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by New Vihenia » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:37 pm
by Triplebaconation » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:02 pm
by New Vihenia » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:14 pm
Triplebaconation wrote:it was seven feet long
by Gallia- » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:15 am
by New Vihenia » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:04 am
Gallia- wrote:
just use nammo's ramjet shell honestly
but any sort of ultra aerodynamic (or self powered) projectile has a pathetically tiny payload i guess
only gud for nuuk
by Gallia- » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:15 am
by New Vihenia » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:23 am
by Gallia- » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:33 am
by New Vihenia » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:44 am
Gallia- wrote:I don't really see the utility of having a shell with a low payload fraction being used solely for the purpose of flying far, though. Unless you're dueling a Pershing battery, or some other enemy artillery system that has nuclear weapons, it doesn't seem like the trade off in expense-to-potential-damage is worth it.
by Kantian Germany » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:46 am
by New Vihenia » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:50 am
Kantian Germany wrote:Would a nation which never used spies always lose a war? (I think Immanuel Kant would disapprove of spies).
by Kantian Germany » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:53 am
New Vihenia wrote:Kantian Germany wrote:Would a nation which never used spies always lose a war? (I think Immanuel Kant would disapprove of spies).
Yes, unless one invented a device capable of reading someone's mind.
Other than that human intelligence can provide critical intelligence like stealing or copying enemy plans, taking high resolution pics from angle other than above, talks with enemy populations or maybe get him/herself into enemy ranks and work from there. and lets not forget stealing enemy equipment.
by Gallia- » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:57 am
New Vihenia wrote:Gallia- wrote:I don't really see the utility of having a shell with a low payload fraction being used solely for the purpose of flying far, though. Unless you're dueling a Pershing battery, or some other enemy artillery system that has nuclear weapons, it doesn't seem like the trade off in expense-to-potential-damage is worth it.
Wont the precision give the necessary effect ? Like isnt it that the argument for having precision weapon in the first place ?
New Vihenia wrote:The thing with long range, means not only dueling or standoff but also improve the coverage of the battery, you can cover more and supposedly engage way more targets as each targets now requires lesser amount of dakka to kill. I recalled Excalibur were supposed to be like 20K maybe but the initial plan was 200.000 shells which doesnt materialize.
by Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:34 pm
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War
Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:If there was only a "like" button for NS posts....
by Gallia- » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:08 am
by Cossack Peoples » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:05 am
"You give a monkey a stick, inevitably he’ll beat another monkey to death with it."
— Sadavir Errinwright, Expanse S2E12
by Gallia- » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:13 am
by The Akasha Colony » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:40 am
Cossack Peoples wrote:Why are we seeing an abundance of newer Russian frigates and corvettes rather than other ships? Do they believe that the smaller ships can be as capable (maybe not individually but in pairs or small groups) as larger contemporary vessels, or is it merely to fill the gaps in their coastal defense and ability to respond to naval threats?
Edit: Or is this even indicative of a global shift to smaller littoral or patrol vessels being emphasized in contrast to heavier and similarly-armed capital vessels?
by Danternoust » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:40 pm
The Akasha Colony wrote:Cossack Peoples wrote:Why are we seeing an abundance of newer Russian frigates and corvettes rather than other ships? Do they believe that the smaller ships can be as capable (maybe not individually but in pairs or small groups) as larger contemporary vessels, or is it merely to fill the gaps in their coastal defense and ability to respond to naval threats?
Edit: Or is this even indicative of a global shift to smaller littoral or patrol vessels being emphasized in contrast to heavier and similarly-armed capital vessels?
Despite what Putin and RT would have you believe, Russia's economic resources are quite finite, and it must prioritize spending to the projects that are most relevant to Russia's defense requirements. And those are the SSBN fleet, the fighter force, and the ground forces given Russia's long borders with potentially hostile powers. Maintaining or expanding the surface fleet is not a particularly high priority, so Russia is only able to fund a few new frigates and corvettes here and there, and some basic modernization to keep the old Cold War workhorses sort-of in service. It keeps the shipbuilding industry from collapsing into complete non-existence, but that's really all Russia can afford.
by Austrasien » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:49 pm
Cossack Peoples wrote:Why are we seeing an abundance of newer Russian frigates and corvettes rather than other ships? Do they believe that the smaller ships can be as capable (maybe not individually but in pairs or small groups) as larger contemporary vessels, or is it merely to fill the gaps in their coastal defense and ability to respond to naval threats?
Edit: Or is this even indicative of a global shift to smaller littoral or patrol vessels being emphasized in contrast to heavier and similarly-armed capital vessels?
by Danternoust » Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:11 pm
Austrasien wrote:Russia really needs foreign partners to help revitalize their shipbuilding and they were moving in this direction with the Mistral deal before 2014.
by Austrasien » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:21 pm
Danternoust wrote:This is ludicrous, this is like saying the US industrial sector has collapsed simply because it was outsourced for some reason after the union influence in politics were crushed.
by Danternoust » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:39 pm
Austrasien wrote:the value of all its machinery exports are less than the value of its wheat exports.
Austrasien wrote:Though the Russian government has more revenue than is sometimes imagined (a lot of people wrongly think Russia is perpetually broke) having to drag along a whole sector of the economy: Prioritizing investments, keeping insolvent firms afloat, supporting academic research, training new skilled workers, is a huge task for a state which now at least nominally pays market prices and balances books.
by Gallia- » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:10 am
by Danternoust » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:29 am
The SU-57 is classified, how do you distinguish one SU-57 from another? Besides, building a fighter aircraft from a first principles materials analysis is not available. Learning cost curves and initial production costs for common aircraft imply that scaling up production could... potentially... halve the price of advanced aircraft if the production runs are allow to be quadruple that of other same generation aircraft.Gallia- wrote:Russia just needs to promise putting Su-57's zillions of radars into KF-X or something and get Korea fully on board.
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