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Postby Mecha Bavarian » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:Twitter is not a basis for consensus nor is most Mainstream media biased but that’s not the topic. This hate group has no place anywhere and it’a nice to see the town so heavily against it.

So if they do not have a place anywhere... should they make a place for themselves? Maybe a "safe space".
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Postby Adamede » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:11 pm

Nakena wrote:Like I said before if the 4th Reich happens, it will be the US who becomes it.

Becuase of this?
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:11 pm

Adamede wrote:
Nakena wrote:
The US have inherited some of the 3rd Reich though.

But its something most people refuse to accept that, to fight the USSR, the US took over some elements. In practice, and people and also on a deeper level from the 3rd Reich. Which was itself brought into existence by certain spirits unleashed by the collapse that followed WW1.

The US pick up German scientists and specialists, and so did the USSR. And the Us want the only nation that had former SS fight for them against communists. Look up the ducking French Foriegn legion in Indochina for gods sake.

You’re stretching quite a bit too far here.


The FFL is France's responsibility, not the U.S's.
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Salus Maior wrote:
Adamede wrote:The US pick up German scientists and specialists, and so did the USSR. And the Us want the only nation that had former SS fight for them against communists. Look up the ducking French Foriegn legion in Indochina for gods sake.

You’re stretching quite a bit too far here.


The FFL is France's responsibility, not the U.S's.

The point of my comment is that the US isn’t special for making use of Nazis in the Cold War.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:13 pm

Mecha Bavarian wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Twitter is not a basis for consensus nor is most Mainstream media biased but that’s not the topic. This hate group has no place anywhere and it’a nice to see the town so heavily against it.

So if they do not have a place anywhere... should they make a place for themselves? Maybe a "safe space".

More malarkey instead of real answers. The townsfolk should just go oh well and accept it?

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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:15 pm

Nakena wrote:Further more as far-right ideologies in the west are concerned. I believe people flock to the more extreme elements due a lack of alternatives and the world the current mainstream media and the contemporary establishment and some religious pressure groups have been crafting in the past two decades.

For without what they do, there would be little incentive for most people to join such things as most people want, so I believe, live just in freedom and peace.


To a significant extant people in fringe ideologies are usually pretty incel.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:15 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Nakena wrote:Like I said before if the 4th Reich happens, it will be the US who becomes it.


Yes, this one, small religious gathering that literally everyone in the area hates and doesn't want around means that the US is on its way to being the 4th reich.

C- alarmism.


Again you missing out completly the bigger picture and context.

You also didn replied to my posts where I explained precisely to Sun and you the mechanism and why this would by happening and how. Its not because some small group of LARPers. Thats completly irrelevant. And that is what you get wrong, and they get wrong too themselfs. lol.

Adamede wrote:
Nakena wrote:Like I said before if the 4th Reich happens, it will be the US who becomes it.

Becuase of this?


No. See above.

Adamede wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
The FFL is France's responsibility, not the U.S's.

The point of my comment is that the US isn’t special for making use of Nazis in the Cold War.


Because the french care less about "muh morals" than the anglos. So they took directly waffen SS soldiers en masse into the FFL to fight against chicoms and vietnamese communists.
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Postby Mecha Bavarian » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:More malarkey instead of real answers. The townsfolk should just go oh well and accept it?

I am telling what do i think. I do not live there and i am not making that church.
I am not saying to force people to be forced to have anything in their backyard, but if the congregation has the legal rights to do it, then they can do it. Its their right.
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Postby Adamede » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:20 pm

Nakena wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Yes, this one, small religious gathering that literally everyone in the area hates and doesn't want around means that the US is on its way to being the 4th reich.

C- alarmism.


Again you missing out completly the bigger picture and context.

You also didn replied to my posts where I explained precisely to Sun and you the mechanism and why this would by happening and how. Its not because some small group of LARPers. Thats completly irrelevant. And that is what you get wrong, and they get wrong too themselfs. lol.

