by Dowaesk » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:46 am
by Dowaesk » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:49 am
by Islamic Holy Sites » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:56 am
Dowaesk wrote:The Uyghurs are native to the Xinjiang Province in China. It is thought that there are about 13 million Uyghurs in Xinjiang. The Uyghur Community is also predominantly muslim. Although China does not count them when they count their religious populations.
Since 2015 it has been estimated that over a million Uyghurs have been detained in concentration camps. China often uses attacks done by East Turkestan Independence Movement" as justification for its actions.
Critics of China have often referred to this as genocide.
Heres a link to the wikipedia site.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
Now to my question. Can the treatment towards Uyghurs be justified? And how do you suppose this will go in the future? Will the UN or some other organisation or country intervene? Or will this continue until Uyghur becomes a minority in their own region?
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by Dowaesk » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:59 am
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Dowaesk wrote:The Uyghurs are native to the Xinjiang Province in China. It is thought that there are about 13 million Uyghurs in Xinjiang. The Uyghur Community is also predominantly muslim. Although China does not count them when they count their religious populations.
Since 2015 it has been estimated that over a million Uyghurs have been detained in concentration camps. China often uses attacks done by East Turkestan Independence Movement" as justification for its actions.
Critics of China have often referred to this as genocide.
Heres a link to the wikipedia site.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
Now to my question. Can the treatment towards Uyghurs be justified? And how do you suppose this will go in the future? Will the UN or some other organisation or country intervene? Or will this continue until Uyghur becomes a minority in their own region?
The treatment of the Uyghurs cannot and can never be justified.
by Islamic Holy Sites » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:01 am
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by Monsone » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:16 am
Dowaesk wrote:Can the treatment towards Uyghurs be justified?
And how do you suppose this will go in the future?
Will the UN or some other organisation or country intervene?
Or will this continue until Uyghur becomes a minority in their own region?
by Free Ravensburg » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:21 am
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by Dowaesk » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:22 am
Monsone wrote:Dowaesk wrote:Can the treatment towards Uyghurs be justified?
And how do you suppose this will go in the future?
Will the UN or some other organisation or country intervene?
Or will this continue until Uyghur becomes a minority in their own region?
1. Unfortunately yes, with a good enough excuse, you can justify just about anything. That doesn't make it morally or legally correct, but it has been justified to the standards set out by the perpetrator.
2. In the future? No clue, that is something that's pretty much unknown. If I had to choose, I would say that the current status quo is the norm and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
3. Intervene how? This is an extremely broad statement that can range from sanctions to military action with troops on the ground. Considering military intervention is a no-go, only economic pressure through sanctions is possible, and even that is a pretty useless option as no nation is willing to sanction China like they sanction North Korea, Venezuela, Russia, etc. And China's economic clout is going to keep much of the world silent on the issue anyway.
4. No, no, and no. China is likely to call it a day when they have completely erased Uyghur culture and replaced it with (Han) Chinese culture. Once every last Uyghur is assimilated into Han culture and obedient, subservient, and loyal to the Chinese Government, then the concentration camps will cease to have a primary role (but will continue to exist as places whete dissidents are taken to). China's goal is cultural errasure and replacement by any means necessary, including those that border on genocide.
Uyghurs how follow their traditions will become a tiny minority, but realistically, people counted as ethnically Uyghur probably won't since China is mere decades away from a demographic crisis of epic proportions (but this isn't a thread on demographics so I digress).
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:36 am
by Free Ravensburg » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:44 am
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by Dowaesk » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:47 am
Free Ravensburg wrote:Petition to have the autonomous regions in China (with the exception of Inner Mongolia, which is to be given to Mongolia to reunite the two Mongolias again) released as independent sovereign nations protected by the United Nations from China and Russia (Russia almost ruled Uyghurstan, then Sinkiang/Xinjiang during the interwar period)? All in favor say “aye”
by Monsone » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:52 am
Dowaesk wrote:Demographics are welcome as one of the questions is related to it. Uyghurs becoming a minority.
In my personal opinion. I would say it wont happen. If China were to keep going on with their processes, Uyghur fighters might also step up their game. In such a case, I will be rooting for them as they fight back. Like they should.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:03 pm
by Free Ravensburg » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm
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by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm
by -Ocelot- » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:40 pm
Dowaesk wrote:Now to my question. Can the treatment towards Uyghurs be justified? And how do you suppose this will go in the future? Will the UN or some other organisation or country intervene? Or will this continue until Uyghur becomes a minority in their own region?
by Mannixa Prime » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:44 pm
by Glorious Hong Kong » Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:28 pm
Mannixa Prime wrote:This is text book genocide and it disgusts me that so many will throw the “well ACKTULLY” card around. China is committing genocide pure and simple.
But nothing will be done because people love their cheap goods and it’s easier to scream at white racists on twitter...
I hope the situation improves but I am not optimistic.
by The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:47 pm
by National Capitalist United States » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:29 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Its disgraceful whats happening to those people, but i doubt the world will end up doing anything substantial about it. But every nation that condemns or goes for sanctions is at least trying to do... something i guess.
Also GHK: "Communist fascists"
thats... not how that works.
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:33 pm
National Capitalist United States wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Its disgraceful whats happening to those people, but i doubt the world will end up doing anything substantial about it. But every nation that condemns or goes for sanctions is at least trying to do... something i guess.
Also GHK: "Communist fascists"
thats... not how that works.
Nazbols exist
by Dowaesk » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:41 pm
Mannixa Prime wrote:This is text book genocide and it disgusts me that so many will throw the “well ACKTULLY” card around. China is committing genocide pure and simple.
But nothing will be done because people love their cheap goods and it’s easier to scream at white racists on twitter...
I hope the situation improves but I am not optimistic.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:00 pm
by New haven america » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:07 pm
by Muzehnaya » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:49 pm
New haven america wrote:I do wonder why a lot of Chinese nationalists use the excuse "If you're against the CCP/PRC" then you're just buying into CIA propaganda. (This is a common argument used when talking about the Uyghur Genocide)
Like, ok, dearies. If the CIA wanted to deal with China, they wouldn't use homegrown propaganda. They'd go into China and depose your current dictator and you'd be none the wiser until like, 10-20 years down the line.
Ibn Taymiyyah - Majmu al-Fatawa 4/186 wrote:Insulting, slandering, and being aggressive during a discussion are tricks of those who are weak
and a commodity of those who are bankrupt (in knowledge). Verily, refutations based upon insults
and intimidation, everyone has the capability of doing that.
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