[WITHDRAWN] Liberate The Embassy

[HumanSanity]

Starting the thread so this can be discussed. To clarify, the proposal is by Sorianora

The Security Council,

Recognising the incredible foreign relations created by The Embassy by all its embassies

Praising The Embassy for being a connecting region, creating friendships and alliances between regions

Applauding The embassy’s stand against the growing evil of fascism

Disappointed that this raid will halt the further writing of the regional newspaper, The Cable

Distraught by Lily, Lone Wolfs United, The Black Hawks, Europeia, and Karma’s raid on this once flourishing region

Hoping the members of the World Assembly will see fit to liberate this region from the control of raiders

Hereby Liberates The Embassy

[HumanSanity]

I will post my arguments separately from the original post

Why is The Embassy a region worthy of saving?
The Embassy is a historic embassy collector region, and its RMB has in the past served as a collective forum for regions of the world to mingle and discuss. It was once home to one of the largest collections of embassies and its RMB serves as a historical record of their interactions. The Embassy also once produced publications such as The Cable (January edition here) and the TourAdvisor service. All of the records of these things are accessible on the public and searchable RMB now, however a refound would take that history and force it to be archived privately (at best) and destroyed permanently (at worst). In this way, the Embassy and its RMB is a valuable historical and cultural record which the Security Council has an interest in preserving.

Furthermore, there is at least one remaining native (A Goblinoid Merchant) and one long time native who recently CTEd and may return (The Ambassadors Reception). Any region with people who are invested in its project and long-term potential deserves to be saved from raider attacks out of deference to the autonomy of players to dictate their own path in the game.

Some will argue that The Embassy is "annoying" with their embassy requests. How annoying a region is does not dictate how worthy it is of saving. The Security Council should stand in support of the right of players to play the game in whatever way makes them happiest, except where that play inhibits the safety of other players or the autonomy of other regions. Labeling a region "annoying" ignores the value it creates in favor of each player's arbitrary framework of what makes the region worthwhile. The only solution to raids on any region being justified becuase the region was "annoying" is a firm stand that only fascist or raider regions can be destroyed. Further, if "annoying" is the framework we use, raiders just sent out 3000 unnecessary regional happenings messages by attempting to destroy The Embassy's network.

Why is a Security Council Liberation of The Embassy necessary generally?
Unfortunately, a SC Liberation of The Embassy will not pass before the embassies currently in the region have closed. This is unfortunate but a liberation mechanically will not help.

However, eventually raiders will achieve sufficient influence within the region to change the current password (thereby making defender efforts to get the password for a liberation next to impossible) and may begin to eject the native residents. Due to changes in the rate of piling, it is as of yet unclear when that will be. However, having a Security Council liberation in the queue makes it so unless the job is done by the time the resolution is passed, it will be impossible to ever do.

Furthermore, even if raiders can succeed before the resolution passes, it increases the odds a defender would be able to intercept the refound and return the region to native residents. Refounds by any organization run the risk of the refound being sniped, which is normally checked by doing the refound at a random point in time with only seconds of notice. However, by compressing the timeline, defenders can make certain to be available to have a fair shot at snagging the refound and returning it to the native residents.

If the resolution does pass before raiders have the influence necessary to clear out the region, sustaining the occupation will be operationally infeasible, at which point the occupation will be drawn down, defenders able to retake the region, and the SC liberation can be repealed.

The intent of raiders to defeat this liberation is further demonstrated by the raider Delegate Spike Wilbury's decision to "approve" the proposal in queue ahead of the Liberation, in an effort to further delay the ability to make the proposal reach a vote by 4 days, giving more time to accumulate influence and potentially execute a refound.

Have natives consented to a Security Council liberation?
Not yet, however A Goblinoid Merchant was telegrammed at approximately 12:01 PM EST on 2/14 to discuss the possibility of an SC liberation. They responded to me at 1:54 PM and we are discussing options, including the benefits and drawbacks of an SC Liberation. If they decline the Liberation, I will campaign against its passage.

Wouldn't this turn the region into a battleground?
Yes, but that presumes a repeal would never pass. If a Liberation were to pass, after the region is resecured for the natives, the Liberation could be repealed and a password reinstalled.

Why is this necessary if non-griefer militaries are assisting in the operation?
The presence of Europeia in the operation will be explained by some as a reason why region destruction is not possible in this instance. However, this ignores the past complicity of the Europeian Republican Navy in region destruction, such as in the raid on Liberty Nations Alliance when ERN forces assisted in securing the region for raiders, left the region, and then the region was destroyed by others with no accountability for these actions from Europeia.

