Super Cool Florida wrote:Porn is an addiction that needs therapy.
Nah. It CAN be, but it isn't always by far.
Women shouldnt be so desperate they have to sell off their bodies to make a buck.
What about people who aren't "desperate?"
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by Necroghastia » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:41 pm
Super Cool Florida wrote:Porn is an addiction that needs therapy.
Women shouldnt be so desperate they have to sell off their bodies to make a buck.
by Fahran » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:41 pm
Necroghastia wrote:So in other words, it prevents people from doing something that is already illegal, as well as preventing people from doing one of the most innocuous things there is. Come on.
Necroghastia wrote:Sure, provided the hoops are reasonable. These are quite blatantly not.
by Super Cool Florida » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:42 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Companies are the culprit of this. I think there is a difference between banning porn and banning crime. Companies must be in control, it would be wrong to ban porn completely.Punished UMN wrote:The reason for the bill is that there was a recent scandal about the largest porn website in the world having massive amounts of actual rapes on it.
NEWS; There’s no news today. A kitten was born though.
by Nakena » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:43 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Punished UMN wrote:No, it's just a slippery slope argument, "Sure, the bill bans non-consensual pornography, but if we let them take that, they'll take everything else" is a leap of logic.
It's not just non-consensual porn. They're going after everything, like NSFW artists for instance. This already happened to Tumblr, it's been encroaching on DeviantArt for a while, so on and so forth. I'm always against blatant censorship in the name of self interest, and that's what this bill is.
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Companies are the culprit of this. I think there is a difference between banning porn and banning crime. Companies must be in control, it would be wrong to ban porn completely.Punished UMN wrote:The reason for the bill is that there was a recent scandal about the largest porn website in the world having massive amounts of actual rapes on it.
by Necroghastia » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:44 pm
Punished UMN wrote:Necroghastia wrote:1) So in other words, it prevents people from doing something that is already illegal, as well as preventing people from doing one of the most innocuous things there is. Come on.
2) Sure, provided the hoops are reasonable. These are quite blatantly not.
1) The current regulations were not working precisely because there were no legal repercussions for sites to host content such as rape and child pornography, due to their protections as platforms, and much of this content is downloaded and redistributed on major sites like pornhub and xvideos.
2) What is unreasonable about having to prove that everyone in the video consented?
by Neanderthaland » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:44 pm
by Super Cool Florida » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:44 pm
NEWS; There’s no news today. A kitten was born though.
by Washington Resistance Army » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:45 pm
by Punished UMN » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:48 pm
Necroghastia wrote:Punished UMN wrote:1) The current regulations were not working precisely because there were no legal repercussions for sites to host content such as rape and child pornography, due to their protections as platforms, and much of this content is downloaded and redistributed on major sites like pornhub and xvideos.
This doesn't address my point in the slightest.2) What is unreasonable about having to prove that everyone in the video consented?
What is reasonable about having to prove that everyone in a video from 10, 20, 30+ years ago consented by uploading a signed form? What is reasonable about a site that hosts entirely drawn porn being forced to maintain a 24 hour hotline for revenge porn?
by Ameriganastan » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:48 pm
The term "pornographic image" means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer generated image whether made by or produced by electronic, mechanical or other means of sexually explicit conduct
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by Fahran » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:48 pm
Super Cool Florida wrote:Most women enter porn because they see it as a good way to earn revenue. Its not womens or mans fault that porn has become addictive.
Saying porn CAN be addictive is like saying cigarettes CAN be addictive but arent always addictive. Sure, it might not be but you still get that urge to do it again and again and again and again and aga
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by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:48 pm
no one is desperate, porn is an art, the real despair is the conservative censor mindset. The culprit is not porn, the real culprit is irresponsible parents. You also need to be aware that porn isn't real, no one is devalued, it's just a role.Super Cool Florida wrote:Porn is an addiction that needs therapy. Women shouldnt be so desperate they have to sell off their bodies to make a buck.
Many men have beem impacted by porn, and many children have been watching the shit. Many men say "oh yes. porn sure is accurate as fuck" when in reality, porn is not accurate as fuck. Loads of people have said their addiction to porn is an addiction, and a whole movement has been made against recovering from the addiction to pornography.
It makes men see many women as sluts/sex objects.
Porn should be banned outright. Its just like an drug. Cocaine to be exact but you dont snort it, you click 'play'
by Punished UMN » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:49 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Fahran wrote:That's not even what's being proposed.
I mean, it's not far off. Just look at that part under (3)The term "pornographic image" means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer generated image whether made by or produced by electronic, mechanical or other means of sexually explicit conduct
by Necroghastia » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:49 pm
Fahran wrote:Necroghastia wrote:So in other words, it prevents people from doing something that is already illegal, as well as preventing people from doing one of the most innocuous things there is. Come on.
It's illegal, yes, but this will better enforce it and put the onus on a corporation to do a better job of NOT benefitting from crimes. And, given it's MindGeek we're talking about, it's definitely needed.
Necroghastia wrote:Sure, provided the hoops are reasonable. These are quite blatantly not.
What regulations in your mind would be reasonable to impose on a large corporation and on its employees who engage in adult acts?
by Neanderthaland » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:50 pm
by Punished UMN » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:50 pm
Necroghastia wrote:Fahran wrote:It's illegal, yes, but this will better enforce it and put the onus on a corporation to do a better job of NOT benefitting from crimes. And, given it's MindGeek we're talking about, it's definitely needed.
No. It's MindGeek you're talking about. It's not the only company that does adult material.
What regulations in your mind would be reasonable to impose on a large corporation and on its employees who engage in adult acts?
Dunno, specifically. Doesn't stop me from being able to tell when something's shit, though.
by Ameriganastan » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:50 pm
Fahran wrote:Super Cool Florida wrote:Most women enter porn because they see it as a good way to earn revenue. Its not womens or mans fault that porn has become addictive.
Saying porn CAN be addictive is like saying cigarettes CAN be addictive but arent always addictive. Sure, it might not be but you still get that urge to do it again and again and again and again and aga
Porn is EXTREMELY addictive. Given researchers compare porn to cigarettes, alcohol, and freakin' cocaine, I don't think that can really be overstated, especially not in light of documented viewing habits.
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by Punished UMN » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:51 pm
by Fahran » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:51 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:I mean, it's not far off. Just look at that part under (3)The term "pornographic image" means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer generated image whether made by or produced by electronic, mechanical or other means of sexually explicit conduct
by Necroghastia » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:51 pm
by Picairn » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:51 pm
Drongonia wrote:I support this. Porn rots the brain and degeneracy such as this isn't true freedom of expression, that's just a load of cringeworthy American liberalism. Expression of what? Smut? Give me a break lmao.
by Punished UMN » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:52 pm
by Nakena » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:53 pm
Super Cool Florida wrote:Most women enter porn because they see it as a good way to earn revenue.
Ameriganastan wrote:
Oh, bugger off with that. Everything enjoyable is addictive. Food, video games, tasty fruity beverages (I'm drinking Hawaiian Punch at the moment. Blue. Best flavor), gambling, television, etc and so on. People just zero in on porn "addiction" cause it riles up certain subsections of people who vote.
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