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The American & Pacific Rim Crisis [MT/MT+, Semi-Closed, OOC]

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Bengal and Assam
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Postby Bengal and Assam » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:50 am

Piikala wrote:How will Fuso be interacting in this conflict(i.e. what side will he be on and what kind of support will he be giving)?

I bet that he'll end up on the British side...
I don't know what side I'll end up in myself...
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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:54 am

Bengal and Assam wrote:
Piikala wrote:How will Fuso be interacting in this conflict(i.e. what side will he be on and what kind of support will he be giving)?

I bet that he'll end up on the British side...
I don't know what side I'll end up in myself...


You'll end up on mine once I get that coup going, and it's inevitable.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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Bengal and Assam
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Postby Bengal and Assam » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:20 am

Langenia wrote:
Bengal and Assam wrote:I bet that he'll end up on the British side...
I don't know what side I'll end up in myself...


You'll end up on mine once I get that coup going, and it's inevitable.

With parts of the military leadership making noise against the government as of now, alarm bells would be ringing 24/7 within the elected govt regarding a possible coup.
The govt would move loyal troops to the interior of the country, and fight out a war of attriction with Junta forces, which would control the coastline and the cities.

While the Junta would be handing out contracts to their buddies to rename everything with "La Plata" in it to "Argentina". The government leading from the interior would cut out deals with the Chileans and the American.
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Piikala
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Postby Piikala » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:21 am

Bengal and Assam wrote:
Piikala wrote:How will Fuso be interacting in this conflict(i.e. what side will he be on and what kind of support will he be giving)?

I bet that he'll end up on the British side...
I don't know what side I'll end up in myself...

I think Piikala could invade him, though, throw enough soldiers at the problem and check the weather to make sure there's no Kamikaze(divine wind aka typhoons) of any sort and invade from all sides.

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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:45 am

Bengal and Assam wrote:
Langenia wrote:
You'll end up on mine once I get that coup going, and it's inevitable.

With parts of the military leadership making noise against the government as of now, alarm bells would be ringing 24/7 within the elected govt regarding a possible coup.
The govt would move loyal troops to the interior of the country, and fight out a war of attriction with Junta forces, which would control the coastline and the cities.

While the Junta would be handing out contracts to their buddies to rename everything with "La Plata" in it to "Argentina". The government leading from the interior would cut out deals with the Chileans and the American.


So Langenia, Piikala, and anti-Kirchner La Platan troops on one side, and UAC, Fuso, and pro-Kirchner La Platan troops on the other! Yay! I love instigating civil wars in my regional neighbors!
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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Fuso-
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Postby Fuso- » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:51 am

Piikala wrote:How will Fuso be interacting in this conflict(i.e. what side will he be on and what kind of support will he be giving)?

The Anglo-Fuso Treaty of Eternal Friendship and Alliance (1720) says hello.
Piikala wrote:
Bengal and Assam wrote:I bet that he'll end up on the British side...
I don't know what side I'll end up in myself...

I think Piikala could invade him, though, throw enough soldiers at the problem and check the weather to make sure there's no Kamikaze(divine wind aka typhoons) of any sort and invade from all sides.

Problem 1: I know your every move.
Problem 2: You touch Nanyouto the primary SSBN base of the IFN and there will be nuclear hellfire.
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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:53 am

Fuso- wrote:
Piikala wrote:How will Fuso be interacting in this conflict(i.e. what side will he be on and what kind of support will he be giving)?

The Anglo-Fuso Treaty of Eternal Friendship and Alliance (1720) says hello.
Piikala wrote:I think Piikala could invade him, though, throw enough soldiers at the problem and check the weather to make sure there's no Kamikaze(divine wind aka typhoons) of any sort and invade from all sides.

Problem 1: I know your every move.
Problem 2: You touch Nanyouto the primary SSBN base of the IFN and there will be nuclear hellfire.


Just a reminder that if you wish to use nukes you're gonna have to tell me and Union of British North America.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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Fuso-
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Postby Fuso- » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:54 am

Langenia wrote:
Fuso- wrote:The Anglo-Fuso Treaty of Eternal Friendship and Alliance (1720) says hello.

Problem 1: I know your every move.
Problem 2: You touch Nanyouto the primary SSBN base of the IFN and there will be nuclear hellfire.


Just a reminder that if you wish to use nukes you're gonna have to tell me and Union of British North America.

UBNA is already aware. Otoh it's a principle since invading somebody's primary SSBN base leads naturally to certain assumptions that leads to nuclear exchange.

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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:54 am

Fuso- wrote:
Langenia wrote:
Just a reminder that if you wish to use nukes you're gonna have to tell me and Union of British North America.

