaken the dictatorships indirectly.
by Australian rePublic » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:13 pm
Nousa wrote:Cut all ties with the State of Israel and arrest/disband the ADL, for a start. Then start arresting heads of major financial institutions and political donors in the United States.
by Washington Resistance Army » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:19 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Nousa wrote:Cut all ties with the State of Israel and arrest/disband the ADL, for a start. Then start arresting heads of major financial institutions and political donors in the United States.
I don't get all the anti-Israel sentiment. Especially by the people who go nuts about Indigenous and women's rights in the west. I mean, if you want Indigenous autonomy, you have to support Israel, as the Jews are Indigenous to the area. Further, Israel is one of the only countries in the Middle East which supports women's rights and the only democracy in the Middle East, save for Lebanon. Without Israel, the Jews would be stateless. Why would anybody not support Israel
by Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:33 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Nousa wrote:Cut all ties with the State of Israel and arrest/disband the ADL, for a start. Then start arresting heads of major financial institutions and political donors in the United States.
I don't get all the anti-Israel sentiment. Especially by the people who go nuts about Indigenous and women's rights in the west. I mean, if you want Indigenous autonomy, you have to support Israel, as the Jews are Indigenous to the area. Further, Israel is one of the only countries in the Middle East which supports women's rights and the only democracy in the Middle East, save for Lebanon. Without Israel, the Jews would be stateless. Why would anybody not support Israel
by Neanderthaland » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:41 pm
Nousa wrote:Cut all ties with the State of Israel and arrest/disband the ADL, for a start. Then start arresting heads of major financial institutions and political donors in the United States.
by Sengoku Americas » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:09 pm
Five nations, one continent.
"Let everyone put forth their full effort for the reconstruction of our wonderful garden!"
by Aguaria Major » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:22 pm
by Australian rePublic » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:32 pm
Aguaria Major wrote:Vote for socialism.
Much of the oppression that exists across the world today is a direct result of the colonialist dynamic (of rich importer nations and impoverished exporter nations) from the late 19th and early 20th centuries being re-asserted post-decolonization through the globalization of capitalism - rich nations have got richer and poor nations have stayed poor. Poor people are desperate and often elect dictators who make promises to alleviate that poverty at the expense of groups they deem to be, "the other".
Slavery and forced prison labor still exist as a result of the desire for the cheapest labor possible, and the Chinese are only aggressively expanding as much as they are so as to be able to be at the center of world trade again and be able to dethrone the US in its own game.
The US has also been responsible for keeping the developing world from progressing beyond poverty and asserting itself for decades through CIA intervention to protect the interests of the corporations who have bought out our government. So if you live in the US, like I do, then I reiterate:
Vote. For. Socialism.
That could either mean voting for candidates who have to disguise themselves as Democrats, or voting for people like the DSA, but either way - vote socialist.
by Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:41 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Aguaria Major wrote:Vote for socialism.
Much of the oppression that exists across the world today is a direct result of the colonialist dynamic (of rich importer nations and impoverished exporter nations) from the late 19th and early 20th centuries being re-asserted post-decolonization through the globalization of capitalism - rich nations have got richer and poor nations have stayed poor. Poor people are desperate and often elect dictators who make promises to alleviate that poverty at the expense of groups they deem to be, "the other".
Slavery and forced prison labor still exist as a result of the desire for the cheapest labor possible, and the Chinese are only aggressively expanding as much as they are so as to be able to be at the center of world trade again and be able to dethrone the US in its own game.
The US has also been responsible for keeping the developing world from progressing beyond poverty and asserting itself for decades through CIA intervention to protect the interests of the corporations who have bought out our government. So if you live in the US, like I do, then I reiterate:
Vote. For. Socialism.
That could either mean voting for candidates who have to disguise themselves as Democrats, or voting for people like the DSA, but either way - vote socialist.
Socialism is just terrible. Everyone that's tried socialism has suffered greatly for it.
by Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:47 pm
Nousa wrote:Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:There are the authoritarian variants, and then there are the libertarian variants. The latter have generally been resounding successes, such as the Rojava, Zapatistas, etc.
The Zapatistas are barely above smashing rocks together, to call them a success is very much to be uninformed about the facts on the ground. Wouldn't surprise me much if the claims about Rojava are likewise.
by Dakini » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:44 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Nousa wrote:Cut all ties with the State of Israel and arrest/disband the ADL, for a start. Then start arresting heads of major financial institutions and political donors in the United States.
I don't get all the anti-Israel sentiment. Especially by the people who go nuts about Indigenous and women's rights in the west. I mean, if you want Indigenous autonomy, you have to support Israel, as the Jews are Indigenous to the area. Further, Israel is one of the only countries in the Middle East which supports women's rights and the only democracy in the Middle East, save for Lebanon. Without Israel, the Jews would be stateless. Why would anybody not support Israel
by Major-Tom » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:47 pm
by -Ocelot- » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:33 am
Mercatus wrote:-Ocelot- wrote:People living in democracies should stop supporting Fascist and Communist parties, or people whose goal is to destroy said democracies. They should also stop buying foreign, anti-democratic propaganda all the time.
People living in authoritarian states should attempt to emigrate to democratic nations to weaken the dictatorships indirectly.
Or we could sell oppressed people machine guns to take down their dictatorships. The less people flocking to and congregating in a few nations the better. People aren’t built to be packed like sardines.
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