FBI Thwarts Plot to Kidnap MI Gov, Now With Bonus Plots

[Aclion]

What cause does Trump have to do so? These guys think Trump is the enemy as much as Whitmer, him condemning them wouldn't do anything but give a platform to the misinformation campaign that this a s some right ring plot

[Albrenia]

What cause does Trump have to do so? These guys think Trump is the enemy as much as Whitmer, him condemning them wouldn't do anything but give a platform to the misinformation campaign that this a s some right ring plot

No, I don't think condemning people plotting to kidnap and possibly murder senators would give any air to the idea that it is a right wing plot. Refusing to do so might though.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

What cause does Trump have to do so? These guys think Trump is the enemy as much as Whitmer, him condemning them wouldn't do anything but give a platform to the misinformation campaign that this a s some right ring plot

Well I would say common human decency, but that's asking too much.

Trump condemning alleged right-wingers would (you say) forward the conspiracy theory that they ... are right-wingers.

Is that sarcasm? A parody of conspiracy theory double-think? Or actually what?

[Loben III]

Barely anyone I know did.

That’s sad.

shes not exactly popular around here if you cant tell.

[San Lumen]

That’s sad.

shes not exactly popular around here if you cant tell.

I dont like her either but I would never want to see her assassinated.

[Vassenor]

What cause does Trump have to do so? These guys think Trump is the enemy as much as Whitmer, him condemning them wouldn't do anything but give a platform to the misinformation campaign that this a s some right ring plot

You don't think Trump should call a terrorist plot against a state government a bad thing?

[Ifreann]

What cause does Trump have to do so? These guys think Trump is the enemy as much as Whitmer, him condemning them wouldn't do anything but give a platform to the misinformation campaign that this a s some right ring plot

It was some right wing plot.

[Washington Resistance Army]

What cause does Trump have to do so? These guys think Trump is the enemy as much as Whitmer, him condemning them wouldn't do anything but give a platform to the misinformation campaign that this a s some right ring plot

It was some right wing plot.

We've already gone over why this isn't an accurate statement though.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Ive been out of the loop since the initial news fell, what was their reasoning for trying to kidnap and kill her?

[Eukaryotic Cells]

Ive been out of the loop since the initial news fell, what was their reasoning for trying to kidnap and kill her?

They basically think she's a tyrant for implementing the COVID restrictions, among other things.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Ive been out of the loop since the initial news fell, what was their reasoning for trying to kidnap and kill her?

Broadly speaking both the original group of plotters and the militia they contacted view Whitmer as a fascist.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Ive been out of the loop since the initial news fell, what was their reasoning for trying to kidnap and kill her?

Broadly speaking both the original group of plotters and the militia they contacted view Whitmer as a fascist.

Oh for fucks sake

Ive been out of the loop since the initial news fell, what was their reasoning for trying to kidnap and kill her?

They basically think she's a tyrant for implementing the COVID restrictions, among other things.

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[Eukaryotic Cells]

From Wikipedia, the infallible fount of all human knowledge.

Joseph Morrison is considered the leader of the Wolverine Watchmen.[34] His home in Munith, which he shared with Musico, was used as a training site, according to Michigan Assistant Attorney General Gregory Townsend. Photographs of the home show a Confederate battle flag and a variation of the U.S. flag with alternating, vertical red and white stripes and a circle of stars surrounding the words "Liberty or Death".[23][35] Morrison's neighbors told The Daily Beast that the home's residents were "disrespectful" and said large groups regularly gathered there on weekends, whereupon gunfire would be heard.[23] His online alias was "Boogaloo Bunyan".[35] Morrison had served in the U.S. Marine Corps since 2015, most recently with the 4th Marine Logistics Group in Battle Creek, Michigan.[36]

Adam Fox had been living in the basement of his former employer, a vacuum repair shop in Grand Rapids. He received permission for that living arrangement from the shop's owner who felt empathy towards Fox, as Fox was homeless and had dogs. The basement was used to hold one of the group's meetings.[37][38] Fox posted a YouTube video in June, mentioning Whitmer's handling of the pandemic as one of his motives for the plot.[2] According to his employer, Fox espoused anti-police and anti-government views, along with support for the boogaloo movement, and had recently become worried about the U.S. becoming a communist country and Democratic politicians taking away his guns.[37] Fox had previously been a member of another militia group called the Michigan Home Guard, but he was kicked out due to "rage issues" and threatening other members on social media.[39]

Barry Croft's of social media accounts depicted him wearing a tricorne and a sweatshirt with an insignia associated with the Three Percenters militia group. He expressed support for the Russia investigation origins counter-narrative and opposition to the country's current immigration policy, and he believed the investigations into President Trump constituted an "uprising".[26] He was living in Bear, Delaware at the time of his arrest.[40] Croft was arrested multiple times from 1994 to 1996 for assault and burglary. He was convicted in 1997 for possessing a gun in the commission of a felony and spent three years in prison. In April 2019, Croft was pardoned for the conviction, as well as the prior assault and burglary charges, by Delaware Governor John Carney.[29][40]

Daniel Harris served in the U.S. Marine Corps from 2014 to June 2019, most recently at Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in Jacksonville, North Carolina.[36][41] The group met at his home in Lake Orion on August 23 to discuss the plot.[42]

