2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[New haven america]

Healthcare reform is a pretty common view amongst younger Republicans.

I think the healthcare system should change but the government shouldn’t control it, because a powerful government ends up turning authoritarian

Yes, as we know Western and Central Europe are living under the tyranny of... affordable medications and surgery.

As you would know because you live in a North-West Euro-American country.

[San Lumen]

Of course I can but this self centered attitude of yours is why Trump won in the first place.

Bullshit.

He only won Michigan by 10000 votes, Pennsylvania by a little over 44000, and Wisconsin by about 23000 votes.

[Dresderstan]

Bullshit.

He only won Michigan by 10000 votes, Pennsylvania by a little over 44000, and Wisconsin by about 23000 votes.

So, maybe if Clinton actually fucking tried to keep them in the blue column instead of wasting time, money, resources and votes in California and New York she could have won. But sure keep going on about how not voting caused Trump to win.

[San Lumen]

He only won Michigan by 10000 votes, Pennsylvania by a little over 44000, and Wisconsin by about 23000 votes.

So, maybe if Clinton actually fucking tried to keep them in the blue column instead of wasting time, money, resources and votes in California and New York she could have won. But sure keep going on about how not voting caused Trump to win.

what are you talking about? Not voting is why Trump won.

[Valrifell]

He only won Michigan by 10000 votes, Pennsylvania by a little over 44000, and Wisconsin by about 23000 votes.

So, maybe if Clinton actually fucking tried to keep them in the blue column instead of wasting time, money, resources and votes in California and New York she could have won. But sure keep going on about how not voting caused Trump to win.

Do you understand where the time, money, and resources go when campaigning? Trying to get people to vote! So by the strictest sense saying that she lost those states because people didn't vote is accurate.

[Dresderstan]

So, maybe if Clinton actually fucking tried to keep them in the blue column instead of wasting time, money, resources and votes in California and New York she could have won. But sure keep going on about how not voting caused Trump to win.

Do you understand where the time, money, and resources go when campaigning? Trying to get people to vote! So by the strictest sense saying that she lost those states because people didn't vote is accurate.

Or maybe she didn't convince enough voters to vote for her.

[San Lumen]

Do you understand where the time, money, and resources go when campaigning? Trying to get people to vote! So by the strictest sense saying that she lost those states because people didn't vote is accurate.

Or maybe she didn't convince enough voters to vote for her.

I think sexism was a factor as well and thet people;e couldn't be bothered voting

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Good healthcare without corporate tyranny? We might as well invite Hitler to lead us!


No wonder the Democrats have so little momentum if they're off trying to get votes in Iceland! You sure got them, epic troll Karelia!

America did offer to buy Iceland in a Greenland+Iceland Package deal in the 1800's.

But that didn't happen so I don't see why a Dem advocate would advocate in Iceland.

American citizens overseas I would say ... if it was the UK or Germany.

https://www.aaro.org/about-aaro/8m-americans-abroad

Mexico and Canada surely. But Iceland isn't completely ridiculous, since what would make campaigning door to door worthwhile is (a) the state in which the American is still registered to vote, and (b) the percentage of local population who are eligible American voters.

[Telconi]

I'll believe it when I fucking see it, I can wait a month, can you?

Of course I can but this self centered attitude of yours is why Trump won in the first place.

So why are you so self centered then?

[Kannap]

Well we aren’t preventing any of that now so...

if Trump steals the election and and the GOP seems intent on doing that none of it matters. Normalcy will never return and nor will international travel and the death spiral of democracy and the planet will be begin.

It's already begun, and that you don't see that is the "it'll be too late" problem.

[San Lumen]

if Trump steals the election and and the GOP seems intent on doing that none of it matters. Normalcy will never return and nor will international travel and the death spiral of democracy and the planet will be begin.

It's already begun, and that you don't see that is the "it'll be too late" problem.

If we have a record high turnout and a clear victory they wont be able too.

[Valrifell]

Do you understand where the time, money, and resources go when campaigning? Trying to get people to vote! So by the strictest sense saying that she lost those states because people didn't vote is accurate.

Or maybe she didn't convince enough voters to vote for her.

You do realize that it's not the same identitcal ~40% of the country that votes, right? This cabal doesn't shift for fun. No, that's ridiculous, instead of creating Obama -> Trump voters, Clinton created Obama -> No voters and Trump brought in more people to his base.

