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2020 US General Election Thread XI: Is It Over Yet?

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Who Do You Anticipate Winning the 2020 Election and How?

Decisive Donald Trump Victory (Both Popular & Electoral Win)
39
8%
Pyrrhic Donald Trump Victory (Electoral Win/Popular Loss)
198
39%
Contingent Election (Electoral Tie, Vote Goes to House & Senate)
32
6%
Decisive Joe Biden Victory (Both Popular & Electoral Win)
208
41%
Pyrrhic Joe Biden Victory (Electoral Win/Popular Loss)
31
6%
 
Total votes : 508

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:10 am

He is about by 10k votes now for me.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:10 am

Andsed wrote:Biden's lead in Michigan has extended to .2% according to the AP.


Like I said with WI earlier in the morning (last night?) I'm cautiously optimistic that Biden's lead expands from here on.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:10 am

New haven america wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Alright, my predictions for what happens if one of the candidates wins.

If Biden Wins
-The nation is first ravaged by democratic protests happening after today due to it looking like Trump won, then by republican ones after it turns out Biden won. His popularity falls to the high 40's.
-Biden serves one full term, and does not run in the 2024 Primaries. An establishment democrat is elected, possibly Warren or someone like her.
-Trump retires, but Trumpism remains. He likely does not run in 2024, and Ted Cruz or Pence become nominee.
-Warren wins in 2024.
If Trump Wins
-The nation is ravaged by democratic protests. Trumps approval rating somewhat climbs to the high 40's.
-He serves another term.
-Pence runs in 2024
-The electoral college is abolished in 2023.
-The Democrats decide the moderate wing failed them and actually embrace the policies of the radical left. Bernie is to old, so AOC is likely nominated.
-AOC wins in 2024.

How is Warren an establishment Dem?

Though the she doesn't sound like a bad pick either had a lot of interesting ideas but needs more enthusiasm, probably coming from a good vp pick.


She's not. Biden is the establishment Dem, unfortunately.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:10 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Andsed wrote:Okay my money is on a very narrow Biden win. Shocked things were this closed but honestly I am just relived that we might not have to deal with Trump for the next 4 years.


Don't give me hope...

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:11 am

Valrifell wrote:
Andsed wrote:Biden's lead in Michigan has extended to .2% according to the AP.


Like I said with WI earlier in the morning (last night?) I'm cautiously optimistic that Biden's lead expands from here on.

How about the senate election?

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Postby Cedoria » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:11 am

Valrifell wrote:
Andsed wrote:Biden's lead in Michigan has extended to .2% according to the AP.


Like I said with WI earlier in the morning (last night?) I'm cautiously optimistic that Biden's lead expands from here on.

Like what happened in WI only a few hours later, pretty much.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:11 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:He is about by 10k votes now for me.

Same here. If he can just hold it I think its pretty much over. Way to narrow for my tastes.
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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:11 am

If GOP elects a nationalist liberal instead of Pence for 2024, they've absolutely got room for a landslide. Latinos go red. They just need someone who can embrace the changes of 1980-2000 instead of living in 1979.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:12 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Don't give me hope...

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.


Honestly the meme potential from this election has been off the chain. I'm part of a Young Democrats of Florida discord, and the amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth that ensued when it became clear Florida would go red was hilarious. That's when this really became an election instead of a landslide.
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Postby Juristonia » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:12 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Juristonia wrote:What part of the AWB of 94 was "he wants to take away everyone’s guns" exactly?
And good. Fuck the gun lobby.


Biden explicitly wants to place every "assault weapon" on the NFA which would involve taking peoples guns away. They've long since moved to things much more extreme than AWB94.

There's a very big leap between an assault weapons ban and "taking everyone's guns away".
Come on, dude. It's a bit disingenuous to say otherwise. You know that.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:12 am

New haven america wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Alright, my predictions for what happens if one of the candidates wins.