UBNA is already aware. Otoh it's a principle since invading somebody's primary SSBN base leads naturally to certain assumptions that leads to nuclear exchange.


Yeah, makes sense. I would act the same way.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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Bengal and Assam
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Postby Bengal and Assam » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:06 pm

Piikala wrote:
Bengal and Assam wrote:I bet that he'll end up on the British side...
I don't know what side I'll end up in myself...

I think Piikala could invade him, though, throw enough soldiers at the problem and check the weather to make sure there's no Kamikaze(divine wind aka typhoons) of any sort and invade from all sides.

Singing Serbians lied... God is no Serb, he's Japanese
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Piikala
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Postby Piikala » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:23 pm

Fuso- wrote:Problem 1: I know your every move.
Problem 2: You touch Nanyouto the primary SSBN base of the IFN and there will be nuclear hellfire.

Piikala also has its own satellites and GPS, plus a few dozen SSBN bases scattered in the Pacific and the Indian Ocean plus biological weapons throughout its empire. With its minor SSBN bases being in Port Moseby, Phuket, Bora Bora, Yangon, Sanya, Pyongyang, Palana, Mindanao, Guam, and Isla Isabela. With Piikalas major SSBN bases on the Yuki Hana(Main Piikalan home island it's around the size of Honshu but the same latitude as Hokiado) and Shanghai. So an invasion of each other wouldn't be good for the world. So let us not invade each other unless we must.

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The Union of British North America
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Postby The Union of British North America » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:48 pm

I will have a post up tonight.

It appears that our naval battles will look interesting.
An alt-America that had a grand bargain struck with London in the 1760s and remained under the British Crown (Turtledove's "The Two Georges"), mixed with some of Sobel's "For Want of a Nail" and a lot of the anthology "Columbia and Britannia," the sci-fi NZ novel "Anno Domini 2000 or Woman's Destiny", and cameos of other alternate histories. “The Rock of the Britannic Commonwealth,” an alliance of Britannic and former colonies as partner-nations in personal union and/or in association.

Tech level: MT+
NS stats: mostly policies
IC/RP name: North American Union (NAU).
IC/RP main supranational IGO: United Britannic Commonwealth of Nations.
NSverse organization member/agreement signatory: CAPINTERN, IFTC, ICDN, ECO, IBA, Amistad.

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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:52 pm

The Union of British North America wrote:I will have a post up tonight.

It appears that our naval battles will look interesting.


Oh yeah. I honestly see both of us will have to improvise, as we both have the potential to destroy each other's air power in the Caribbean at the same time.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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Piikala
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Postby Piikala » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:12 pm

I am thinking I'll post tomorrow detailing Piikala's plan in the RP and maybe potential diplomatic contact with Langenia if he's interested?

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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:47 pm

Piikala wrote:I am thinking I'll post tomorrow detailing Piikala's plan in the RP and maybe potential diplomatic contact with Langenia if he's interested?


Sure, I'm interested.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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The Union of British North America
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Postby The Union of British North America » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:37 pm

Posted.
An alt-America that had a grand bargain struck with London in the 1760s and remained under the British Crown (Turtledove's "The Two Georges"), mixed with some of Sobel's "For Want of a Nail" and a lot of the anthology "Columbia and Britannia," the sci-fi NZ novel "Anno Domini 2000 or Woman's Destiny", and cameos of other alternate histories. “The Rock of the Britannic Commonwealth,” an alliance of Britannic and former colonies as partner-nations in personal union and/or in association.

Tech level: MT+
NS stats: mostly policies
IC/RP name: North American Union (NAU).
IC/RP main supranational IGO: United Britannic Commonwealth of Nations.
NSverse organization member/agreement signatory: CAPINTERN, IFTC, ICDN, ECO, IBA, Amistad.

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Piikala
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Postby Piikala » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:56 pm

Langenia wrote:
Sure, I'm interested.


I am thinking maybe Piikala could send a diplomatic mission to Langenia to discuss a potential trade deal or maybe an arms deal of sorts? Along with military alliance?

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Romextly
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Postby Romextly » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:22 am

The Republic of Chile that has recently seen a wave of nationalism, not unlike La Plata had in the 70's for the Falklands war. The current President is letting the free market on the way, but with increasing protests over the privatization of the nation and the gap between the wealthy elite and the average man has not been felt since 1990's.

Currently, the government favors the NAU due to the possible aid that is expected to help Chile to be able to survive more years of the current rule. The nation has been leaning to NAU due to the support that propped up the government during the cold wars, but now the populace, now angry at most actions taken by the government are questioning this. A few are believing Langenia to be a better fit as allies due to the proximity and the threat of La Plate due to the Tierra de Fuego incident.

