Because the Traditional definition of Marriage should not be changed
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by Novokria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:48 am
by Senkaku » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:48 am
Punished UMN wrote:Caraani wrote:It's almost like LGBT people will attack states that think hanging and murdering LGBT people is legitimate. As for the US aid for them, you talk as if we're some sort of spy organisation, when said aid is similar to war-torn countries and aid for organisations meant for women's rights.
Yeah, and I'm saying that's still bad political strategy because such attacks legitimize political repression. States would be less inclined to persecute LGBT rights groups if those groups were supportive of the state and its political objectives, which are in fact not always motivated by simple prejudice.
by Novokria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:48 am
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by SimTropican » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:48 am
San Lumen wrote:SimTropican wrote:
People can call it what they want and try to pretend homosexual partnerships are marriages all they want but for the Church marriage according to Holy, Scripture, Holy Tradition and natural law is between One Man, and One Woman within the church. To us, Holy Marriage is a Sacrament and not merely another relationship status. All partnerships outside of the Church aren't considered marriages since it lacks the Sacrament done by in the Church by a Cleric. The Church doesn't consider any partnerships outside of Christian Orthodoxy as marriages, Straight, Homosexual or even those done by protestant "churches". We do recognize the sacramental validity of the Roman Catholic Church including marriages and allow marriages between Orthodox and Catholics even though we're not in communion with the Roman Church. Outside of the Church marriages don't exist no matter what they call their partnerships and that won't change. We can't stop them from using the term marriages for their partnerships, but on the flip side they can't stop us from seeing marriage only as a Holy Sacrament (One of the seven sacraments in Christian Orthodoxy).
It is also important to separate homosexual attraction from those who put their entire identity in homosexuality. We understand people may have attraction to those of the same sex, unlike those protestant fundamentalists we don't say they "go to hell". We do believe that acting on those attractions puts the immortal soul in danger of condemnation at the last judgement but repentance is for all who seek it. Christian Orthodoxy's as much a lifestyle than it is a faith and living a life of morality and prayer is a key part of it for people of the opposite sex as much as the same sex attracted.
We don't consider it homophobic since it's not an irrational fear (Phobia means an irrational fear) rather our doctrine and dogmas teaches clearly on such topics and we consider it an act of mercy to sometimes say the hard truth. I could put a post to summarize Orthodox theology on the next Christian discussion forum but simply put while we recognize the importance of Faith and works for accepting the gift of salvation we recognize the mysteries of God's plan and how we cannot know if people saved on this side of eternity thus we are charged to pray for those fallen asleep.
Really the definition of marriage is a voluntary choice not always based on homophobia so trying to shut all disagreements down with so called "Hate Speech" won't end well for you. (Islam also has similar views so would you be Islamophobic trying to force your culture on them?) Really if you want a multicultural county less government mandated views and more voluntary participation is the best way to go. Government should keep the peace whenever needed, and act like a referee and ensure things remain fair. Beyond that a multicultural society would exist with a bunch of cultural parallel Polaris morality structures based on voluntary participation. If the left really wants to destroy their own activism than good luck trying to force other cultures like those based on Islam to accept it without being Islamophobic
Its a not a lifestyle as its not a choice.
What are you suggesting that LGBT should live a completely sterile and lonely life never marrying or engaging in relations?
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