The Rise of China

[Adamede]

Honestly what I'm absolutely dumbfounded about this whole "China are evil warmongers planning to invade the world" that us in Australia get pushed onto us by everyone, who has The CCP invaded since the civil war? Tibet (read Michael Parenti's 'Friendly Feudalism', you'll understand how the CCP were liberators to Tibet), intervened in the Korean war because they felt threatened by the amount of forces rolling back a neighbour who, let's be real, probably would have continued the whole way into Manchuria knowing Americans, Vietnam after the Americans dropped agent orange all over the country, and border skirmishes against the Indians every couple of years. All of these partake around Chinese borders, already more justified than the Americans
Compare that to the Americans who are always at war with someone else across the globe for some bull reason (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (both times) and Cambodia come to mind)

Then there is also the sheer amount of military coups launched by the CIA against innocent nations wanting self determination, such as Bolivia recently, as well as nation like Argentina, Brazil, Indonesia, the Congo, Iran, and the regime changes anyways like here in Australia with Gough Whitlam in the 70's and (potentially) Kevin Rudd in 2010. How many nations have been regime changed by China? I'm guessing if they did any regime changes, they're all across their local area, not a nation that's across the world

Just my 2 cents on China

This is my thinking as well.

The only reason that China hasn’t been more militarily active beyond its immediate neighbors is because it doesn’t have the capabilities to do so.

Give it those capabilities and they will use the stick to get what they want, just like the US, the UK, the Soviets, and every other super power through our history.

[The Marlborough]

Why? Huge parts of Europe suffer from similar problems as the US or worse. Even countries like Germany and France have crumbling infrastructure problems. If southern Italy was independent it would be a developing country.

That doesn't stop EU countries (outside of Eastern Europe, anyways) from having a higher HDI and comparable or even better infrastructure than the US.

Don't believe me? Here is the HDI, and here is the infrastructure quality rating.

Only 7 out of the 27 members of the EU have an HDI higher than the US, some of which don't have particularly strong gaps. The others are lower and some of which are significantly lower and hence will drag the EU's standing down.

Also your other list only furthers my point. On that list only Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands and Austria have better infrastructure ratings better than the United States. Which would be 4/27 members of the EU and so once again, its position would drop.

Further you can't really go "outside of Eastern Europe" because Eastern Europe and Southern Europe make up huge chunks of the EU's membership and even a lot of Western and Northern European EU countries aren't that much more developed than the US (and in some cases not even more developed).

[Picairn]

Honestly what I'm absolutely dumbfounded about this whole "China are evil warmongers planning to invade the world" that us in Australia get pushed onto us by everyone, who has The CCP invaded since the civil war? Tibet (read Michael Parenti's 'Friendly Feudalism', you'll understand how the CCP were liberators to Tibet), intervened in the Korean war because they felt threatened by the amount of forces rolling back a neighbour who, let's be real, probably would have continued the whole way into Manchuria knowing Americans, Vietnam after the Americans dropped agent orange all over the country, and border skirmishes against the Indians every couple of years. All of these partake around Chinese borders, already more justified than the Americans
Compare that to the Americans who are always at war with someone else across the globe for some bull reason (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (both times) and Cambodia come to mind)

Then there is also the sheer amount of military coups launched by the CIA against innocent nations wanting self determination, such as Bolivia recently, as well as nation like Argentina, Brazil, Indonesia, the Congo, Iran, and the regime changes anyways like here in Australia with Gough Whitlam in the 70's and (potentially) Kevin Rudd in 2010. How many nations have been regime changed by China? I'm guessing if they did any regime changes, they're all across their local area, not a nation that's across the world

Just my 2 cents on China

How the hell is China's invasion of Vietnam in 1979 and border skirmishes with India justified more than US invasions? Sounds like Chinese imperialist apologia to me.