Furthermore, due to unique factors in this raid - e.g. the supposed "annoying"ness of The Embassy and the way it is maligned by the mainstream NS Gameplay community - it is possible an exception would be granted to an organization's past anti-destruction policies.

Finally, raiders will certainly claim they have no intent to destroy the region for other reasons. These claims should not be trusted. The region's occupiers have obvious self interest in claiming a liberation is unnecessary, stalling it until the last moment before it would be too late to prevent a refound.

[Drew Durrnil]

Starting the thread so this can be discussed

The Security Council,

Recognising the incredible foreign relations created by The Embassy by all its embassies

Praising The Embassy for being a connecting region, creating friendships and alliances between regions

Applauding The embassy’s stand against the growing evil of fascism

Disappointed that this raid will halt the further writing of the regional newspaper, The Cable

Distraught by Lily, Lone Wolfs United, The Black Hawks, Europeia, and Karma’s raid on this once flourishing region

Hoping the members of the World Assembly will see fit to liberate this region from the control of raiders

Hereby Liberates The Embassy

1. I was going to write this, but as the delegate of 10KI, you seem the most fit to.
2. This is kinda short
3. At the penultimate clause, add "and boost connections with other regions throughout the Multiverse"

[HumanSanity]

Starting the thread so this can be discussed

The Security Council,

Recognising the incredible foreign relations created by The Embassy by all its embassies

Praising The Embassy for being a connecting region, creating friendships and alliances between regions

Applauding The embassy’s stand against the growing evil of fascism

Disappointed that this raid will halt the further writing of the regional newspaper, The Cable

Distraught by Lily, Lone Wolfs United, The Black Hawks, Europeia, and Karma’s raid on this once flourishing region

Hoping the members of the World Assembly will see fit to liberate this region from the control of raiders

Hereby Liberates The Embassy

1. I was going to write this, but as the delegate of 10KI, you seem the most fit to.
2. This is kinda short
3. At the penultimate clause, add "and boost connections with other regions throughout the Multiverse"

This draft is not mine, it's someone else's. I will update the OP to demonstrate this more effectively. I would consider writing one but time is of the essence, and risking more votes happening before this could make it to vote is not an option given I was unavailable to do so immediately after major update last night.

If players are worried the SC record would demonstrate effectively the entire history of the occupation and proposal, I will volunteer that I would be willing to write the inevitable Repeal and ensure it was up to high quality and recorded the relevant history.

[Miku the Based]

Seconding the preservation an autonomy, and sovereignty of region Embassy with its original founder. (I'm not apart of the security council or know if I'm allied to post under this forum section).
I don't understand this whole thing about fascism here. From what I saw my embassy was rejected by the region The embassy by some anarcho-transsexual nation, not some fascist.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Normally I’m neutral in R/D, but The Embassy and regions like it are a pain in the arse. It’s a poor draft and I’m quite happy to see The Embassy burn.

[Varanius]

It’ll be fun to watch this fail!

[Frenchy II]

I am in strong support of this resolution and look forward to it passing!!!

No seriously, who?

[Baedan]

Frankly I'm terrified at the sort of antics Lone Wolfs United could get up to absent this liberation

[Atheris]

Again, not in the WA (although I'm thinking about joining for the SC), but full support. Raiding is a scourge on NS and it's disgusting that this happens to any region, especially influential ones like The Embassy.

Edit: Fuck it, I'm in the WA now.

[Sorianora]

It’ll be fun to watch this fail!

lmao same

[HumanSanity]

Normally I’m neutral in R/D, but The Embassy and regions like it are a pain in the arse.

Why does your perception of if something is a pain in the arse dictate whether or not that region is deserving of sovereignty? The region, as annoying as you may find it, was a platform for smaller regions to communicate and develop their own community. Let players play the game the way they want to play it, even if it's odd to you.

It’s a poor draft

I sincerely wish there was time to draft an alternate proposal but there is not. This, and other things, can be remarked upon in order to create a complete historical record in the inevitable Repeal phase.

It’ll be fun to watch this fail!

Your contributions are substantive and lovely as always.

I am in strong support of this resolution and look forward to it passing!!!

No seriously, who?

Why does that matter? Your shitpost quality today is lacking Frenchy.

Frankly I'm terrified at the sort of antics Lone Wolfs United could get up to absent this liberation

See above.

Again, not in the WA (although I'm thinking about joining for the SC), but full support. Raiding is a scourge on NS.

Thanks!

[Sorianora]

well, hello there I suppose

[Noahs Second Country]

I don't really like embassy collecting regions but The Embassy, as far as I'm aware, is the most notable of them and is a pretty nice gathering place.

It's unfortunate that this has happened, support.

[Outer Sparta]

Did the author even bothered to draft it first?

[Frenchy II]

I am in strong support of this resolution and look forward to it passing!!!

