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by Empire of Techkotal » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:20 am
by Arvenia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:00 am
Empire of Techkotal wrote:If someone wants it Prussia and northern Germany are open or you could go with the Dutch.
by Of Leben » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:12 pm
by Arvenia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:51 pm
by Tracian Empire » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:57 pm
Of Leben wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Brazilian Empire
Territory: All of historical Brazil
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*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.
by Tracian Empire » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:59 pm
Arvenia wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Kingdom of Prussia
Territory: Elerian's Germany (without Swabia, Netherlands, most of Belgium and parts of Brazil), Eupen-Malmédy, Western Belarus and Western Sahara (what's left of it)
Map Color: Yellow Green
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*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.
by Arvenia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:01 pm
Tracian Empire wrote:Arvenia wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Kingdom of Prussia
Territory: Elerian's Germany (without Swabia, Netherlands, most of Belgium and parts of Brazil), Eupen-Malmédy, Western Belarus and Western Sahara (what's left of it)
Map Color: Yellow Green
#AltDiv (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.
Western Belarus is unfortunately not free, and I'm not yet sure about Eupen-Malmédy, but the rest is accepted
by Alt Div Admin » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:15 pm
by Alt Div Admin » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:21 pm
by Arvenia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:39 pm
by Tracian Empire » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:44 pm
by Arvenia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:50 pm
Tracian Empire wrote:What's the divergence then? What's alternate?
From a cursory look, this is literally Prussia, with Frederick III surviving, but other than that, it doesn't seem to have anything alternate in the concept other than what the nations around you demand with their existence and history (no German unification).
by Tracian Empire » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:54 pm
Arvenia wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:What's the divergence then? What's alternate?
From a cursory look, this is literally Prussia, with Frederick III surviving, but other than that, it doesn't seem to have anything alternate in the concept other than what the nations around you demand with their existence and history (no German unification).
I guess I can figure it out in the meanwhile or seek assistance from other players with German history. I can remove the German unification part and replace it with something else like making Prussia a powerhouse.
by Arvenia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:58 pm
Tracian Empire wrote:Arvenia wrote:I guess I can figure it out in the meanwhile or seek assistance from other players with German history. I can remove the German unification part and replace it with something else like making Prussia a powerhouse.
That's not how alt-history roleplays like ours work though.
You need a point of divergence, a chance, some sort of a deviation from real life, and you need to have it as part as your app and your concept, not solely as a consequence of others. You need to somehow make Prussia be different than how it was in real life.
by Elerian » Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:38 pm
by Empire of Techkotal » Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:40 pm
by The Traansval » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:57 am
by Arvenia » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:08 am
The Traansval wrote:
I'd like to offer some friendly suggestions since the CO-OPs are asking you to be more alternate. Heres some off the top of my head;
Prussian or North German Republic, possibly derived from the 1848 or 1848 style revolutions or from the Hanseatics.
North Germany united under a non-Hohenzollern, maybe the Hannoverians who historically were also the ruling house of Britain at this time. Could be done multiple ways with an alternate North german monarchy either being dominant or maybe sharing power in a Dual-monarchy with Prussia or as a German Empire style Imperial Federal monarchy.
Maybe research the Carolingian dynasty and think about them continuing on and maybe still being in power through a cadet branch.
A German Confederation with no real single leader made up of various Republics, Theocracies, Monarchies, etc. much like the HRE and OTL German Confederation but more of a actual nation.
by The Traansval » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:28 am
Arvenia wrote:The Traansval wrote:
I'd like to offer some friendly suggestions since the CO-OPs are asking you to be more alternate. Heres some off the top of my head;
Prussian or North German Republic, possibly derived from the 1848 or 1848 style revolutions or from the Hanseatics.
North Germany united under a non-Hohenzollern, maybe the Hannoverians who historically were also the ruling house of Britain at this time. Could be done multiple ways with an alternate North german monarchy either being dominant or maybe sharing power in a Dual-monarchy with Prussia or as a German Empire style Imperial Federal monarchy.
Maybe research the Carolingian dynasty and think about them continuing on and maybe still being in power through a cadet branch.
A German Confederation with no real single leader made up of various Republics, Theocracies, Monarchies, etc. much like the HRE and OTL German Confederation but more of a actual nation.
Would you like Prussia being ruled by either a different royal house or a republican government?
by Empire of Techkotal » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:37 am
by Arvenia » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:41 am
Empire of Techkotal wrote:Ha didn't think someone would just grab northern Germany so fast, though I did post that map to get someone. My only current problem is that I would have wanted an access to the sea. I made this map to get someone else into Prussia and then discuss the territorial dispute. So I'm now writing to Thrace. If that accursed vampire accepts me bowing before him and gives me Belgium I would like to get some of the eastern parts of the Rhine + Luxemburg to connect them. I think you might maybe if you explain it and go with a constitutional monarchy / republic thing get the Netherlands.
by Of Leben » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:42 am
by Empire of Techkotal » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:42 am
by Arvenia » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:43 am
Empire of Techkotal wrote:Well to be honest we can actually leave the 30 years war out, than both of us are stronger in the long turn and can justify more and the Netherlands becoming its own nation would be nearly impossible.
by Empire of Techkotal » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:44 am
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