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Poll ended at Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:35 am

Fuso
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Yamato
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Hinomoto
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LDP Land
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Suga's Playland
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Other
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Total votes : 13

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Solvokina
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Postby Solvokina » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:48 am

LDP is the only major party keeping nuclear in play in Japan. Get rid of them and we have a problem
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:26 am



"Yoshihide Suga was born the son of strawberry farmers" it says in the caption.

It looks to me like they picked him a bit early, and 71 years later he still hasn't ripened up.
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Japanese Politics Thread

Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:35 am

As far as I know, there is not yet a thread for Japanese politics in general. Therefore, I wanted to make a general thread for politics in Japan, where we can talk about topics such as social issues, reform on economics, approval of politicians, scandals, international relations, elections and more. We can also talk about how to break the LDP's dominance in Japanese politics, opposition to LDP and conservatism in Japan, and more.

I want to start with two things. First, news: Monday was Suga PM's first appearance in front of Diet (Japanese parliament) and he laid out policy on climate, corona, and diplomacy especially with Korea and China. I am curious as to his approach on historical revisionism and his attempts to engage with China/Korea especially.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news ... ries/1359/

Secondly, I think it would be fun for us to choose a name for this thread:
Fuso (扶桑), an ancient name of Japan
Yamato (大和), another name for Japan and Japanese people
Hinomoto (日の本), an alternative reading of "日本" (Nihon)
LDP Land, since the LDP is the ruling party by far
Suga's Playland, after the current PM
Last edited by Sanghyeok on Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:53 am

Sanghyeok wrote:As far as I know, there is not yet a thread for Japanese politics in general. Therefore, I wanted to make a general thread for politics in Japan, where we can talk about topics such as social issues, reform on economics, approval of politicians, scandals, international relations, elections and more. We can also talk about how to break the LDP's dominance in Japanese politics, opposition to LDP and conservatism in Japan, and more.

I want to start with two things. First, news: Monday was Suga PM's first appearance in front of Diet (Japanese parliament) and he laid out policy on climate, corona, and diplomacy especially with Korea and China. I am curious as to his approach on historical revisionism and his attempts to engage with China/Korea especially.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news ... ries/1359/

Secondly, I think it would be fun for us to choose a name for this thread:
Fuso (扶桑), an ancient name of Japan
Yamato (大和), another name for Japan and Japanese people
Hinomoto (日の本), an alternative reading of "日本" (Nihon)
LDP Land, since the LDP is the ruling party by far
Suga's Playland, after the current PM

Even more fun, a little searching to find this: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=490372
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Sanghyeok
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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:53 am

Oh...is this going to be locked? >.<
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:55 am

Sanghyeok wrote:Oh...is this going to be locked? >.<

Maybe or I could merge them. The poll will disappear but since it only concerns picking a name for the thread that doesn't seem like a big loss. Your choice.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:56 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:Oh...is this going to be locked? >.<

Maybe or I could merge them. The poll will disappear but since it only concerns picking a name for the thread that doesn't seem like a big loss. Your choice.


Please merge them.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:57 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Maybe or I could merge them. The poll will disappear but since it only concerns picking a name for the thread that doesn't seem like a big loss. Your choice.


Please merge them.

Ha! I was wrong, the poll survived!
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

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Sanghyeok
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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:59 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
Please merge them.

Ha! I was wrong, the poll survived!


Thank you~
*Leaves strawberry parfait*
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Letavy
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Postby Letavy » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:59 am

I wish Asanuma-sama had lived :(

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Sanghyeok
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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:00 am

Letavy wrote:I wish Asanuma-sama had lived :(


Japan is not kind to socialists, unfortunately.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Letavy » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:05 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Letavy wrote:I wish Asanuma-sama had lived :(


Japan is not kind to socialists, unfortunately.

His Japanese nationalism was too based.

Compare to Yamaguchi: "They emphasized the need for solidarity with the United States and South Korea in the fight against communism. Their propaganda vans were decorated with the Stars and Stripes alongside the Japanese flag, and Akao once stated that Liancourt Rocks (Dokdo/Takeshima) should be blown up as it represents an obstacle to friendship with South Korea. A former party member, Otoya Yamaguchi, was responsible for the 1960 assassination of Inejiro Asanuma, the head of the Japanese Socialist Party, at a televised rally."

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Sanghyeok
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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:07 am

Letavy wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
Japan is not kind to socialists, unfortunately.

His Japanese nationalism was too based.

Compare to Yamaguchi: "They emphasized the need for solidarity with the United States and South Korea in the fight against communism. Their propaganda vans were decorated with the Stars and Stripes alongside the Japanese flag, and Akao once stated that Liancourt Rocks (Dokdo/Takeshima) should be blown up as it represents an obstacle to friendship with South Korea. A former party member, Otoya Yamaguchi, was responsible for the 1960 assassination of Inejiro Asanuma, the head of the Japanese Socialist Party, at a televised rally."


I've actually been to the place he was assassinated in Tokyo Station.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:34 am

Are you guys still having a feud with South Korea?
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Postby Kandorith » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:37 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Are you guys still having a feud with South Korea?

Asia always has a feud with other Asians. I think it is one of the laws of the universe.