[Telconi]

It's already begun, and that you don't see that is the "it'll be too late" problem.

If we have a record high turnout and a clear victory they wont be able too.

There's no such thing as a clear victory.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Or maybe she didn't convince enough voters to vote for her.

I think sexism was a factor as well and thet people;e couldn't be bothered voting

I don't bother mentioning sexism, since it's impossible to prove. Also, Clinton actually came second in the White Women vote.

Yeah, that's a puzzle. Obviously she did very well with Black Women, so it's almost as though racism (in policy) played more of a part than gender (in the candidates).

[San Lumen]

Of course I can but this self centered attitude of yours is why Trump won in the first place.

So why are you so self centered then?

How am i self centered?

If we have a record high turnout and a clear victory they wont be able too.

There's no such thing as a clear victory.

Yes there is.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Only predictable in the sense that they’ll do whatever they can to make a profit. If they see taking your right to speech or even taking your guns away as a good way to make more profit then they’re certainly gonna try and do that, and with significantly less accountability than a government (especially if the government is no more and corporations have taken its place) they’ll hire as many McMercenaries as it takes to gain compliance in the event you resist.

So basically in a worst case scenario the corporation will be as hostile to me as the government?

Implying they aren’t already as hostile to you as the government.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

If we have a record high turnout and a clear victory they wont be able too.

There's no such thing as a clear victory.

What a bizarre thing to say. Are you buying into Trump's "if I lose that means the election was rigged" rhetoric?

[Kannap]

It's already begun, and that you don't see that is the "it'll be too late" problem.

If we have a record high turnout and a clear victory they wont be able too.

We'll see.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

So basically in a worst case scenario the corporation will be as hostile to me as the government?

Implying they aren’t already as hostile to you as the government.

Assuming that they are, who would want the two united in common cause against the workers? Union busting, terrible minimum wage that doesn't even apply to some jobs, health insurance tied to employment ... etc?

[Jerzylvania]

They care about it when it's up, shrug their shoulders when it's down.

Yes. Following Trump is like magic. You need to believe in order for it to work.

There is a Micky Mouse Club aspect to it. As if Donald Duck took it over then had Mickey sent into exile. Peter Pan and Tinkerbell became Secretary of State and AG but soon got sick of his shit plans and quit.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Of course I can but this self centered attitude of yours is why Trump won in the first place.

So why are you so self centered then?

I see it more as San Lumen making proper disclosure of his vested interest. He wants to move back to a big city and enjoy some night-life, therefore he is (hopefully temporarily) taking the Republican side on lockdowns.

I don't agree at all, but I do respect that SL discloses his personal motivation for taking what is inescapably a political position.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Well we aren’t preventing any of that now so...

if Trump steals the election and and the GOP seems intent on doing that none of it matters. Normalcy will never return and nor will international travel and the death spiral of democracy and the planet will be begin.

Guess what? President Trump and the Republicans are concerned of potential Democrat vote fraud of any kind. I know you have been posting all these Polls showing Biden leading by considerable margins in almost all the states. most states or many states.

If your Polls are not right for whatever reasons, and the election is close and the election is a contested election by President Trump.

President Trump and the Republicans are concerned the Democrats are going to be the one's trying to steal this election from President Trump.

1 - Do you think it is just the Democrats concerned about this?
Yes or No? and you may add your comments, your opinions and your views?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Yes. Following Trump is like magic. You need to believe in order for it to work.

There is a Micky Mouse Club aspect to it. As if Donald Duck took it over then had Mickey sent into exile. Peter Pan and Tinkerbell became Secretary of State and AG but soon got sick of his shit plans and quit.

Jeff Sessions as Tinkerbell? Wow is that a bad casting choice!

[Northern Davincia]

Implying they aren’t already as hostile to you as the government.

Assuming that they are, who would want the two united in common cause against the workers? Union busting, terrible minimum wage that doesn't even apply to some jobs, health insurance tied to employment ... etc?

Uhh...
No comment.

[Telconi]

So basically in a worst case scenario the corporation will be as hostile to me as the government?

Implying they aren’t already as hostile to you as the government.

No, I'm excitedly saying they're not as hostile to me as the government.