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by Pyatzvezkie » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:02 am
by Pyatzvezkie » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:03 am
Pyatzvezkie wrote:This reminds me of a time where I was carrying a bunch of items in my arms and kicked the store door opened to get out, and I almost hit someone else
TDLR: We need to make teleportation technology so opening doors becomes a thing of the past or... Just install automatic doors on all stores I guess
by Uan aa Boa » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:11 am
Imperium Latine wrote:Uan aa Boa wrote:Do you think that in the same way a female athlete or bodybuilder should protect a skinny guy who never works out and is less physically strong? Should she open doors for him and give up her seat on the bus? Offer to walk him home in case he gets mugged?
In general... Learn how to read.
by Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:43 am
Uan aa Boa wrote:Imperium Latine wrote:In general women are less physically strong than men, as such men should protect them (as we should children and the elderly) when needed...
Do you think that in the same way a female athlete or bodybuilder should protect a skinny guy who never works out and is less physically strong? Should she open doors for him and give up her seat on the bus? Offer to walk him home in case he gets mugged?
by Adamede » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:54 am
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Chivalry here means men protecting women in a way that involves treating them differently to other men.
My opinionI think chivalry is good because it follows natural law and Islamic law, because it benefits both men and women and because women have a harder time in some areas (due to a range of factors ranging from patriarchy to biology)
by Sundiata » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:56 am
Adamede wrote:Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Chivalry here means men protecting women in a way that involves treating them differently to other men.
My opinionI think chivalry is good because it follows natural law and Islamic law, because it benefits both men and women and because women have a harder time in some areas (due to a range of factors ranging from patriarchy to biology)
That’s pretty dumb.
Just be nice to people regardless of their sex goddamit.
by Risottia » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:58 am
The Free Joy State wrote:Risottia wrote:
Female serfs, though, aren't even people. They're fair game for the chivalrous nobility.
This alleged right, though, was only documented -- in period -- by Gerald of Aurillac who was angling for Sainthood (and claimed a miracle happened to save the serf).
While so-called chivalrous knights were a marauding bunch in general (and can't be said to have been very courteous), the female serfs are much disputed by history.
by Postauthoritarian America » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:59 am
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by Major-Tom » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:12 am
by The Free Joy State » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:30 am
The Free Joy State wrote:Sundiata wrote:Well, OP raised a point about natural law. It raises the question, "How should men and women treat one another in that context?" That's interesting stuff.
Though, you do "usually" consider this, don't you? You didn't just consider this due to the OP, you were discussing this yesterday, even saying "yes" when asked -- if opening the door for a man (not a dainty, helpless ikkle woman -- my words and heavy sarcasm) -- if you'd open the door and just push out in front. You consider this a lot, it seems.
So, it appears you think it's okay to treat men rather shabbily.
That doesn't seem very courteous, or respectful.
Which is why chivalry is a load of shit. It discourages respect for both sexes (treating one as pathetic and the other as worthless).
by Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:42 am
Good lord, the bloodshed in the name of "honor"...
by Sundiata » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:43 am
Don't. I was just getting to the point. I'll respond to the rest later.The Free Joy State wrote:I find it more than slightly disingenuous an act to cut my full reply down to that one line.
by The Free Joy State » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:46 am
by Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:50 am
The Holy Therns wrote:Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:I’m trying to be nice to you, sweetie.
...Am I on Mad Men? Is this an episode of Mad Men?Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:He’s agreeing with you.
He's agreeing with what part? My disapproval of his views or my clarification that his response was completely off the mark?
by Sundiata » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:54 am
The Free Joy State wrote:Sundiata wrote:Well, OP raised a point about natural law. It raises the question, "How should men and women treat one another in that context?" That's interesting stuff.
Though, you do "usually" consider this, don't you? You didn't just consider this due to the OP, you were discussing this yesterday, even saying "yes" when asked -- if opening the door for a man (not a dainty, helpless ikkle woman -- my words and heavy sarcasm) -- if you'd open the door and just push out in front. You consider this a lot, it seems.
So, it appears you think it's okay to treat men rather shabbily.
That doesn't seem very courteous, or respectful.
Which is why chivalry is a load of shit. It discourages respect for both sexes (treating one as pathetic and the other as worthless).
by The Free Joy State » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:57 am
by Sundiata » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:00 pm
The Free Joy State wrote:Sundiata wrote:It's better that I reply concisely, less time.
If you have no wish to engage with the points I make, you don't need to reply to my posts. Ignore them, if debating my arguments will take up a lot of time or be something you don't enjoy.
But to crop all bar the easy little opening lines that ignore the meat of the post (the more difficult moral queries), as I note you tend to) is a disingenuous action, and I am within my right to call out such actions.
by Pyatzvezkie » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:03 pm
Postauthoritarian America wrote:The other day I gave a ride to a woman who showed up at my door claiming her car had broken down, her ex-husband was abusing her daughter and she needed to get to a bus stop. Turns out she was homeless and on the lam from the cops who were trying to serve her with a restraining order to stay away from a neighbor.
Did I treat her differently from the way I would have treated a large Black man pounding on my door with the same kind of story? Most likely yes.
Chivalry imo means caring for the weak and disadvantaged; to the extent anyone, regardless of gender, is disadvantaged they should be treated with special care.
So all you chivalrous people out there, how do you feel about treating racial minorities differently because they have been disadvantaged, i.e. affirmative action? Or are you only chivalrous toward people you want to assert a power relationship over to your own advantage? hmmm?
by Senkaku » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:05 pm
by Thepeopl » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:07 pm
Champagne Socialist Sharifistan wrote:Chivalry here means men protecting women in a way that involves treating them differently to other men.
My opinionI think chivalry is good because it follows natural law and Islamic law, because it benefits both men and women and because women have a harder time in some areas (due to a range of factors ranging from patriarchy to biology)
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