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2020 US General Election Thread XII: The End

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What's Your Opinion on The Election's Outcome

Mostly Good
94
21%
Good
84
19%
A Little of Both Good and Bad
125
28%
Meh
51
11%
Bad
46
10%
Very Bad
44
10%
 
Total votes : 444

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Myrth
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Postby Myrth » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:00 pm

Saiwania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The disparity of the electoral college shows itself yet again. In any other country this would already be over.


Why should California's residents decide the outcome for the entire country? The EC is supposed to be a compromise between accepting simple majorities as counted whilst still allowing for the possibility that enough other states can win out despite having fewer people.


Maybe California should split itself into 68 states with the population of Wyoming, each with 3 EVs and 2 senators?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:01 pm

Telconi wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
Why can't your country be like all the other developed ones and use a popular vote?


Because President Hillary Clinton

and that would not have been a bad thing

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Postby Picairn » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:01 pm

Diarcesia wrote:Flipping the side again... when the urban demographic are accustomed to majority popular vote privileges, equality in political voice feels like oppression.

Equality in political voice? Ha! Safe states are not even paid attention to.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:01 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Mohave County, where I almost got shot over a bumper sticker. They can go join Utah idc.

Wait really? Fuck remind me to stay south


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Postby Jolthig » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:01 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Jolthig wrote:*sigh*

Nevada, Pennsylvania, Georgia, anyone???

Going, going, going.... most likely blue

Trump is 49.5% and Biden 49.3% really close! Come on Georgia, flip!
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:01 pm

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
He did a press conference?

Enjoy?


Sometimes it's tough to remember like "Oh shit, this guy has been running shit for four years, mental."

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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:02 pm

Nakena wrote:
Cultural Posadism wrote:Oh geesh, I missed Trump's presser. How much copium did he consume live on camera?


He was very tired and groggy. Lackluster and unmotivated reading down his speech. When he walked away from the mics, his shoulders were hanging. No swagger or posture.

Impossible. Ben Garrison showed me that Trump is a mighty chad with impeccable posture and lots of sharp angles!
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Postby Nagakawa » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:02 pm

Myrth wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Why should California's residents decide the outcome for the entire country? The EC is supposed to be a compromise between accepting simple majorities as counted whilst still allowing for the possibility that enough other states can win out despite having fewer people.


Maybe California should split itself into 68 states with the population of Wyoming, each with 3 EVs and 2 senators?


What if we have a unitary government in the US?

Haha just kidding

Unless...?

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Postby Myrensis » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:02 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Why should California's residents decide the outcome for the entire country? The EC is supposed to be a compromise between accepting simple majorities as counted whilst still allowing for the possibility that enough other states can win out despite having fewer people.


Why can't your country be like all the other developed ones and use a popular vote?


Because despite the fact that it's used for literally every single other elected office in the nation, somehow when applied to the Presidency it's horrible tyRanNy oF tHe maJoRiTy and totally undemocratic!

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:02 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:Why can't your country be like all the other developed ones and use a popular vote?


Because the US is unique amongst developed nations and it being different is arguably a feature, instead of a flaw.
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Postby Alternamerica » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:02 pm

Myrth wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Why should California's residents decide the outcome for the entire country? The EC is supposed to be a compromise between accepting simple majorities as counted whilst still allowing for the possibility that enough other states can win out despite having fewer people.


Maybe California should split itself into 68 states with the population of Wyoming, each with 3 EVs and 2 senators?


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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Because President Hillary Clinton

and that would not have been a bad thing


It would have been a bad thing, although I must admit far better than Trump.
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Postby Kanadorika » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:02 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Kanadorika wrote:Paradise burning down may have also swayed some votes. The feds are mismanaging the forests in the Sierra.


Well, if they had remembered to rake the forest floors, just rake the floors, that's what they always say, rake the floors, Finland does it.

I was a wildland firefighter in 2016 and I lived in Paradise. Can confirm we did not rake the forest. You can blame the fire on me.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:There are 20k votes left with the majority in the metro Atlanta area

Its going to be within a few thousand votes either way. Does Georgia have automatic recounts?


It seems not. Either side can request the recount if the margin is less than 0.5%




Chan Island wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:You don't want a 269-269?


In what scenario does Georgia going for Biden does that make a 269? If Georgia goes for Biden he will have 270 points, even if he loses in every single other place that's in the balance.

Also, no, I rather like America when it isn't in the midst of all-consuming constitutional crisis.


The second one in 20 years. The Electoral College is epileptic, and one day it's going to fall in front of a train.

Hopefully it's not this time!






And how many pictures do we have of Bannon himself with Trump? "Bureaucrats" indeed!




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Fauci has been a reagan appointee and is also an respectable expert in his field. He should have been listened more.

It was a mistake to fire Bannon of course, good times when we had still one of us in the White House. ; )


Oddly enough I agree. Just about everything Trump tried to do when Bannon was his #1 advisor failed in court, or just plain failed. It's like Bannon's advice always included "screw the lawyers, just do it".
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 pm

Cultural Posadism wrote:
Nakena wrote:
He was very tired and groggy. Lackluster and unmotivated reading down his speech. When he walked away from the mics, his shoulders were hanging. No swagger or posture.

Impossible. Ben Garrison showed me that Trump is a mighty chad with impeccable posture and lots of sharp angles!


It was like 3 weeks ago when I learned he was a real person.

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Postby Picairn » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 pm

Nagakawa wrote:What if we have a unitary government in the US?

Haha just kidding

Unless...?

Red states won't like it.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Why can't your country be like all the other developed ones and use a popular vote?


Because the US is unique amongst developed nations and it being different is arguably a feature, instead of a flaw.

Uniquely bad, yes.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Why can't your country be like all the other developed ones and use a popular vote?


Because the US is unique amongst developed nations and it being different is arguably a feature, instead of a flaw.


The person with the most votes not winning is a bad thing.

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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 pm

Kanadorika wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Well, if they had remembered to rake the forest floors, just rake the floors, that's what they always say, rake the floors, Finland does it.

I was a wildland firefighter in 2016 and I lived in Paradise. Can confirm we did not rake the forest. You can blame the fire on me.


Damn dude, yeah, should've done that.

In all seriousness, I remember that vaguely, thanks for your amazing work.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Why can't your country be like all the other developed ones and use a popular vote?


Because the US is unique amongst developed nations and it being different is arguably a feature, instead of a flaw.


That's why their income inequality is so high, their healthcare system is overpriced and terrible, and their life expectancy actually decreased for some groups last year?
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 pm

Nagakawa wrote:
Myrth wrote:
Maybe California should split itself into 68 states with the population of Wyoming, each with 3 EVs and 2 senators?


What if we have a unitary government in the US?

Haha just kidding

Unless...?

That'd just be California in steroids.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:03 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Why can't your country be like all the other developed ones and use a popular vote?


Because the US is unique amongst developed nations and it being different is arguably a feature, instead of a flaw.

Being ¨unique¨ is not always a good thing. Persevering the EC to continue being ¨unique¨ is a dumb idea.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:

did a new vote batch come in?

Yes
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:04 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Why can't your country be like all the other developed ones and use a popular vote?


Because the US is unique amongst developed nations and it being different is arguably a feature, instead of a flaw.


This is some serious "We just built different" energy.

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Postby Nagakawa » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:04 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Why can't your country be like all the other developed ones and use a popular vote?


Because the US is unique amongst developed nations and it being different is arguably a feature, instead of a flaw.


If by "unique" you mean obviously broken, then I'm happy to have boring vanilla New Zealand any day.

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