You guy's aren't magically immune to the appeal of authoritarianism. FDR was one of the presidents who started this whole power without checks system.
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by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:16 am
by Kowani » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:21 am
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:23 am
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:29 am
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:You guy's aren't magically immune to the appeal of authoritarianism. FDR was one of the presidents who started this whole power without checks system.
Nobody is, but let’s not presume that all or even most of us would be willing to get down with authoritarianism, especially strawman “painted with a black fist and advocating diversity” authoritarianism.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:39 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
I'm saying if I had to choose. But I don't. I'm happy here on the Island Continent.
Did you know, the contiguous US and mainland Australia have very nearly the same land area?
Yes. Though I'm not going to pretend I'm good at geography.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, this is actually pretty scary and I doubt the Supreme Court is going to check these powers and neither will the useless congress.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:45 am
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:48 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:If it's your guy, you'd probably roll with it.
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Not saying all of you will, but probably more than you'd like to admit.
The Reformed American Republic wrote: Plus, it's not like I only singled you guys out.
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:56 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Tell me, do the "essential" rights include those not to be individually taxed (16th amendment 1909)? How about the right not to be searched without warrant (PATRIOT act 2001)?
You're behind enemy lines already. You're not going to fight, obviously. You grew up behind the lines. It might be time to surrender, you know, not because it's honorable which it is, but just to save your own ass?
Well, to conservatives, all they care about is abortion and low taxes. American liberals aren't much better. Paint a black fist on authoritarianism with support for "diversity" and they'd support it.
To me, I think being searched without a warrant is much worse than being taxed. Regardless, I'm still going to be critical of the status quo as we're not a dictatorship... yet. If things get really bad, I'd probably just move. I have Irish and English ancestry. Maybe I'll try to move to one of those places.
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Yes, this is a problem, though I'm not surprised that this exists. People are completely willing to give up essential rights and ironically some of the supposed "freedom" defenders would be the first to give it up.
by Kubra » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:57 am
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:16 am
Cisairse wrote:But the existence of the PEADs was not previously known to the public.
by Freiheit Reich » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:18 am
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:22 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Well, to conservatives, all they care about is abortion and low taxes. American liberals aren't much better. Paint a black fist on authoritarianism with support for "diversity" and they'd support it.
To me, I think being searched without a warrant is much worse than being taxed. Regardless, I'm still going to be critical of the status quo as we're not a dictatorship... yet. If things get really bad, I'd probably just move. I have Irish and English ancestry. Maybe I'll try to move to one of those places.The Reformed American Republic wrote:Yes, this is a problem, though I'm not surprised that this exists. People are completely willing to give up essential rights and ironically some of the supposed "freedom" defenders would be the first to give it up.
Supposed Freedom Defenders = Conservatives
I also mentioned conservatives.
I didn't single out progressives.
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:26 am
by Freiheit Reich » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:27 am
Albrenia wrote:What's 'the squad'?
by Albrenia » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:28 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Albrenia wrote:What's 'the squad'?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Squad ... s_Congress)The Squad is the informal name for a group of four women elected in the 2018 United States House of Representatives elections, made up of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. All are women of color under 50,[1] have been supported by the Justice Democrats political action committee, and are on the left wing of the Democratic Party.[2][3] All four hold safe seats in the House of Representatives, with Cook PVIs of at least D+26.
The group has been said to represent the demographic diversity of a younger political generation and the advocacy of progressive policies such as the Green New Deal, which have sometimes clashed with their party's leadership.[4][5][6][7] Ocasio-Cortez coined the "Squad" name in an Instagram post a week after the 2018 election. The photo, taken at a VoteRunLead event where all four members spoke, subsequently went viral.[8]
by Li Jing » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:30 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:38 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Tell me, do the "essential" rights include those not to be individually taxed (16th amendment 1909)? How about the right not to be searched without warrant (PATRIOT act 2001)?
You're behind enemy lines already. You're not going to fight, obviously. You grew up behind the lines. It might be time to surrender, you know, not because it's honorable which it is, but just to save your own ass?
Well, to conservatives, all they care about is abortion and low taxes. American liberals aren't much better. Paint a black fist on authoritarianism with support for "diversity" and they'd support it.
To me, I think being searched without a warrant is much worse than being taxed.
Regardless, I'm still going to be critical of the status quo as we're not a dictatorship... yet. If things get really bad, I'd probably just move. I have Irish and English ancestry. Maybe I'll try to move to one of those places.
by Newero » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:40 am
by Freiheit Reich » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:22 am
Newero wrote:The US constitution is a disgusting thing. I use toilet paper with it written on.
Constitutions are good, don't get me wrong, but the American one is severely outdated..
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:25 am
Newero wrote:The US constitution is a disgusting thing. I use toilet paper with it written on.
Constitutions are good, don't get me wrong, but the American one is severely outdated..
by Newero » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:31 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Newero wrote:The US constitution is a disgusting thing. I use toilet paper with it written on.
Constitutions are good, don't get me wrong, but the American one is severely outdated..
This is not true. The constitution is still very relevant. However, the big concern is the fact that many politicians agree with you and just want to grab power and trample freedoms today and don't care about the constitution. Why do you think it is outdated?
https://www.airtract.com/article/Why-Is ... 7-Reasons-
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:50 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Newero wrote:The US constitution is a disgusting thing. I use toilet paper with it written on.
Constitutions are good, don't get me wrong, but the American one is severely outdated..
This is not true. The constitution is still very relevant. However, the big concern is the fact that many politicians agree with you and just want to grab power and trample freedoms today and don't care about the constitution. Why do you think it is outdated?
https://www.airtract.com/article/Why-Is-The-Constitution-Important--7-Reasons-
by Chan Island » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:00 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Freiheit Reich » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:05 am
Newero wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
This is not true. The constitution is still very relevant. However, the big concern is the fact that many politicians agree with you and just want to grab power and trample freedoms today and don't care about the constitution. Why do you think it is outdated?
https://www.airtract.com/article/Why-Is ... 7-Reasons-
I mean, some people take the 1st ammendment way too far, the 2nd ammendment is just... yeah. I should've explained myself better. I do agree with a lot of it, but the ones people pay attention to are pretty outdated.
To be honest, I actually forgot some of the good stuff on it. My bad.
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