The Holy Therns wrote:He's agreeing with what part? My disapproval of his views or my clarification that his response was completely off the mark?
No, he said you were right.
You must just be misunderstanding his views.
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by Socialist States of Ludistan » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:37 am
The Holy Therns wrote:He's agreeing with what part? My disapproval of his views or my clarification that his response was completely off the mark?
by Northern Socialist Council Republics » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:39 am
Sky Reavers wrote:So it's not concept of chivalry, that is good or bad. It's about individual interpertations of this concept.
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by Uan aa Boa » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:24 am
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:34 am
by Insaanistan » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:44 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:We should be teaching women how to be strong and defend themselves. Not making 50% of the population reliant on the other 50% and burdening the other 50% with having to basically slave away every five minutes.
I pity the fool who raises his daughters so poorly that they rely on men for everything they could take for themselves.
by Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:54 am
by Insaanistan » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:58 am
by The Greater Gothic Empire » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:37 am
Insaanistan wrote:When someone says strong independent woman, one of the things I immediately think about is when Ūmar (ra) was giving a khutbah (sermon) in the mosque, and a woman got up and began yelling and pointing her finger at him telling him “You’re wrong, you idiot! Muhammad said this and that.”
She yelled and waved her finger...
at ŪMAR
by Nuroblav » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:38 am
by Geneviev » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:42 am
by Kernen » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:56 am
by Page » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:56 am
Geneviev wrote:I don't think it's a bad thing, really, but it can be a little unnecessary and some people are offended by it.
by Socialist States of Ludistan » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:57 am
Esternial wrote:He is misunderstanding hers, let's make that clear.
by Page » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:01 am
Kernen wrote:As noted elsewhere, any warrior code seems distinctly unnecessary in a society without warriors.
The warrior caste or role has been supplanted culturally by soldiers, police, and the criminal and civil justice systems. All of which operate professionally and as regulated by fairly utilitarian societal needs and not moral motives of honor or glory. In the west, at least, there's no place for warriors. Ergo, no need for a warrior code.
by Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:02 am
Insaanistan wrote:When someone says strong independent woman, one of the things I immediately think about is when Ūmar (ra) was giving a khutbah (sermon) in the mosque, and a woman got up and began yelling and pointing her finger at him telling him “You’re wrong, you idiot! Muhammad said this and that.”
She yelled and waved her finger...
at ŪMAR
by Kernen » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:21 am
Page wrote:Kernen wrote:As noted elsewhere, any warrior code seems distinctly unnecessary in a society without warriors.
The warrior caste or role has been supplanted culturally by soldiers, police, and the criminal and civil justice systems. All of which operate professionally and as regulated by fairly utilitarian societal needs and not moral motives of honor or glory. In the west, at least, there's no place for warriors. Ergo, no need for a warrior code.
I mean in theory you're totally right, in practice cops' conduct is often indistinguishable from that of gangbangers, this whole "you gonna respect me or get your head blown off" attitude. This isn't universal and it depends the country, I would imagine most cops in Iceland don't act like this but in America too many do.
So perhaps some kind of warrior code might still be useful.
by Imperium Latine » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:35 am
Uan aa Boa wrote:Coming to this thread I was thinking of chivalrous attitudes as a bit daft and antiquated, probably frustrating to be on the receiving end of, but I wouldn't have described them as sinister. Then I noticed that 3 of the posters who jumped to their defence have a definite eagle and iron cross motif going on with their flags. And I'm aware of Godwin's law and all that, but still...
by Uan aa Boa » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:50 am
Imperium Latine wrote:In general women are less physically strong than men, as such men should protect them (as we should children and the elderly) when needed...
by Champagne Socialist Sharifistan » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:50 am
Uan aa Boa wrote:Coming to this thread I was thinking of chivalrous attitudes as a bit daft and antiquated, probably frustrating to be on the receiving end of, but I wouldn't have described them as sinister. Then I noticed that 3 of the posters who jumped to their defence have a definite eagle and iron cross motif going on with their flags. And I'm aware of Godwin's law and all that, but still...
by Baloo Kingdom » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:54 am
by Imperium Latine » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:02 am
Uan aa Boa wrote:Imperium Latine wrote:In general women are less physically strong than men, as such men should protect them (as we should children and the elderly) when needed...
Do you think that in the same way a female athlete or bodybuilder should protect a skinny guy who never works out and is less physically strong? Should she open doors for him and give up her seat on the bus? Offer to walk him home in case he gets mugged?
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