Adamede wrote:Becuase of this?


No. See above.

Adamede wrote:The point of my comment is that the US isn’t special for making use of Nazis in the Cold War.


Because the french care less about "muh morals" than the anglos. So they took directly waffen SS soldiers en masse into the FFL to fight against chicoms and vietnamese communists.

Doesn’t change the fact that you trying to use some to ing every peer in Cold War did as evidence of the US becoming the “4th Reich” is fucking stupid.

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Postby Nakena » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:23 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Nakena wrote:Further more as far-right ideologies in the west are concerned. I believe people flock to the more extreme elements due a lack of alternatives and the world the current mainstream media and the contemporary establishment and some religious pressure groups have been crafting in the past two decades.

For without what they do, there would be little incentive for most people to join such things as most people want, so I believe, live just in freedom and peace.


To a significant extant people in fringe ideologies are usually pretty incel.


At the initial phase ideologies on the fringe of an established society attract only outsiders, but when through events the society at larger is errupted, new entry points for previously irrelevant forces can open.

Prior to WW1 the whole von schoenerer ideology was considered extremly fringe. Basically it circulated in the Vienna underground and beyond in little papers and outlets that were like the 4chan of those days.

After WW1 this stuff managed to merge with other, and greater things unleashed by the implosion of the old order, and only in this combination it could become what it was. Weren't for Adolf Hitler in munich, this stuff would have remained possibly forever irrelevant.

It was never set in stone that, of all things out there, Schoenerers/Hitlers fringe beliefs had to emerge supreme. Even Hitler himself was oddly aware of this and said that he was merely fulfilling something greater.
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:31 pm

Outreamer wrote:
Nakena wrote:Like I said before if the 4th Reich happens, it will be the US who becomes it.

The US was practically founded on the basis of, "Leave us alone." For the majority of US history "Americans" have more so identified as apart of their home state.

It's all cyclical baby.

Objection. The US was practically founded on the basis of "Leave us (actually just white people) alone (unless you're a company, and if you're a state just don't be too conspicuous). (Oh, and btw we are NOT gonna leave you alone.)"
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Postby Nakena » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:33 pm

Adamede wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Again you missing out completly the bigger picture and context.

You also didn replied to my posts where I explained precisely to Sun and you the mechanism and why this would by happening and how. Its not because some small group of LARPers. Thats completly irrelevant. And that is what you get wrong, and they get wrong too themselfs. lol.



No. See above.



Because the french care less about "muh morals" than the anglos. So they took directly waffen SS soldiers en masse into the FFL to fight against chicoms and vietnamese communists.

Doesn’t change the fact that you trying to use some to ing every peer in Cold War did as evidence of the US becoming the “4th Reich” is fucking stupid.


No the thing is you don't get it. Theres a lot of things going on that are not very american in the classical sense to begin with and never have. Left-libertarians are aware of this to some degree.

As are some left-wingers, specifically when they know about Operation Condor, are very aware about this. That doesnt means that it affects the US in its entirety but theres some very sinister sides developed. They are being feeded by Wars. The dirtier the better for it. Vietnam was good, so was Iraq trowards that end. Playing with those dark spirits is playing like with fire. But go on, ignore their existence.

The ones in denial are who think they can use those things to their own advantage. But they have a mind of their own. They will always return to the master.

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Everything is. 8)
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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:34 pm

White privilege has to die, like, right now.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:34 pm

A m e n r i a wrote:White privilege has to die, like, right now.


What if theres actually an escalation of white privilege?

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Postby Mecha Bavarian » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:36 pm

Nakena wrote:What if theres actually an escalation of white privilege?

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Postby Nakena » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:41 pm

Mecha Bavarian wrote:
Nakena wrote:What if theres actually an escalation of white privilege?

Fear the white devil.(?)


*imagine faces of people in a horror movie being shocked something they thought gone has returned to haunt them again*

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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:49 pm

A m e n r i a wrote:White privilege has to die, like, right now.