[The Marlborough]

Honestly what I'm absolutely dumbfounded about this whole "China are evil warmongers planning to invade the world" that us in Australia get pushed onto us by everyone, who has The CCP invaded since the civil war? Tibet (read Michael Parenti's 'Friendly Feudalism', you'll understand how the CCP were liberators to Tibet), intervened in the Korean war because they felt threatened by the amount of forces rolling back a neighbour who, let's be real, probably would have continued the whole way into Manchuria knowing Americans, Vietnam after the Americans dropped agent orange all over the country, and border skirmishes against the Indians every couple of years. All of these partake around Chinese borders, already more justified than the Americans
Compare that to the Americans who are always at war with someone else across the globe for some bull reason (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (both times) and Cambodia come to mind)

Then there is also the sheer amount of military coups launched by the CIA against innocent nations wanting self determination, such as Bolivia recently, as well as nation like Argentina, Brazil, Indonesia, the Congo, Iran, and the regime changes anyways like here in Australia with Gough Whitlam in the 70's and (potentially) Kevin Rudd in 2010. How many nations have been regime changed by China? I'm guessing if they did any regime changes, they're all across their local area, not a nation that's across the world

Just my 2 cents on China

How the hell is China's invasion of Vietnam in 1979 and border skirmishes with India justified more than US invasions? Sounds like Chinese imperialist apologia to me.

Because it is. Same goes with the Tibet invasion in which a lot of the CCP's claims are spurious and no different than the justifications used to invade numerous African kingdoms during the New Imperialism era which many left-wingers denounce. Tibet was annexed because it was pushing for independence and improving its military capabilities. It took almost a decade for the CCP to even begin trying to restructure Tibetan society.

Further, that's kind of the thing. A lot of anti-imperialists aren't actually anti-imperialist they are just anti-the other guys doing imperialism. Which would be fine if they were honest about it.

[Adamede]

Honestly what I'm absolutely dumbfounded about this whole "China are evil warmongers planning to invade the world" that us in Australia get pushed onto us by everyone, who has The CCP invaded since the civil war? Tibet (read Michael Parenti's 'Friendly Feudalism', you'll understand how the CCP were liberators to Tibet), intervened in the Korean war because they felt threatened by the amount of forces rolling back a neighbour who, let's be real, probably would have continued the whole way into Manchuria knowing Americans, Vietnam after the Americans dropped agent orange all over the country, and border skirmishes against the Indians every couple of years. All of these partake around Chinese borders, already more justified than the Americans
Compare that to the Americans who are always at war with someone else across the globe for some bull reason (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (both times) and Cambodia come to mind)

Then there is also the sheer amount of military coups launched by the CIA against innocent nations wanting self determination, such as Bolivia recently, as well as nation like Argentina, Brazil, Indonesia, the Congo, Iran, and the regime changes anyways like here in Australia with Gough Whitlam in the 70's and (potentially) Kevin Rudd in 2010. How many nations have been regime changed by China? I'm guessing if they did any regime changes, they're all across their local area, not a nation that's across the world

Just my 2 cents on China

How the hell is China's invasion of Vietnam in 1979 and border skirmishes with India justified more than US invasions? Sounds like Chinese imperialist apologia to me.

Becuase it’s only imperialism when the west does it or something along those lines.

[Adamede]

Why? Huge parts of Europe suffer from similar problems as the US or worse. Even countries like Germany and France have crumbling infrastructure problems. If southern Italy was independent it would be a developing country.

That doesn't stop EU countries (outside of Eastern Europe, anyways) from having a higher HDI and comparable or even better infrastructure than the US.

Don't believe me? Here is the HDI, and here is the infrastructure quality rating.

And the US’s standards jump if you leave out all the poor parts too! How about that?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

You are right that China is nominally a nation state. However in practice it never functioned like and does not function like one. The sense of unity you mentioned does not actually exist at all as Chinese nationalism is merely a conformist device as opposed to genuine love among Chinese people. The main use case of Chinese nationalism is people reporting on each other for being unpatriotic for personal gain.

...in 1911? When it was used as a tool to bolster democracy and overthrow the oppressive Qing Dynasty?

Come back when you've read up a little more on history, particularly the Xinhai Revolution.

Yup. I have. The Xinhai Revolution was not a popular revolt comparable to French Revolution.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

That doesn't stop EU countries (outside of Eastern Europe, anyways) from having a higher HDI and comparable or even better infrastructure than the US.

Don't believe me? Here is the HDI, and here is the infrastructure quality rating.

And the US’s standards jump if you leave out all the poor parts too! How about that?

