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Postby Qvait » Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:31 pm

Partnership for Sovereignty wrote:The Partnership for Sovereignty is proud to announce the admission of The Union of Democratic States as its fourth member.

Such lovely news! Welcome to the club, UDS!
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Postby Quebecshire » Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:40 pm

I would like to congratulate the UDS on their ascension to membership.

Due to our disputes with them primarily over the summer in regards to OOC moderation, I have dispatched Eminople to hopefully enter and start a certain level of dialogue, address concerns, and possibly achieve a level of reconciliation before the LCN application is placed up to vote in the PfS.
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Postby Parxland » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:32 pm

Quebecshire wrote:I would like to congratulate the UDS on their ascension to membership.

Due to our disputes with them primarily over the summer in regards to OOC moderation, I have dispatched Eminople to hopefully enter and start a certain level of dialogue, address concerns, and possibly achieve a level of reconciliation before the LCN application is placed up to vote in the PfS.


Good Luck! 8)
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Postby Partnership for Sovereignty » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:52 pm

The Partnership for Sovereignty is proud to announce the admission of The Free Nations Region as its fifth member.
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Postby Baedan » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:09 pm

Any updates on the admission of the LCN?
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Postby Quebecshire » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:35 am

Baedan wrote:Any updates on the admission of the LCN?

From what I was told a bit ago, we were third in line prior to the UDS's admission, so we should be next. Based on the rate between UDS and FNR, maybe you'll know by the 23rd? I don't know for sure, I was told their process is pretty fluid right now.

My optimism is not present, but we'll see what happens, I suppose.
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Postby Partnership for Sovereignty » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:42 pm

The Partnership for Sovereignty is proud to admit Spiritus as its sixth member.
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Postby Qvait » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:10 pm

Partnership for Sovereignty wrote:The Partnership for Sovereignty is proud to announce the admission of The Free Nations Region as its fifth member.

Partnership for Sovereignty wrote:The Partnership for Sovereignty is proud to admit Spiritus as its sixth member.

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Postby Varanius » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:22 am

Congrats Spiritus!
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:57 pm

It is pleasing to see more regions embracing the Spiritus Potato Agenda.
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Postby Parxland » Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:41 pm

I doubt the commitment of a region, if it's founder is in another group that stood aside and let griefersraiders quorum raid friendly regions.
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Postby Varanius » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:37 pm

Parxland wrote:I doubt the commitment of a region, if it's founder is in another group that stood aside and let griefersraiders quorum raid friendly regions.

I’m sure they care very much about your opinion too.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:40 pm

Varanius wrote:
Parxland wrote:I doubt the commitment of a region, if it's founder is in another group that stood aside and let griefersraiders quorum raid friendly regions.

I’m sure they care very much about your opinion too.

Also what griefers? I'm very confused.
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Postby Quebecshire » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:40 pm

Parxland wrote:I doubt the commitment of a region, if it's founder is in another group that stood aside and let griefersraiders quorum raid friendly regions.

I don't know what remote credibility you have to challenge Spiritus's commitments to really anything, or any region's commitments to anything, for that matter.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:51 pm

Parxland wrote:I doubt the commitment of a region, if it's founder is in another group that stood aside and let griefersraiders quorum raid friendly regions.

What are you even on about lmao
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Postby Feirmont » Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:01 am

Partnership for Sovereignty wrote:The Partnership for Sovereignty is proud to admit Spiritus as its sixth member.


Thank you for having us :)

Parxland wrote:I doubt the commitment of a region, if it's founder is in another group that stood aside and let griefersraiders quorum raid friendly regions.


The uh...executive government of Spiritus has been known to be a sleeper puppet of Tim's, and it turns out we're the same person masquarading as two different aliases ;)

In all seriousness tho, we're ready to commit to this, and we're excited to be a part of this.
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Postby Varanius » Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:05 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Varanius wrote:I’m sure they care very much about your opinion too.

Also what griefers? I'm very confused.

I’m assuming he means TNP, but the list of supposedly secret evil raiding organizations gets longer and longer by the second....
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:45 am

Varanius wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Also what griefers? I'm very confused.

I’m assuming he means TNP, but the list of supposedly secret evil raiding organizations gets longer and longer by the second....

It's very odd. The only regions we've ever "griefed" have been fascist ones... and surely Parx wouldn't be throwing such labels around in defence of fascist regions... right?
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Postby Parxland » Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:55 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
Parxland wrote:I doubt the commitment of a region, if it's founder is in another group that stood aside and let griefersraiders quorum raid friendly regions.