If Biden Wins
-The nation is first ravaged by democratic protests happening after today due to it looking like Trump won, then by republican ones after it turns out Biden won. His popularity falls to the high 40's.
-Biden serves one full term, and does not run in the 2024 Primaries. An establishment democrat is elected, possibly Warren or someone like her.
-Trump retires, but Trumpism remains. He likely does not run in 2024, and Ted Cruz or Pence become nominee.
-Warren wins in 2024.
If Trump Wins
-The nation is ravaged by democratic protests. Trumps approval rating somewhat climbs to the high 40's.
-He serves another term.
-Pence runs in 2024
-The electoral college is abolished in 2023.
-The Democrats decide the moderate wing failed them and actually embrace the policies of the radical left. Bernie is to old, so AOC is likely nominated.
-AOC wins in 2024.

How is Warren an establishment Dem?

Though tbh she doesn't sound like a bad pick either, had a lot of interesting ideas but needs more enthusiasm, probably coming from a good vp pick.

Ok, so who might run in 2024 if Biden wins?
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Postby Cedoria » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:13 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
New haven america wrote:How is Warren an establishment Dem?

Though tbh she doesn't sound like a bad pick either, had a lot of interesting ideas but needs more enthusiasm, probably coming from a good vp pick.

Ok, so who might run in 2024 if Biden wins?

Good god can we finish this one before we worry about that?
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:13 am

San Lumen wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Like I said with WI earlier in the morning (last night?) I'm cautiously optimistic that Biden's lead expands from here on.

How about the senate election?

Everything's basically the same.

Dems gained like 2 spots, Dems lost 2 spots.

And Maine still kept Collins for some reason only God knows at this point.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:13 am

Cedoria wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Ok, so who might run in 2024 if Biden wins?

Good god can we finish this one before we worry about that?

HA! No.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:13 am

Juristonia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Biden explicitly wants to place every "assault weapon" on the NFA which would involve taking peoples guns away. They've long since moved to things much more extreme than AWB94.

There's a very big leap between an assault weapons ban and "taking everyone's guns away".
Come on, dude. It's a bit disingenuous to say otherwise. You know that.


Nah, it's really pretty straightforward. 'Assault weapons' have always been nebulous af and spooky scary strawmen. You just have to inflate the strawman a bit and muddle the definition further, to things like 'assault pistols', and voila.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:13 am

Andsed wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:He is about by 10k votes now for me.

Same here. If he can just hold it I think its pretty much over. Way to narrow for my tastes.

Same. I was hoping for a least 2012 style victory but that’s not going to happen.

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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:13 am

San Lumen wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Like I said with WI earlier in the morning (last night?) I'm cautiously optimistic that Biden's lead expands from here on.

How about the senate election?

Michigan (92% report) has James (R) leading by 0.6%
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:14 am

Odreria wrote:
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Now all we need is one faithless elector to throw it into the House :P

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:14 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How about the senate election?

Michigan has James (R) leading by 0.6%

Just unreal.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:14 am

Cedoria wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Ok, so who might run in 2024 if Biden wins?

Good god can we finish this one before we worry about that?

No.

Biden's probably gonna be a single term pres by choice and Kamala isn't anywhere near liked enough to win the Presidency.

We have to find someone who can beat the Reps in 2024 ASAP.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:14 am

Juristonia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Biden explicitly wants to place every "assault weapon" on the NFA which would involve taking peoples guns away. They've long since moved to things much more extreme than AWB94.

There's a very big leap between an assault weapons ban and "taking everyone's guns away".
Come on, dude. It's a bit disingenuous to say otherwise. You know that.


I mean, "assault weapons" are the only guns anyone has really bought in any worthwhile numbers since the AWB expired. Shit a lot of more basic things have to be custom manufactured now because the lines don't exist for bulk production anymore. Literally everyone has an AR, it's the most common rifle in the country bar none.
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:15 am

Odreria wrote:
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Now all we need is one faithless elector to throw it into the House :P

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Tbf, that'll be one hell of a way to give yourself a Wikipedia page

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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:16 am

New haven america wrote:
Cedoria wrote:Good god can we finish this one before we worry about that?

No.

Biden's probably gonna be a single term pres by choice and Kamala isn't anywhere near liked enough to win the Presidency.

We have to find someone who can beat the Reps in 2024 ASAP.


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