Well, I was born in the entity that should be abolished and have been to Singapore. Here are my comments: American suburban and rural infrastructure is good. It is urban infrastructure that is awful. The cause is very obvious: the white-black conflict. When cities were white they were taken care of. After they became blacker since black people are much poorer than white ones on average and that taxpayers are whiter than average public goods also moved out. This is really just like how Latin America works.

[Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire]

That doesn't stop EU countries (outside of Eastern Europe, anyways) from having a higher HDI and comparable or even better infrastructure than the US.

Don't believe me? Here is the HDI, and here is the infrastructure quality rating.

Only 7 out of the 27 members of the EU have an HDI higher than the US, some of which don't have particularly strong gaps. The others are lower and some of which are significantly lower and hence will drag the EU's standing down.

Also your other list only furthers my point. On that list only Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands and Austria have better infrastructure ratings better than the United States. Which would be 4/27 members of the EU and so once again, its position would drop.

Further you can't really go "outside of Eastern Europe" because Eastern Europe and Southern Europe make up huge chunks of the EU's membership and even a lot of Western and Northern European EU countries aren't that much more developed than the US (and in some cases not even more developed).

You're miscounting. I counted 9 EU members having a higher HDI than the US, and 5 EU members having better infrastructure.

A lot of EU members in both lists also aren't too far behind. Of course we're getting off topic here, since PPP is a measure of absolute purchasing power and so saying that it measures development is entirely irrelevant to the conversation (and plus it doesn't really measure development).

Either way, China's economy is the largest in the world when adjusted for its ability to buy stuff.

That doesn't stop EU countries (outside of Eastern Europe, anyways) from having a higher HDI and comparable or even better infrastructure than the US.

Don't believe me? Here is the HDI, and here is the infrastructure quality rating.

And the US’s standards jump if you leave out all the poor parts too! How about that?

Only proves that the US and EU are comparable.

...in 1911? When it was used as a tool to bolster democracy and overthrow the oppressive Qing Dynasty?

Come back when you've read up a little more on history, particularly the Xinhai Revolution.

Yup. I have. The Xinhai Revolution was not a popular revolt comparable to French Revolution.

Revolutions don't happen without popular support. The Qing Dynasty had proven to be unpopular thanks to being the world's punching bag for a century, which is why the Qing were inevitably going to be ousted from power.

And the US’s standards jump if you leave out all the poor parts too! How about that?

Well, I was born in the entity that should be abolished and have been to Singapore. Here are my comments: American suburban and rural infrastructure is good. It is urban infrastructure that is awful. The cause is very obvious: white-black conflict.

In my experience it's the other way around. Urban infrastructure is actually pretty good, but rural infrastructure pretty much sucks. I agree that suburban trumps both though, urban areas are a bit more compact and look like they get slightly less maintenance while rural areas usually have roads that look like they haven't been paved in decades lol

[Yuzu China]

And the US’s standards jump if you leave out all the poor parts too! How about that?

Well, I was born in the entity that should be abolished and have been to Singapore. Here are my comments: American suburban and rural infrastructure is good. It is urban infrastructure that is awful. The cause is very obvious: the white-black conflict. When cities were white they were taken care of. After they became blacker since black people are much poorer than white ones on average and that taxpayers are whiter than average public goods also moved out. This is really just like how Latin America works.

What entity that should be abolished? The US is ok enough.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Only 7 out of the 27 members of the EU have an HDI higher than the US, some of which don't have particularly strong gaps. The others are lower and some of which are significantly lower and hence will drag the EU's standing down.

Also your other list only furthers my point. On that list only Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands and Austria have better infrastructure ratings better than the United States. Which would be 4/27 members of the EU and so once again, its position would drop.

Further you can't really go "outside of Eastern Europe" because Eastern Europe and Southern Europe make up huge chunks of the EU's membership and even a lot of Western and Northern European EU countries aren't that much more developed than the US (and in some cases not even more developed).

You're miscounting. I counted 9 EU members having a higher HDI than the US, and 5 EU members having better infrastructure.

A lot of EU members in both lists also aren't too far behind. Of course we're getting off topic here, since PPP is a measure of absolute purchasing power and so saying that it measures development is entirely irrelevant to the conversation (and plus it doesn't really measure development).