I don't know what remote credibility you have to challenge Spiritus's commitments to really anything, or any region's commitments to anything, for that matter.



Praeceps wrote:Unfortunately, a group of individuals from Libcord featuring members of a variety of militaries defended against these attempted quorum raids. During the update, an NPA Officer reached out to the Update Commander responsible (who is a member of the South Pacific Special Forces) and attempted to get Libcord to call off their operation. The Update Commander responded with apathy to the Confederation being fascist and demonstrated a disdain for diplomacy generally. Subsequently, The North Pacific attempted to determine which members of what organizations were involved in the operation. We aimed to establish what the policies were in regards to defending against an anti-fascist quorum raid. The Grey Wardens was one such organization. The Grey Wardens promptly informed us of their stance on these operations and reminded their individual involved accordingly. The North Pacific thanks The Grey Wardens for their stance and certainly harbors them no ill-will for their accidental involvement.

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^This^

If TNP makes TGW back down the next time they go griefing quorum raiding regions like the renegade islands alliance but PfS acts against TNP, then who is Tim-Opolis going to align with? TGW or PfS? I think it's a conflict of interest. Has the people in charge of PfS already talked about what would happen in this scenario?




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Varanius wrote:I’m assuming he means TNP, but the list of supposedly secret evil raiding organizations gets longer and longer by the second....

It's very odd. The only regions we've ever "griefed" have been fascist ones... and surely Parx wouldn't be throwing such labels around in defence of fascist regions... right?


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The regions on ^This List^ are fascist? Since you raided/griefed them, then you must think they're fascists. That means you think The Renegade Islands Alliance is fascist. Somebody should tell the Grey Wardens they have an embassy with a fascist region!

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In all seriousness, I use different methods than you when dealing with fash. Including but not limited to reporting their discord servers. I strongly dislike fash and the alt-right in general.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:25 pm

Hi Parxland. I see you've decided to go extra hard this weekend on the "guy in GP who yells about things and comes off looking very out of touch" trope.

You clearly don't know what griefing means, so let me refer you back to my signature that you so needlessly screenshotted to point out that I do indeed run the largest defender organization in the game. Check the SC Part this time. Security Council Resolution #74 straight up defines griefing as "the act of damaging or destroying a region and possibly re-founding it to use it as a trophy". What the NPA did was by no definition griefing, and your points will look a lot less unhinged if you step down from such needlessly innacurate and sensationalist rhetoric. Tipping a Delegate does not damage or destroy a region.

Now that we've moved past that, let me reassure you that players a lot higher up the totem pole than you are have already discussed, resolved, and moved on from this issue that you are so obsessively harping on about. The fact that you personally weren't informed about the way things resolved isn't my problem, and more points to your lack of involvement/awareness within GP affairs than any grand conspiracy such as the one you are alleging. We're certainly not going to be abandoning longtime allies such as the RIA, and are confident that the new increased lines of communications between all of our respective militaries will make for less issues such as this past one when it comes to anti-fascist operations.

Furthermore, I think you both fail to understand what the PFS is and what my role in Spiritus is. Frankly, your entire post reeks of misinformed and misconceived notions about this entire situation. The PFS does not make some grand binding statement preventing all of the members of all of its member regions from embracing its stance on quorum raiding. Hell, with all the fuss you want to kick up about the NPA, I personally am more likely to go quorum raiding than the NPA is. I view it as an acceptable tactic during certain situations, and am pretty open about the fact that I stand in a more grey area of defending. There are plenty of citizens of PfS member regions who do not share all of the Partnership's views. Moving beyond that, my role in Spiritus is Founder. That's it. Outside of serving in an advisory and administrative capacity, I am incredibly hands off on the affairs of Spiritus when it comes to its day-to-day affairs. There is literally no conflict of interest here.

At the end of the day, the issue with the NPA is one that's highly unlikely to replicate. I'm really excited to see what the Partnership for Sovereignty can do to erode longtime Invader influence on the SC, and even more look forward to continued cooperation with the military arms of the PfS member regions. It's awesome to have such a strengthening and unified Defender Faction, and I'm excited to see where it can go!

You're tilting at windmills, buddy.
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Postby Quebecshire » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:40 pm

Parxland wrote:SNIP

Nothing against Tim, but considering his self-described role in Spiritus is "like an absentee father who checks in from time to time," I don't think even if Tim were half as bad as you're attempting to claim, that he would be impeding Spiritus's commitment to anything in the PfS.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:13 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:You're tilting at windmills, buddy.

Just fyi, Parxland, usually when someone in gameplay says this to you it means you're actually poking a hornets' nest and they don't want stung. Just a PSA.

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