One person in general, Army General Ricardo Martínez Menanteau, as been leaning more to some politicians who voted against President Sebastián Piñera. There is talk of a possible coup, made more so by the promises of Menanteau of gains in Tierra de Fuego and support Langenia. With the increasing vye for power, it will depend on which nation can promise Chile the most.

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Postby Langenia » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:32 am

Romextly wrote:The Republic of Chile that has recently seen a wave of nationalism, not unlike La Plata had in the 70's for the Falklands war. The current President is letting the free market on the way, but with increasing protests over the privatization of the nation and the gap between the wealthy elite and the average man has not been felt since 1990's.

Currently, the government favors the NAU due to the possible aid that is expected to help Chile to be able to survive more years of the current rule. The nation has been leaning to NAU due to the support that propped up the government during the cold wars, but now the populace, now angry at most actions taken by the government are questioning this. A few are believing Langenia to be a better fit as allies due to the proximity and the threat of La Plate due to the Tierra de Fuego incident.

One person in general, Army General Ricardo Martínez Menanteau, as been leaning more to some politicians who voted against President Sebastián Piñera. There is talk of a possible coup, made more so by the promises of Menanteau of gains in Tierra de Fuego and support Langenia. With the increasing vye for power, it will depend on which nation can promise Chile the most.


Well La Plata, it seems like I'm gonna be orchestrating not one but two coups!
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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Postby Bengal and Assam » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:40 am

Romextly wrote:The Republic of Chile that has recently seen a wave of nationalism, not unlike La Plata had in the 70's for the Falklands war. The current President is letting the free market on the way, but with increasing protests over the privatization of the nation and the gap between the wealthy elite and the average man has not been felt since 1990's.

Currently, the government favors the NAU due to the possible aid that is expected to help Chile to be able to survive more years of the current rule. The nation has been leaning to NAU due to the support that propped up the government during the cold wars, but now the populace, now angry at most actions taken by the government are questioning this. A few are believing Langenia to be a better fit as allies due to the proximity and the threat of La Plate due to the Tierra de Fuego incident.

One person in general, Army General Ricardo Martínez Menanteau, as been leaning more to some politicians who voted against President Sebastián Piñera. There is talk of a possible coup, made more so by the promises of Menanteau of gains in Tierra de Fuego and support Langenia. With the increasing vye for power, it will depend on which nation can promise Chile the most.

Fvck me...
Aside from the Tierra de Fuego issue, we have similar interests...
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Story Thread: Rise of the North, a Canada ISOT

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Bengal and Assam
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Postby Bengal and Assam » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:46 am

I think I should write an in depth post about a spy spying on the Langenian Embassy. Similar to how UBNA wrote an indepth post...

Langenia, can I use a Langenian spy to kill him? Apparently he would get the news of the impending coup from a source inside the embassy. He'll die in an alley before he could reach safety...
A country with a mixed Bengali, British and Oriental population and culture. NSStats not Used...
Led By Susan Itai... Mostly MT, with some elements of FT.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!
NEWS: BBSOne
Story Thread: Rise of the North, a Canada ISOT

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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:59 am

Bengal and Assam wrote:I think I should write an in depth post about a spy spying on the Langenian Embassy. Similar to how UBNA wrote an indepth post...

Langenia, can I use a Langenian spy to kill him? Apparently he would get the news of the impending coup from a source inside the embassy. He'll die in an alley before he could reach safety...


Sure, go ahead!
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:01 am

Piikala wrote:
Langenia wrote:
Sure, I'm interested.


I am thinking maybe Piikala could send a diplomatic mission to Langenia to discuss a potential trade deal or maybe an arms deal of sorts? Along with military alliance?


That is an idea that I would like. A military alliance would cement our mutual rivalry to NAU. So I am the one supplying you with arms?
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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Piikala
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Postby Piikala » Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:31 am

Langenia wrote:
Piikala wrote:
Maybe Piikala could send a diplomatic mission to Langenia to discuss a potential trade deal or maybe an arms deal of sorts? Along with military alliance?


That is an idea that I would like. A military alliance would cement our mutual rivalry to NAU. So I am the one supplying you with arms?

I was thinking Piikala could since Piikala has massive amounts of resources and industrial capacity thanks to its control of china. So Piikala can hammer out large amounts of supplies and ship them across the pacific.

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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:40 am

Piikala wrote:
Langenia wrote:
That is an idea that I would like. A military alliance would cement our mutual rivalry to NAU. So I am the one supplying you with arms?

I was thinking Piikala could since Piikala has massive amounts of resources and industrial capacity thanks to its control of china. So Piikala can hammer out large amounts of supplies and ship them across the pacific.


What supplies are you referring to?
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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