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by Agarntrop » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:33 am
by Necroghastia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:44 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Ifreann wrote:If you're writing off the deaths of innocent people as statistically irrelevant then what is even your problem with these people who supposedly don't deserve to live? Are they getting executed for not filling out the proper forms before killing a statistically insignificant number of people?
Every single system leads to innocents being wronged in one way or another. That's just a result of human imperfection. The ideal is to simply make that number as small as possible, which is fully possible even with the death penalty.
by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:47 am
Necroghastia wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Every single system leads to innocents being wronged in one way or another. That's just a result of human imperfection. The ideal is to simply make that number as small as possible, which is fully possible even with the death penalty.
Except - shocker! - eliminating the death penalty would make that number even smaller!
Ifreann wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Every single system leads to innocents being wronged in one way or another. That's just a result of human imperfection. The ideal is to simply make that number as small as possible, which is fully possible even with the death penalty.
People who are wrongly imprisoned can be freed. People who are wrongly fined can have their money returned. People wrongly executed are dead forever.
by Necroghastia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:52 am
Turelisa- wrote:Wherever this penalty is absent there is accordingly an unchecked tendency among the reprobate type.
Since they can't develop a moral conscience,
their general motive of rational self-interest can only be influenced by the strongest motive present in human nature, which is self-preservation, and accordingly the only punishment for taking a human life, and in such a wanton, merciless way, is forfeiture of the life of the convicted murderer.
The recent murder in my city of a young man, whose life was still ahead of him, by a pack of mindless brutes wandering the streets looking for somebody, anybody vulnerable to beat up and slaughter with knives attests to my conviction.
Any questions?
by Necroghastia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:54 am
Ifreann wrote:People who are wrongly imprisoned can be freed. People who are wrongly fined can have their money returned. People wrongly executed are dead forever.
Man you should look into stories who are freed after decades of wrongful imprisonment. It's not exactly a mercy.
by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:56 am
Necroghastia wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Not in any relevant way. Less than 50 people are executed per year in the US.
I'm sure those executed under false convictions would take comfort in knowing they are irrelevant
That's sarcasm. There's no such god damned thing as a life taken without cause being irrelevant.
by Necroghastia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:02 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Necroghastia wrote:I'm sure those executed under false convictions would take comfort in knowing they are irrelevant
That's sarcasm. There's no such god damned thing as a life taken without cause being irrelevant.
There literally is though. That's how statistics works.
by FutureAmerica » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:26 pm
by Punished UMN » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:29 pm
FutureAmerica wrote:Instead of the death penalty, violent criminals and rapists should be lobotomized for their crimes. They can then be safely released back into society. The current system is immoral.
by Saint Yosx » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:30 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Totally justified. Plenty of people simply do not deserve to live.
by FutureAmerica » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:36 pm
by Punished UMN » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:38 pm
by Agarntrop » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:42 pm
by Saint Yosx » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:43 pm
by Necroghastia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:46 pm
by Turelisa- » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:47 pm
FutureAmerica wrote:Instead of the death penalty, violent criminals and rapists should be lobotomized for their crimes. They can then be safely released back into society. The current system is immoral.
by Necroghastia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:49 pm
by Saint Yosx » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:50 pm
by FutureAmerica » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:51 pm
Turelisa- wrote:FutureAmerica wrote:Instead of the death penalty, violent criminals and rapists should be lobotomized for their crimes. They can then be safely released back into society. The current system is immoral.
Lobotomy is a pseudoscientific barbarism. I think a murderer would rather choose death than submit to an existence of imbecility.
by Necroghastia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:52 pm
Stylan wrote:I don't really care lol
death penalty is one of those non-issues that really does not matter at all.
by Necroghastia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:54 pm
by Saint Yosx » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:54 pm
by Turelisa- » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:55 pm
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