That and I am to old, plus I do not know my countries system.
No idea why, but I really resent myself for it.
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by Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:40 pm
Rosmana wrote:Genivaria wrote:I imagine it being similar to how the military does it now.
You pick 5 jobs you'd like to do in order of preference and that gets weighed against what jobs need filling.
I could NEVER be in the military, ever, gunfire gives me panic attacks, I am 100% useless.
They need to draft somebody else.
by Rosmana » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:41 pm
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Rosmana wrote:I could NEVER be in the military, ever, gunfire gives me panic attacks, I am 100% useless.
They need to draft somebody else.
Common misconception, not everyone is on the frontlines, in fact, not everyone even has a combat role. There’s plenty of positions as engineers, researchers, scientists, etc.
by Nilokeras » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:54 pm
by Rosmana » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:55 pm
Genivaria wrote:Rosmana wrote:That and I am to old, plus I do not know my countries system.
No idea why, but I really resent myself for it.
I know the feeling, I heavily regret not enlisting out of high school, tried just a couple years ago but now ADHD is considered a disqualifier, that and I've gotten overweight.
by Major-Tom » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:09 pm
by Auzkhia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:47 pm
Saint Yosx wrote:Auzkhia wrote:You should have a choice. I would never want to be in the military.
Would one choose specific jobs or would be assigned on? Like, I wouldn't want to lose friends or loved ones and have to move away from them.
I say specific jobs, although everyone should take a test to get an idea on what their good at but not forced into a specific one.
Genivaria wrote:Auzkhia wrote:You should have a choice. I would never want to be in the military.
Would one choose specific jobs or would be assigned on? Like, I wouldn't want to lose friends or loved ones and have to move away from them.
I imagine it being similar to how the military does it now.
You pick 5 jobs you'd like to do in order of preference and that gets weighed against what jobs need filling.
by Intaglio » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:55 pm
by Intaglio » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:02 pm
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I support conscription, if for no other reason than to straighten out kids and teach strict discipline and obedience
by Saiwania » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:29 pm
by Adamede » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:04 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Compulsory military service is a product of fascist ideology. For example, Greece's extension of compulsory military service for 12 months. No one should be forced to die or kill for the homeland, because there are conscientious people in the world who reject weapons and borders.(Image)
by Stellar Colonies » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:06 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Compulsory military service is a product of fascist ideology. For example, Greece's extension of compulsory military service for 12 months. No one should be forced to die or kill for the homeland, because there are conscientious people in the world who reject weapons and borders.(Image)
Adamede wrote:Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Compulsory military service is a product of fascist ideology. For example, Greece's extension of compulsory military service for 12 months. No one should be forced to die or kill for the homeland, because there are conscientious people in the world who reject weapons and borders.(Image)
Uh, no. Compulsory military service goes all the way back to at least antiquity. Fascism only came about after the First World War.
Also why focus on Greece specially?
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I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Adamede » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:09 pm
Stellar Colonies wrote:Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Compulsory military service is a product of fascist ideology. For example, Greece's extension of compulsory military service for 12 months. No one should be forced to die or kill for the homeland, because there are conscientious people in the world who reject weapons and borders.(Image)
It isn't fascist, but I do agree that it is usually immoral for countries like Greece or Turkey to conscript their people for mandatory military service.Adamede wrote:Uh, no. Compulsory military service goes all the way back to at least antiquity. Fascism only came about after the First World War.
Also why focus on Greece specially?
I think he/she is a Turkish nationalist.
by Stellar Colonies » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:09 pm
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by The Marlborough » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:10 pm
Saint Yosx wrote:Adamede wrote:The draft was ended for a reason in the US, and that’s because the government used it to send tens of thousands of American soldiers to their deaths in an extremely unpopular war.
Anyway, the draft isn’t really gone. Selective service is still a thing in the US, which means that if the draft is needed for another war they’ll just bring it back and start drafting people.
I do think that the Vietnam draft is not the best example, as it forced people into combat, I think allowing people to have at least some autonomy when it comes to how they serve would avoid unesscary death and grief.
by The Marlborough » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:14 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Compulsory military service is a product of fascist ideology. For example, Greece's extension of compulsory military service for 12 months. No one should be forced to die or kill for the homeland, because there are conscientious people in the world who reject weapons and borders.(Image)
by Wizlandia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:15 pm
...allow people from all walks of life to learn more about this nation and to also help contribute to society besides taxes. It would also teach respect and help build up values like honesty, strength and courage.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:32 pm
I don't know, Greece was the first country that came to my mind. I think it was the first country that came to my mind because the Greek government increased its military personnel in the Aegean Sea to scare the Turks. I'm not particularly focused on anyone, I'm sorry if I bothered you, I'm just saying.Adamede wrote:Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Compulsory military service is a product of fascist ideology. For example, Greece's extension of compulsory military service for 12 months. No one should be forced to die or kill for the homeland, because there are conscientious people in the world who reject weapons and borders.(Image)
Uh, no. Compulsory military service goes all the way back to at least antiquity. Fascism only came about after the First World War.
Also why focus on Greece especially, since your beloved Turkey also has/has compulsory military service as well, and unlike Greece has actually used that military to invade other countries.
Why do you think it's not a fascist idea ? I don't want to be a soldier, but I have to live in a government that wants to make me a soldier. The European Union starts intellectually after YugoslaviaStellar Colonies wrote:Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Compulsory military service is a product of fascist ideology. For example, Greece's extension of compulsory military service for 12 months. No one should be forced to die or kill for the homeland, because there are conscientious people in the world who reject weapons and borders.(Image)
It isn't fascist, but I do agree that it is usually immoral for countries like Greece or Turkey to conscript their people for mandatory military service.
by Postauthoritarian America » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:38 pm
by Cordel One » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:41 pm
Postauthoritarian America wrote:Mandatory national service would not be bad. Mandatory national service with loopholes for the rich and powerful, which is the way it would be implemented under capitalism, is just as awful as everything else under capitalism.
by The Marlborough » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:46 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I don't know, Greece was the first country that came to my mind. I think it was the first country that came to my mind because the Greek government increased its military personnel in the Aegean Sea to scare the Turks. I'm not particularly focused on anyone, I'm sorry if I bothered you, I'm just saying.Adamede wrote:Uh, no. Compulsory military service goes all the way back to at least antiquity. Fascism only came about after the First World War.
Also why focus on Greece especially, since your beloved Turkey also has/has compulsory military service as well, and unlike Greece has actually used that military to invade other countries.Why do you think it's not a fascist idea ? I don't want to be a soldier, but I have to live in a government that wants to make me a soldier. The European Union starts intellectually after Yugoslavia
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