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by Reverend Norv » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:36 pm
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by Caltharus » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:39 pm
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by Revlona » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:47 pm
Caltharus wrote:Well i am willing to have Theo lose, he is after all the junior of them and likely just not as good. Going by the plan he formulated, we could have the attackers suffer pretty high casualties, but them still winning as the defending force guarding the planet was in the end too weak. So like Theo's tactics were succesful in punishing the enemy, but left too few forces actually holding the orbit they were defending.
What's your opinion on the matter?
by Wasi State » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:56 pm
by Caltharus » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm
Revlona wrote:Caltharus wrote:Well i am willing to have Theo lose, he is after all the junior of them and likely just not as good. Going by the plan he formulated, we could have the attackers suffer pretty high casualties, but them still winning as the defending force guarding the planet was in the end too weak. So like Theo's tactics were succesful in punishing the enemy, but left too few forces actually holding the orbit they were defending.
What's your opinion on the matter?
Well the problem I have with Theos tactic is that Shara would know your fleets numbers before hand and so would any enemy fleet that has been gathering in the same system
So just a quick scope of the force hovering above planet 5 would show that the entire enemy fleet was not there and would signal immediate red flags
Plus his plan basically relies on the enemy to charge head long into your waiting trap, discounting that space is 3 dimensional
by Revlona » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:05 pm
Caltharus wrote:Revlona wrote:
Well the problem I have with Theos tactic is that Shara would know your fleets numbers before hand and so would any enemy fleet that has been gathering in the same system
So just a quick scope of the force hovering above planet 5 would show that the entire enemy fleet was not there and would signal immediate red flags
Plus his plan basically relies on the enemy to charge head long into your waiting trap, discounting that space is 3 dimensional
Well those are fair points. I imagined that long distance radars wouldn't be that effective as to know exactly how many enemies there were, not at the standard engagement distance atleast.
As for the plan itself, i didn't mean that the defending forces from a two dimensional "V" shape. However it might have come of sounding like that due to me having some trouble describing 3d movement.
Then there is the trouble with defenders having a smaller force and a key location to defend whilst both know eachothers exact compositions. That in my opinion leaves very little room to act other than trying to do something to throw the larger force off.
by Union Princes » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:17 pm
by Remnants of Exilvania » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:21 pm
Union Princes wrote:Should I have Irene show up at the current senate meeting or the next?
by Caltharus » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:22 pm
Revlona wrote:
Radar wouldn't be the only way to spot your enemies, especially in dead space where you could literally see your enemy with cameras
Ok that clears it up however it still depends a lot upon your enemy charging headlong into it
Has it occurred to you that you are at a disadvantage on purpose? Shara is purposely forcing you to act unconventionally thanks to the situation, however just because she is forcing you to act unconventionally you can't rely on her acting conventionally and charging head first
by Revlona » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:28 pm
Caltharus wrote:Revlona wrote:
Radar wouldn't be the only way to spot your enemies, especially in dead space where you could literally see your enemy with cameras
Ok that clears it up however it still depends a lot upon your enemy charging headlong into it
Has it occurred to you that you are at a disadvantage on purpose? Shara is purposely forcing you to act unconventionally thanks to the situation, however just because she is forcing you to act unconventionally you can't rely on her acting conventionally and charging head first
As for the cameras, yeah those are a thing once ships get closer to each other, but didn't OP say that ships can duel at pretty extreme ranges?
The idea behind Theo's plan was that by pretending that when enemy vanguard comes scouting before the main fleet they engage it immediately with quite a lot of strength. Then they begin the somewhat sloppy first flanking manouver that hopefully would draw in enemies to counter that, which in turn hopefully would allow the third section to get into firing range on completely other side of the enemy forces.
The "killzone" that would form if everything went perfectly, would just be a position in space upon which the defenders could fire from several hugely different directions. It'd still be gigantic considering the ranges involved so the word killzone might be a bit misleading
by Caltharus » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm
Revlona wrote:
I don't see why cameras would only be used for close range, seeing as our ships could probably begin engaging the moment I leave the orbit of the first planet. That is the reason the fleet is hidden behind it.
There is also the fact that Theo is basing his plan on the assumption that the enemy will be sending in a vanguard the scout when they can clearly see his vessels the second they move from behind the first planet and vice versa.
The kill zone forming would also depend on how close I get, seeing as I could stand off and slug it out with your scattered fleet with a high chance of success thanks to how you've split it.
Anyways, Shara put him in a no win situation on purpose so don't feel bad with how I'm poking holes in his plan, i'd probably try something similar if in the same situation
by Revlona » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:43 pm
Caltharus wrote:Revlona wrote:
I don't see why cameras would only be used for close range, seeing as our ships could probably begin engaging the moment I leave the orbit of the first planet. That is the reason the fleet is hidden behind it.
There is also the fact that Theo is basing his plan on the assumption that the enemy will be sending in a vanguard the scout when they can clearly see his vessels the second they move from behind the first planet and vice versa.
The kill zone forming would also depend on how close I get, seeing as I could stand off and slug it out with your scattered fleet with a high chance of success thanks to how you've split it.
Anyways, Shara put him in a no win situation on purpose so don't feel bad with how I'm poking holes in his plan, i'd probably try something similar if in the same situation
I personally feel that while the opposing forces potentially could engage eachother the moment attackers leave the cover of the first planet, they wouldn't just see eachother. Like we're talking about the 1st and 5th planets in a solar system. What kind of an camera, even so far into the future can zoom in so far, let alone right to the exact spots the enemies are in.
Hence why i thought they'd send scouts to pinpoint the enemy location and find the easiest way to attack.
And no worries, i'm merely trying to explain my reasoning a little better. I think it was clear from the beginning that this would end badly for Theo, despite his IC confidence
by Imperialisium » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:44 pm
by Caltharus » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:50 pm
Imperialisium wrote:Cameras at engagement distances measured in millions of kilometers. Hilarious.
by Imperialisium » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:58 pm
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