No seriously, who?

Why does that matter? Your shitpost quality today is lacking Frenchy.

No, who the hell were these native(s)?

[President Drumpf]

Did the author even bothered to draft it first?

No. Things like “Lone Wolfs United” would’ve been immediately pointed out. This was a poorly written proposal thrown together on short term, which 10000 Islands now wishes to push through for whatever reason. Anyone believing this changes anything is wrong; the embassies will still be closed, the delegate will not automatically be removed.

[Praeceps]

Frankly I'm terrified at the sort of antics Lone Wolfs United could get up to absent this liberation

Looks like a defender region. Surely they can't be that bad.

[Outer Sparta]

Did the author even bothered to draft it first?

No. Things like “Lone Wolfs United” would’ve been immediately pointed out. This was a poorly written proposal thrown together on short term, which 10000 Islands now wishes to push through for whatever reason. Anyone believing this changes anything is wrong; the embassies will still be closed, the delegate will not automatically be removed.

Oh I just noticed Lone Wolfs United. Geez the author can't even get your region right.

[HumanSanity]

Why does that matter? Your shitpost quality today is lacking Frenchy.

No, who the hell were these native(s)?

Have natives consented to a Security Council liberation?
Not yet, however A Goblinoid Merchant was telegrammed at approximately 12:01 PM EST on 2/14 to discuss the possibility of an SC liberation. They responded to me at 1:54 PM and we are discussing options, including the benefits and drawbacks of an SC Liberation. If they decline the Liberation, I will campaign against its passage.

There is a native, and a decently active one who responded to the raid promptly by putting WA on their resident nation and responded to a telegram within 2 hours. Can we stop pretending natives don't exist when it's inconvenient for us?

Did the author even bothered to draft it first?

No. Things like “Lone Wolfs United” would’ve been immediately pointed out. This was a poorly written proposal thrown together on short term, which 10000 Islands now wishes to push through for whatever reason. Anyone believing this changes anything is wrong; the embassies will still be closed, the delegate will not automatically be removed.

The reason I wish to push it through was explained extensively. Normally you at least read my textwalls

I'm not denying the embassies will be closed. The Liberation exists solely to ensure that is the only thing that happens.

The delegate will not be automatically removed, however eventually the occupation will become too resource intensive to maintain and raiders will move along.

[Baedan]

Frankly I'm terrified at the sort of antics Lone Wolfs United could get up to absent this liberation

Looks like a defender region. Surely they can't be that bad.

I have reasons to suspect that the WFE is actually deceptive and that the region is in fact controlled by the communist raiding force of the North Pacific - everyone be careful

also isn't that a violation of y'alls flag code or smn

[Outer Sparta]

No, who the hell were these native(s)?

Have natives consented to a Security Council liberation?
Not yet, however A Goblinoid Merchant was telegrammed at approximately 12:01 PM EST on 2/14 to discuss the possibility of an SC liberation. They responded to me at 1:54 PM and we are discussing options, including the benefits and drawbacks of an SC Liberation. If they decline the Liberation, I will campaign against its passage.

There is a native, and a decently active one who responded to the raid promptly by putting WA on their resident nation and responded to a telegram within 2 hours. Can we stop pretending natives don't exist when it's inconvenient for us?

No. Things like “Lone Wolfs United” would’ve been immediately pointed out. This was a poorly written proposal thrown together on short term, which 10000 Islands now wishes to push through for whatever reason. Anyone believing this changes anything is wrong; the embassies will still be closed, the delegate will not automatically be removed.

The reason I wish to push it through was explained extensively. Normally you at least read my textwalls

I'm not denying the embassies will be closed. The Liberation exists solely to ensure that is the only thing that happens.

The delegate will not be automatically removed, however eventually the occupation will become too resource intensive to maintain and raiders will move along.

More people would be bothered to support if the proposal was adequately drafted. But as things stand, the author has written a poor proposal with silly errors like "Lone Wolfs United" when drafting it on the forums first would have community critique before any submission attempts.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Did the author even bothered to draft it first?

Of course not. It was one of about four that were submitted in the last 12 - 24 hours. Sheer opportunism.

[Varanius]

It’ll be fun to watch this fail!

Your contributions are substantive and lovely as always.

Happy to help. Really though, I see no reason whatsoever to even attempt to seriously “contribute” to this absolute joke of a proposal. And it’s a proposal that no one is willing to give a second glance other than for giggles at things like Lone Wolfs United except for apparently yourself, as you attempt to seriously push this ridiculous for the sovereignty of the whole 2 nations in one of the most irritating embassy collectors there is.

[Treciene]

Definitely. The embassy has been a place of culture, and we need its raid to end.