On the name how about LDP Fun Land Or Suga's LDP Land, as I find them both quite hilarious. (LDP Land and Suga's Playland)
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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:13 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Are you guys still having a feud with South Korea?


"Koreans only team up with Japanese to laugh at China"
"Chinese only agree with South Koreans to laugh at Japan"
"Japanese only work with Chinese to laugh at Korea"
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Kandorith » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:15 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Are you guys still having a feud with South Korea?


"Koreans only team up with Japanese to laugh at China"
"Chinese only agree with South Koreans to laugh at Japan"
"Japanese only work with Chinese to laugh at Korea"


:rofl:

Funny because it's true.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:16 am

Kandorith wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
"Koreans only team up with Japanese to laugh at China"
"Chinese only agree with South Koreans to laugh at Japan"
"Japanese only work with Chinese to laugh at Korea"


:rofl:

Funny because it's true.


Ah, so that DPRJ belongs to you?
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Bienenhalde » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:18 am

Kandorith wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Are you guys still having a feud with South Korea?

Asia always has a feud with other Asians. I think it is one of the laws of the universe.

On the name how about LDP Fun Land Or Suga's LDP Land, as I find them both quite hilarious. (LDP Land and Suga's Playland)


Well, it wasn't really always that way. There used to be a time when all the surrounding countries paid tribute to the Chinese emperor. Well, Japan mostly maintained its independence, but they were still pretty strongly influenced by Chinese culture.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:19 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Kandorith wrote:Asia always has a feud with other Asians. I think it is one of the laws of the universe.

On the name how about LDP Fun Land Or Suga's LDP Land, as I find them both quite hilarious. (LDP Land and Suga's Playland)


Well, it wasn't really always that way. There used to be a time when all the surrounding countries paid tribute to the Chinese emperor. Well, Japan mostly maintained its independence, but they were still pretty strongly influenced by Chinese culture.


Hei'an and before.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Nihon no Tengoku » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:29 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Kandorith wrote:Asia always has a feud with other Asians. I think it is one of the laws of the universe.

On the name how about LDP Fun Land Or Suga's LDP Land, as I find them both quite hilarious. (LDP Land and Suga's Playland)


Well, it wasn't really always that way. There used to be a time when all the surrounding countries paid tribute to the Chinese emperor. Well, Japan mostly maintained its independence, but they were still pretty strongly influenced by Chinese culture.

That trend itself has been pretty off an on though. Korea, Japan, and a lot of the various central Asian hordes had fluctuating levels of deference to China, very often open hostility against China as well as one other.

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Postby Kandorith » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:33 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Kandorith wrote:
:rofl:

Funny because it's true.


Ah, so that DPRJ belongs to you?


Yes it does; a fun contrast to some other nations I have.
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Hikari Kyoyu Headlines:
BREAKING NEWS: LDP wins elections in landslide though Yoshiro Murakami will not return as prime minister they stated. | Latest technology showcased at the Empress Masumi Stadium as the January Tech Summit starts for the weekend | CDP claims LDP stole the election and will take legal steps against the election results

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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:34 am

Kandorith wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
Ah, so that DPRJ belongs to you?


Yes it does; a fun contrast to some other nations I have.


You might want to change the name of the anthem, right now it's not the Japanese name.

Anyways, back on topic: what reforms can we expect from PM Suga during their administration, if any?
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Kandorith » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:40 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Kandorith wrote:
Yes it does; a fun contrast to some other nations I have.


You might want to change the name of the anthem, right now it's not the Japanese name.

Anyways, back on topic: what reforms can we expect from PM Suga during their administration, if any?


Yea, I know haven't been writing on it yet so some stuff is just a placeholder copy-paste from the archives.

Anyway:

I don't know I think Suga might be a less hardliner than Abe. But honestly, I think he will stick to the path that has been laid out by Abe's administration. It is also near certain he will continue abenomics and the constitutional reforms(Which in all honesty I do not completely oppose).

I think it is too early to call what route he will be taking although his stance on zero emissions and such was quite a surprise, yet it will also mean Japan will have to either increase or modernize its nuclear power plants.
Great Empire of Kanyori | 大宮来国 | Arashi Kanyori Yokoku

Overview | Constitution | Anthem | Imperial Anthem | Armed Forces | Foreign Affairs | Emperor

Hikari Kyoyu Headlines:
BREAKING NEWS: LDP wins elections in landslide though Yoshiro Murakami will not return as prime minister they stated. | Latest technology showcased at the Empress Masumi Stadium as the January Tech Summit starts for the weekend | CDP claims LDP stole the election and will take legal steps against the election results

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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:40 pm

Kandorith wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
You might want to change the name of the anthem, right now it's not the Japanese name.

Anyways, back on topic: what reforms can we expect from PM Suga during their administration, if any?


Yea, I know haven't been writing on it yet so some stuff is just a placeholder copy-paste from the archives.

Anyway:

I don't know I think Suga might be a less hardliner than Abe. But honestly, I think he will stick to the path that has been laid out by Abe's administration. It is also near certain he will continue abenomics and the constitutional reforms(Which in all honesty I do not completely oppose).

I think it is too early to call what route he will be taking although his stance on zero emissions and such was quite a surprise, yet it will also mean Japan will have to either increase or modernize its nuclear power plants.


Please no more Abenomics.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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