Either way, China's economy is the largest in the world when adjusted for its ability to buy stuff.

And the US’s standards jump if you leave out all the poor parts too! How about that?

Only proves that the US and EU are comparable.

Yup. I have. The Xinhai Revolution was not a popular revolt comparable to French Revolution.

Revolutions don't happen without popular support. The Qing Dynasty had proven to be unpopular thanks to being the world's punching bag for a century, which is why the Qing were inevitably going to be ousted from power.

Well, I was born in the entity that should be abolished and have been to Singapore. Here are my comments: American suburban and rural infrastructure is good. It is urban infrastructure that is awful. The cause is very obvious: white-black conflict.

In my experience it's the other way around. Urban infrastructure is actually pretty good, but rural infrastructure pretty much sucks. I agree that suburban trumps both though, urban areas are a bit more compact and look like they get slightly less maintenance while rural areas usually have roads that look like they haven't been paved in decades lol

Your Sinostatist reasoning is indeed quite funny. China lost about 5 wars and it was supposedly the world’s punch bag for a century. I wonder what exactly are places that have actually become colonies such as the Philippines and Somalia. Countries such as Poland outright ceased to exist so what exactly were them?

Sinostatism indeed does wonders. The status of China and the status of the Chinese are so different that it is insane.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Well, I was born in the entity that should be abolished and have been to Singapore. Here are my comments: American suburban and rural infrastructure is good. It is urban infrastructure that is awful. The cause is very obvious: the white-black conflict. When cities were white they were taken care of. After they became blacker since black people are much poorer than white ones on average and that taxpayers are whiter than average public goods also moved out. This is really just like how Latin America works.

What entity that should be abolished? The US is ok enough.

China of course.

[SKM]

I’d just like to interject a few words here.
China evil. Democracy good. Democracy only good system of government.

[The Marlborough]

Only 7 out of the 27 members of the EU have an HDI higher than the US, some of which don't have particularly strong gaps. The others are lower and some of which are significantly lower and hence will drag the EU's standing down.

Also your other list only furthers my point. On that list only Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands and Austria have better infrastructure ratings better than the United States. Which would be 4/27 members of the EU and so once again, its position would drop.

Further you can't really go "outside of Eastern Europe" because Eastern Europe and Southern Europe make up huge chunks of the EU's membership and even a lot of Western and Northern European EU countries aren't that much more developed than the US (and in some cases not even more developed).

You're miscounting. I counted 9 EU members having a higher HDI than the US, and 5 EU members having better infrastructure.

A lot of EU members in both lists also aren't too far behind. Of course we're getting off topic here, since PPP is a measure of absolute purchasing power and so saying that it measures development is entirely irrelevant to the conversation (and plus it doesn't really measure development).

HDI:
- Ireland
- Germany
- Sweden
- Netherlands
- Denmark
- Finland
- Belgium
That is 7. Iceland, the UK, Norway and Switzerland are not part of the European Union.

Infrastructure:
- Austria
- Germany
- Sweden
- Netherlands
That's 4.

Quite a number of them are quite behind. The European Union as a whole isn't more developed than the United States and just focusing on non-EE states, it's still not that much more developed than the United States. People just aren't given images of all the decaying places in Europe because then Europe would have to admit to itself it's not super superior to everyone else.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

Quite a number of them are quite behind. The European Union as a whole isn't more developed than the United States and just focusing on non-EE states, it's still not that much more developed than the United States. People just aren't given images of all the decaying places in Europe because then Europe would have to admit to itself it's not super superior to everyone else.

Compare states in the United States to countries in the European Union and they start looking pretty indistinguishable to each other in terms of the standard of living, yeah, and that's probably the more appropriate comparison, given the relative size of the two entities, than pitching the entire US against a handful of wealthy North Sea countries would be.

[The Marlborough]

The Chinese state has allowed China to exist as a continuous civilization for thousands of years. Also I don't know where you're getting this idea that China prevented merchants from plying their trade considering how widespread Chinese merchants were throughout the Pacific regions for ages and was the economic cog for much of the region. Things such as the Haijin and The Great Frontier Shift are anomalies in Chinese history which generally was pretty accepting of maritime trade. Further, it proved to be really unpopular as evidenced by the rampant smuggling and corruption that swept through both the Ming and Qing as a result of these policies.