I’m not sure what it even is. I’m not sure whether the fallen Russian sailors at Tsushima thought about it but when they drowned it didn’t exist.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:50 pm

Outreamer wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Objection. The US was practically founded on the basis of "Leave us (actually just white people) alone (unless you're a company, and if you're a state just don't be too conspicuous). (Oh, and btw we are NOT gonna leave you alone.)"

Yes yes, white people bad, we get it already.

Man, I can't wait until probably 50 to 100 years from now when we're all debating Chinese privilege :^)


We won’t. China can not rule with people consenting since it is completely devoid of moral legitimacy.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:02 am

New Ruchaar wrote:When California attempts to repeal their civil rights legislation, universities designate black-only zones and allow applicants based on their ethnicity rather than their merit, and when states give Coronavirus vaccines to people of color first over the elderly because they’re too white (while claiming this entire year that the lockdowns and economic ruin is in the name of saving the elderly), you are going to get your whites-only churches and fountains and seating areas in restaurants.

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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:06 am

A m e n r i a wrote:White privilege has to die, like, right now.


White privilege is not the literal idea that all white people are privileged. The white working class is often shafted by the state along with non-white working class people. White privilege refers to the systemic favouritism of white people in power and society.

So yeah, the idea of it needs rebranding because it's sort of bad optics.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:12 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:White privilege has to die, like, right now.


White privilege is not the literal idea that all white people are privileged. The white working class is often shafted by the state along with non-white working class people. White privilege refers to the systemic favouritism of white people in power and society.

So yeah, the idea of it needs rebranding because it's sort of bad optics.


There is systemic favoritism of German people and German companies in power and society in Germany. There is systemic favoritism of Japanese people and Japanese companies in power and society in Japan.

So there is really no such thing as “white privilege”. There are demographic dominance privilege, political dominance privilege and economic dominance privilege. None of them has anything to do with whiteness.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:13 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
White privilege is not the literal idea that all white people are privileged. The white working class is often shafted by the state along with non-white working class people. White privilege refers to the systemic favouritism of white people in power and society.

So yeah, the idea of it needs rebranding because it's sort of bad optics.


There is systemic favoritism of German people and German companies in power and society in Germany. There is systemic favoritism of Japanese people and Japanese companies in power and society in Japan.

So there is really no such thing as “white privilege”. There are demographic dominance privilege, political dominance privilege and economic dominance privilege. None of them has anything to do with whiteness.


This is more to the point.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:16 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
There is systemic favoritism of German people and German companies in power and society in Germany. There is systemic favoritism of Japanese people and Japanese companies in power and society in Japan.

So there is really no such thing as “white privilege”. There are demographic dominance privilege, political dominance privilege and economic dominance privilege. None of them has anything to do with whiteness.


This is more to the point.


Yup.

In most societies political, economic and demographic powers are separate. For example Armenians were generally richer than Turks in Ottoman Empire, yet they were more likely to be murdered. This is a clear instance of economic and political power being separate. We can’t really say that when Armenians were managing mines they had “Armenian privilege” and were oppressing the Turks. Then when Armenian Genocide happened suddenly it disappeared and extreme “Turkish Privilege” appeared.

Even in the United States this happens. Indian Americans have a lot more economic than political, let alone demographic power. Moreover they have a nuclear India backing them (again since the foreign nation state factor does not exist in white-black issues this is a very important but ignored factor lol). It doesn’t really make sense to say that they are more or less privileged than white and black Americans. I’m sure their level of privilege varies rapidly depending on the exact situation. Moreover India itself is extremely diverse so eventually it is dependent on the exact individual.

Usually different ethnic groups are like different warplanes or tanks in games. You can’t really say that Sherman tanks are inherently better or worse than Tigers or T-34s. They all have their relative strengths and weaknesses.
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Postby Sundiata » Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:18 am

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This is extremely objectionable but I have no idea if something can be done about this. I hope something can, and is.
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