Bru-u-uh.
At least it’s better than gulags, right?
Oh wait, I’m probably talking with the wrong person about that.
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by Socialist States of Ludistan » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:39 am
by Grinning Dragon » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:41 am
Disgraces wrote:Romextly wrote:I said tight gun laws. To restrict access to guns such as the Ar-15 and by Semi autos. And On taking away the police I was responding to the OP. And actually there are people on the left who want to abolish the police. There is aalso people on the right
Who the fuck would need an AR-15 to defend themself?
by Nejii » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:43 am
by United Kingdom of British Isles » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:48 am
Sanghyeok wrote:Police are often seen as something necessary to protect lives, prevent crime, and preserve order. However, in practice this has rarely been the case in countries around the world. Instead, cases abound where police have failed to complete their duties, and instead not only bring harm to their communities through brutalising and terrorising their residents through beatings and sexual assault, continuously place business interests above the common people's, and preserving property instead of lives among others. Instead, some policy makers propose replacing police with solutions we know to be effective, such as rehabilitation of criminals as opposed to punitive punishment, decriminalising non-violent crimes, and spend more on mental health care, housing and education.
What do you think about police abolition entirely (in all nations) ? I support immediate reforms to reduce police power and provide more funding to welfare initiatives that reduce incentives and necessity for crime, with a long term plan of removing police as an institution.
by Socialist States of Ludistan » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:49 am
Nejii wrote:Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I thought you conservatives like your well regulated militias?
Centrist libertarian.
Just because I side with the right on select visible issues doesn't line me up directly with the right wing. I often side with the left on many things, such as education, LGBT rights and equalities, the COVID response, and to a degree gun rights. To name a few.
by Nejii » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:52 am
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:Nejii wrote:
Centrist libertarian.
Just because I side with the right on select visible issues doesn't line me up directly with the right wing. I often side with the left on many things, such as education, LGBT rights and equalities, the COVID response, and to a degree gun rights. To name a few.
Aye!
Me too.
by Western Theram » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:54 am
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by Nejii » Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:58 am
Western Theram wrote:"oF cOuRsE We neEd PoLiCe tHeY pReVeNt cRiMe"
except for when cops choose not to do their jobs and innocent people die or when they go on a power trip and just start shooting everybody.
"The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that police officers at all levels of the government have no duty to protect the citizens of this country. It is the job of police officers to investigate crimes and arrest criminals. We are on our own for protection."
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/supreme-c ... protection.
by Western Theram » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:02 am
Nejii wrote:Western Theram wrote:"oF cOuRsE We neEd PoLiCe tHeY pReVeNt cRiMe"
except for when cops choose not to do their jobs and innocent people die or when they go on a power trip and just start shooting everybody.
"The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that police officers at all levels of the government have no duty to protect the citizens of this country. It is the job of police officers to investigate crimes and arrest criminals. We are on our own for protection."
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/supreme-c ... protection.
Seven hundred thousand police officers in the US, "but lets railroad them all over the actions of a negative minority element".
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by Western Theram » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:06 am
Nejii wrote:Western Theram wrote:"oF cOuRsE We neEd PoLiCe tHeY pReVeNt cRiMe"
except for when cops choose not to do their jobs and innocent people die or when they go on a power trip and just start shooting everybody.
"The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that police officers at all levels of the government have no duty to protect the citizens of this country. It is the job of police officers to investigate crimes and arrest criminals. We are on our own for protection."
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/supreme-c ... protection.
Seven hundred thousand police officers in the US, "but lets railroad them all over the actions of a negative minority element".
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by Miku the Based » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:06 am
by Nejii » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:07 am
by Miku the Based » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:15 am
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:Can’t we just have, you know, normal police?
No need for anarcho-capitalism, guys.
by Nejii » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:17 am
by Western Theram » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:23 am
Nejii wrote:Western Theram wrote:police shootings are definitely NOT in the minority, they happen way too often, you just don't pay attention apparently
That's based on the premise that every single person shot by a police officer was innocent. As far as shootings/killings along the likes of George Floyd, Alton Sterling, Manuel Ellis, and others, those are a minority element. The drug dealers, gangbangers, armed assailants, psychos, and etcetera are not "unjust murders".
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by Arisyan » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:27 am
by Nejii » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:29 am
Western Theram wrote:Nejii wrote:
That's based on the premise that every single person shot by a police officer was innocent. As far as shootings/killings along the likes of George Floyd, Alton Sterling, Manuel Ellis, and others, those are a minority element. The drug dealers, gangbangers, armed assailants, psychos, and etcetera are not "unjust murders".
i mean they're not exactly suppose to kill guilty people either, that's what we have prison for, or at least that's what it should be used for focus on rehabilitation. but you'd be surprised on how little cops actually get the 'bad guys' hell the nashville police didn't even bother looking into the nashville bomber despite being TOLD he was making a bomb.
by Western Theram » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:33 am
Arisyan wrote:well yes but actually no.
To elaborate, have police be community based and reform the system so that they aren't so biased/forceful when it comes to arrests. Id personally make the justice system a mix between rehabilitative and punitive, where rehabilitation is used for the first 2 offences, but if they commit a crime again, then they go to prison.
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by The Free Joy State » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:34 am
Esternial wrote:Seems like a massive overcorrection.
by Miku the Based » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:36 am
Nejii wrote:police shootings are definitely NOT in the minority, they happen way too often, you just don't pay attention apparently
That's based on the premise that every single person shot by a police officer was innocent. As far as shootings/killings along the likes of George Floyd, Alton Sterling, Manuel Ellis, and others, those are a minority element. The drug dealers, gangbangers, armed assailants, psychos, and etcetera are not "unjust murders".
by SD_Film Artists » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:44 am
Nejii wrote:Western Theram wrote:police shootings are definitely NOT in the minority, they happen way too often, you just don't pay attention apparently
That's based on the premise that every single person shot by a police officer was innocent. As far as shootings/killings along the likes of George Floyd, Alton Sterling, Manuel Ellis, and others, those are a minority element. The drug dealers, gangbangers, armed assailants, psychos, and etcetera are not "unjust murders".
by CoraSpia » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:50 am
Nejii wrote:Western Theram wrote:i mean they're not exactly suppose to kill guilty people either, that's what we have prison for, or at least that's what it should be used for focus on rehabilitation. but you'd be surprised on how little cops actually get the 'bad guys' hell the nashville police didn't even bother looking into the nashville bomber despite being TOLD he was making a bomb.
I'm not saying "criminals should be killed", but when you resist a law enforcement officer, be it by struggling or firing a weapon, your taking your life into your own hands. An officer on duty who is fired at or at threat of being stabbed, clubbed, or even blown up, has the right to defend themselves. It's easy to judge someone else's action when you've never been in a situation like that yourself.
And as for the incompetence of MNPD, yes, they dropped the ball. Someone needs to be held accountable.
by Miku the Based » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:57 am
CoraSpia wrote:It shouldn't be easy for a police officer to justify why he killed somebody, because he's killed somebody.
by Imperium Latine » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:57 am
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