[The Marlborough]

Quite a number of them are quite behind. The European Union as a whole isn't more developed than the United States and just focusing on non-EE states, it's still not that much more developed than the United States. People just aren't given images of all the decaying places in Europe because then Europe would have to admit to itself it's not super superior to everyone else.

Compare states in the United States to countries in the European Union and they start looking pretty indistinguishable to each other in terms of the standard of living, yeah, and that's probably the more appropriate comparison, given the relative size of the two entities, than pitching the entire US against a handful of wealthy North Sea countries would be.

If I wanted to compare individual states in the US, I'd start comparing them to the individual sub-national entities that exist in various European countries because that would be the actual appropriate comparison. EU member states within the EU are not even remotely close to American states. Europe isn't as advanced as popular imagination would have people believe. Fun fact: in Germany the trains outside of major cities are often late.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

If I wanted to compare individual states in the US, I'd start comparing them to the individual sub-national entities that exist in various European countries because that would be the actual appropriate comparison. EU member states within the EU are not even remotely close to American states. Europe isn't as advanced as popular imagination would have people believe. Fun fact: in Germany the trains outside of major cities are often late.

Population-wise, US states seem to be sort of between European countries (which are a bit bigger) and the internal divisions of European countries (which are a bit smaller).

To me it makes sense to compare "development" between regions of roughly similar populations, because larger polities tend to be more heterogenous. A lot of European countries have their primary city as a first-level administrative regions, which pretty much carves out the richest and most densely populated part of each country from their surrounding countrysides. People talk a lot about the US coast being mostly cities, but even places like the State of New York includes a big chunk of surrounding countryside.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

The Chinese state has allowed China to exist as a continuous civilization for thousands of years. Also I don't know where you're getting this idea that China prevented merchants from plying their trade considering how widespread Chinese merchants were throughout the Pacific regions for ages and was the economic cog for much of the region. Things such as the Haijin and The Great Frontier Shift are anomalies in Chinese history which generally was pretty accepting of maritime trade. Further, it proved to be really unpopular as evidenced by the rampant smuggling and corruption that swept through both the Ming and Qing as a result of these policies.

Lol. That’s indeed an interesting and absurd claim. Yes, technically we can consider China a civilization but how good is it? It is a highly awful one due to the centralized state. Not everything that exists and persists is necessarily awesome.

It is true that ethnic Chinese merchants dominate trade in places such as Thailand..however these places are all outside China. China often prevents heathy trade from normally taking place with its insane policies.

The permanent abolition of China is an absolute necessity.

[Engadine Mcdonalds 1997]

Honestly what I'm absolutely dumbfounded about this whole "China are evil warmongers planning to invade the world" that us in Australia get pushed onto us by everyone, who has The CCP invaded since the civil war? Tibet (read Michael Parenti's 'Friendly Feudalism', you'll understand how the CCP were liberators to Tibet), intervened in the Korean war because they felt threatened by the amount of forces rolling back a neighbour who, let's be real, probably would have continued the whole way into Manchuria knowing Americans, Vietnam after the Americans dropped agent orange all over the country, and border skirmishes against the Indians every couple of years. All of these partake around Chinese borders, already more justified than the Americans
Compare that to the Americans who are always at war with someone else across the globe for some bull reason (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (both times) and Cambodia come to mind)

Then there is also the sheer amount of military coups launched by the CIA against innocent nations wanting self determination, such as Bolivia recently, as well as nation like Argentina, Brazil, Indonesia, the Congo, Iran, and the regime changes anyways like here in Australia with Gough Whitlam in the 70's and (potentially) Kevin Rudd in 2010. How many nations have been regime changed by China? I'm guessing if they did any regime changes, they're all across their local area, not a nation that's across the world

Just my 2 cents on China

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I'm more so arguing how the argument that "China are warmongers" is completely null and void. Oh no, China is expanding into... the South China sea, where the Americans already have their fingers in the pie, just like everywhere else. Do I want China to be my overlords? No, I just want to dispel some of the bull around it, and point out that our current overlord, Uncle Sam, is far more destructive but we just let it slide because of... reasons

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I'm more so arguing how the argument that "China are warmongers" is completely null and void. Oh no, China is expanding into... the South China sea, where the Americans already have their fingers in the pie, just like everywhere else. Do I want China to be my overlords? No, I just want to dispel some of the bull around it, and point out that our current overlord, Uncle Sam, is far more destructive but we just let it slide because of... reasons

This doesn’t matter. China mostly causes harm through non-militaristic means. As long as slavery exists somewhere free people everywhere is threatened with enslavement. As long as China exists social, economic and political rights everywhere is threatened.