Brandon Caserta was depicted wearing a Hawaiian-style shirt associated with the boogaloo movement in a TikTok video; and on Facebook, he praised Kyle Rittenhouse, a civilian who shot and killed two protesters during unrest in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Caserta was also a COVID-19 denier and supported the QAnon conspiracy theory;[43] however, in one video, he criticized President Trump and called him a tyrant.[44] His belief system apparently became more extreme following Whitmer's implementation of the statewide lockdown. His social media activity originally consisted of posts about comedy shows and podcasts, motivational quotes, and selfies; but following the lockdown, he began "liking" posts about conspiracy theories regarding Bill Gates, as well as memes about hogtying police officers.[26]

Pete Musico was active on YouTube, where he posted video blogs against taxes, gun control, and the so-called deep state. A video posted in 2019, entitled "Gretchen Whitmer Interview", depicted him railing against her policies around automobile ownership. Musico was also active on Gab, where he promoted the unfounded claim that there is an ongoing campaign to kill white people in South Africa. He also followed the accounts of Proud Boys organizer Joe Biggs and InfoWars personality Owen Shroyer. On Twitter, he expressed support for Trump and conspiracy theories regarding Bill and Hillary Clinton, and the high presence of mercury in vaccines.[23]

Michael and William Null, twin brothers, were also former members of another militia group called Michigan Liberty Militia.[39] They were photographed at a protest held by Michigan United for Liberty, a right-wing group protesting against Whitmer's COVID-19 lockdown orders, at the Michigan State Capitol on April 30.[45] William also attended another anti-lockdown rally in May, as well as Black Lives Matter rallies in Grand Rapids and Flint, according to Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf. The Null brothers later helped conduct surveillance on Whitmer's vacation home.[46] William was also photographed at a February 2017 protest against President Trump's Executive Order 13769, held by the Equality Caucus of Genesee County in Flint. He and members of the Michigan Liberty Militia were counter-protesting while wearing military fatigues, carrying firearms, and waving a Gadsden flag. William also allegedly made threats against the protesters on Facebook.[47]

Paul Bellar, who was arrested in Columbia, South Carolina, where he had moved from Milford over the summer after an eviction, was allegedly responsible for designing the tactical training exercises used by the Wolverine Watchmen.[35] Bellar's former neighbor in Milford said the pandemic caused him to lose his job and called him a "very angry person" and said he threatened her with a gun after a run-in with him.[48] According to Bellar's father, he trained for the U.S. Army at Fort Jackson for a year before being discharged in 2019 with a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder.[49]

Brian Higgins was a resident of Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin, when he was arrested on October 15.[50] He is alleged to have provided his night-vision goggles and dashcam to help conduct surveillance on Whitmer's home.[51]

They sound like a proper band of misfits.

[Senkaku]

It was some right wing plot.

We've already gone over why this isn't an accurate statement though.

What would you characterize it as then, if not a far right plot?

[Washington Resistance Army]

We've already gone over why this isn't an accurate statement though.

What would you characterize it as then, if not a far right plot?

An anti-statist plot devised and carried out (or, rather, planend to be carried out) by libertarians from across the political spectrum.

[Vassenor]

Shit like this is why if anyone claims that stochastic terrorism isn't a thing, I just look at them and laugh.

And I await the swarm of "but he didn't use the exact words" as though "will no-one rid me of this turbulent priest" isn't a call to action.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

What would you characterize it as then, if not a far right plot?

An anti-statist plot devised and carried out (or, rather, planend to be carried out) by libertarians from across the political spectrum.

The Null brothers attended a BLM rally, but the others are Boogaloo from central casting. If there's one thing they all have in common, it's being heavily into guns.

[Ifreann]

It was some right wing plot.

We've already gone over why this isn't an accurate statement though.

That some of the right wing militia also don't like Trump doesn't make it not a right wing plot.

[West Leas Oros 2]

An anti-statist plot devised and carried out (or, rather, planend to be carried out) by libertarians from across the political spectrum.

The Null brothers attended a BLM rally, but the others are Boogaloo from central casting. If there's one thing they all have in common, it's being heavily into guns.

The Cursed Coalition.

[His Excellence]

Shit like this is why if anyone claims that stochastic terrorism isn't a thing, I just look at them and laugh.

And I await the swarm of "but he didn't use the exact words" as though "will no-one rid me of this turbulent priest" isn't a call to action.

People have been screaming about impeaching and arresting Trump since before he was sworn into office, along with constructing false scandals to justify it. But suddenly it's terrorism and he's the bad guy when he says people should be arrested for things they did?

[Vassenor]

Shit like this is why if anyone claims that stochastic terrorism isn't a thing, I just look at them and laugh.

And I await the swarm of "but he didn't use the exact words" as though "will no-one rid me of this turbulent priest" isn't a call to action.

People have been screaming about impeaching and arresting Trump since before he was sworn into office, along with constructing false scandals to justify it. But suddenly it's terrorism and he's the bad guy when he says people should be arrested for things they did?

Well you completely missed the point there. Also not sure what the Governor would need to be arrested for here.