Nakena wrote:Socialism and Nationalism.
That's pretty sus
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by National Capitalist United States » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:28 am
Nakena wrote:Socialism and Nationalism.
by -Ocelot- » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:35 am
The New California Republic wrote:Productivism doesn't constitute an ideology. It's a belief, sure, but it doesn't really meet the threshold of being an ideology as such.
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by Greater Cesnica » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:43 am
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:We just got ourselves two Nazis now.
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by Sanlibutan » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:43 pm
Atheara wrote:Could Republic Nationalism work? That is what i would go to. And i am sort of trying to do that with Atheara.
I guess im a nutcase.
Greater Cesnica wrote:Add an option for Anarchism, or at the bare minimum Libertarianism- Liberalism in my eyes does not go far enough in encompassing individual liberty and freedoms.
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Glorious Hong Kong wrote:We just got ourselves two Nazis now.
That is not what that means.
Im a Democratic Socialist and an Irish Nationalist. Irish Nationalism is a predominantly left-wing strand of nationalist belief based on popular sovereignty and self determination. And in Northern Ireland, where im from, it is characterised with a struggle for civil rights and equality under the law after facing decades of discrimination based on ethnicity, national identity and religion.
by Old Tyrannia » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:00 pm
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by The New California Republic » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:33 pm
Sanlibutan wrote:Arisyan wrote:more or less, it can be defined as "anti-environmentalism", or an opposition to protecting the environment.-Ocelot- wrote:I think it's meant to be the "anti-environmentalism" stance here.
It's correct that the intention is for productivism to be sort of the "opposite" to environmentalism, but under my system of classification they are not necessarily considered mutually exclusive, hence why no "anti" is included in the system. They can be complementary. A system that seeks to combine both environmental preservation or restoration with widespread exploitation of natural resources. Maybe a sort of anthropocentric environmentalism, a system that views the environment as mere resources to be exploited by humanity but at the same time does not want such exploitation to threaten the longevity of human survival. Whether or not such a system would work in practice is not the purpose of the classification system.
I know of people for instance who hold a religious view of productivism, believing that their deity has commanded humans (the deity's "children") to make use of the environment to its maximum extent. At the same time, they would not support clear-cutting of every forest or unrestricted pollution into the air and water bodies. They support the intensive farming of animals but only in a way that would be beneficial to humans — at least in theory.
Again, this system only measures values, not what is necessarily achieved in practice.
by Sanlibutan » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:17 pm
The New California Republic wrote:Sanlibutan wrote:
It's correct that the intention is for productivism to be sort of the "opposite" to environmentalism, but under my system of classification they are not necessarily considered mutually exclusive, hence why no "anti" is included in the system. They can be complementary. A system that seeks to combine both environmental preservation or restoration with widespread exploitation of natural resources. Maybe a sort of anthropocentric environmentalism, a system that views the environment as mere resources to be exploited by humanity but at the same time does not want such exploitation to threaten the longevity of human survival. Whether or not such a system would work in practice is not the purpose of the classification system.
I know of people for instance who hold a religious view of productivism, believing that their deity has commanded humans (the deity's "children") to make use of the environment to its maximum extent. At the same time, they would not support clear-cutting of every forest or unrestricted pollution into the air and water bodies. They support the intensive farming of animals but only in a way that would be beneficial to humans — at least in theory.
Again, this system only measures values, not what is necessarily achieved in practice.
It's still not an ideology though.
by Ancapimania » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:25 pm
by Sanlibutan » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:38 pm
Ancapimania wrote:I am usually minarchist but that counts as liberalism so I'm liberal
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by National Capitalist United States » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:02 pm
Greater Cesnica wrote:Glorious Hong Kong wrote:We just got ourselves two Nazis now.National Capitalist United States wrote:That's pretty sus
Refer to viewtopic.php?p=38445222#p38445222
by Nakena » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:42 pm
National Capitalist United States wrote:
Idk man, she used the trans Strasserist flag in the trans discussion thread, so I feel like she's very sus
by Suriyanakhon » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:46 pm
by National Capitalist United States » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:58 pm
Nakena wrote:National Capitalist United States wrote:Idk man, she used the trans Strasserist flag in the trans discussion thread, so I feel like she's very sus
I am simply the best and you know it. Also it's Stransserism which is not to be confussed with Strasserism.
by Nakena » Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:01 pm
National Capitalist United States wrote:Nakena wrote:
I am simply the best and you know it. Also it's Stransserism which is not to be confussed with Strasserism.
That's why I said "trans strasserist"
by Suriyanakhon » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:13 pm
National Capitalist United States wrote:
Idk man, she used the trans Strasserist flag in the trans discussion thread, so I feel like she's very sus
by Mercatus » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:41 pm
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