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

I'm more so arguing how the argument that "China are warmongers" is completely null and void. Oh no, China is expanding into... the South China sea, where the Americans already have their fingers in the pie, just like everywhere else. Do I want China to be my overlords? No, I just want to dispel some of the bull around it, and point out that our current overlord, Uncle Sam, is far more destructive but we just let it slide because of... reasons

This doesn’t matter. China mostly causes harm through non-militaristic means. As long as slavery exists somewhere free people everywhere is threatened with enslavement. As long as China exists social, economic and political rights everywhere is threatened.

Swap China for Israel and re-read.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

It is true that ethnic Chinese merchants dominate trade in places such as Thailand..however these places are all outside China. China often prevents heathy trade from normally taking place with its insane policies.

There was once a time when Continental merchants speaking Low German dominated Scandinavian trade, to the point where the garrisons in Scandinavian cities swore oaths to be loyal to Low Germans and Low German merchants massacred Scandinavian natives in the streets of Stockholm and Bergen.

The German people have not been destroyed, and yet the German domination of Scandinavian trade has. Funny, that. Turns out it's not necessary to destroy a nation to change its nature, after all.

Culture is malleable.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

This doesn’t matter. China mostly causes harm through non-militaristic means. As long as slavery exists somewhere free people everywhere is threatened with enslavement. As long as China exists social, economic and political rights everywhere is threatened.

Swap China for Israel and re-read.

That’s of course nonsense since Israel is the opposite of China. The effects of Israel on the world is also the opposite of the effects of China on the world. Israel is a pretty normal developed ethnostate that is more humane than its peers. China on the other hand is an inverted empire. A typical empire conquerors with an ethnic core and transfers resources from conquered provinces to the ruling tribe. China on the other hand, while not run by ethnic minorities, profits from oppressing its core.

[Engadine Mcdonalds 1997]

Honestly what I'm absolutely dumbfounded about this whole "China are evil warmongers planning to invade the world" that us in Australia get pushed onto us by everyone, who has The CCP invaded since the civil war? Tibet (read Michael Parenti's 'Friendly Feudalism', you'll understand how the CCP were liberators to Tibet), intervened in the Korean war because they felt threatened by the amount of forces rolling back a neighbour who, let's be real, probably would have continued the whole way into Manchuria knowing Americans, Vietnam after the Americans dropped agent orange all over the country, and border skirmishes against the Indians every couple of years. All of these partake around Chinese borders, already more justified than the Americans
Compare that to the Americans who are always at war with someone else across the globe for some bull reason (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (both times) and Cambodia come to mind)

Then there is also the sheer amount of military coups launched by the CIA against innocent nations wanting self determination, such as Bolivia recently, as well as nation like Argentina, Brazil, Indonesia, the Congo, Iran, and the regime changes anyways like here in Australia with Gough Whitlam in the 70's and (potentially) Kevin Rudd in 2010. How many nations have been regime changed by China? I'm guessing if they did any regime changes, they're all across their local area, not a nation that's across the world

Just my 2 cents on China

How the hell is China's invasion of Vietnam in 1979 and border skirmishes with India justified more than US invasions? Sounds like Chinese imperialist apologia to me.

Remind me of the countries that America borders? Canada and... Mexico, right? If china were to start invading Mexico in a Vietnam style war, then I'd say "Hey, that's not right! What did the Mexicans ever do to you, apart from deny your "hegemony"?". If America were to invade Mexico, my response would be "Hey, that's not right!". Why? Because that's practically America's backyard.

Was the invasion of Vietnam by China completely justified? No, but certainly more justified than "Hurr Durr, donimo thiory gud, gommmunisms bad"