Yeah but they taxed us at insane rates. Also dissent was seen as treason. And the Church of England ran almost everything. So we made freedom of speech and separation of religion and the state.
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by Atheris » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:07 pm
by New Jeferopholletopia » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:23 pm
Minskiev wrote:New Jeferopholletopia wrote:
What do you mean? Like Native American? I know that a couple are from the Cado tribe.
If, say, an Indian student was studying abroad, and is a citizen, they’d be an American, but culturally, they’d be Indian. It doesn’t make sense to listen to non-Americans about an important American decision, just like we don’t let...Uzbek people in Uzbekistan, for example, vote in elections. Note that I said in Uzbekistan.
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by Minskiev » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:51 pm
New Jeferopholletopia wrote:Minskiev wrote:
If, say, an Indian student was studying abroad, and is a citizen, they’d be an American, but culturally, they’d be Indian. It doesn’t make sense to listen to non-Americans about an important American decision, just like we don’t let...Uzbek people in Uzbekistan, for example, vote in elections. Note that I said in Uzbekistan.
So, how you do define an American? Do they have to be White?
And how do you define American culture? Is it just White culture from Europe or is it Native American culture? What about Latinos, Asians, and Black people and their cultures? America is diverse.
by Czechostan » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:52 pm
by New Jeferopholletopia » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:53 pm
Minskiev wrote:New Jeferopholletopia wrote:
So, how you do define an American? Do they have to be White?
And how do you define American culture? Is it just White culture from Europe or is it Native American culture? What about Latinos, Asians, and Black people and their cultures? America is diverse.
Alright, let’s see how simple I can make this.
Human not born in America. Human go to America. Human become American. Human practice not American traditions. Human American. Human practice not American culture.
America’s a land of immigrants.
by Minskiev » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:56 pm
New Jeferopholletopia wrote:Minskiev wrote:
Alright, let’s see how simple I can make this.
Human not born in America. Human go to America. Human become American. Human practice not American traditions. Human American. Human practice not American culture.
America’s a land of immigrants.
What are American traditions? Like Native American rituals?
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:57 pm
by New Jeferopholletopia » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:01 pm
Minskiev wrote:New Jeferopholletopia wrote:
What are American traditions? Like Native American rituals?
Sure. Some prominent pieces of culture also include, but are not limited to:
Gumbo
Fried chicken
The Pledge or Allegiance
Gun rights
Relatively free markets
Elections
The American flag
The bald eagle
I’m not sure why you’re trying your hardest to make me look like some cultural bad guy, or whatever. We’re not even arguing and you’re trying to commit a logical fallacy.
by Atheris » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:05 pm
New Jeferopholletopia wrote:Minskiev wrote:Sure. Some prominent pieces of culture also include, but are not limited to:
Gumbo
Fried chicken
The Pledge or Allegiance
Gun rights
Relatively free markets
Elections
The American flag
The bald eagle
I’m not sure why you’re trying your hardest to make me look like some cultural bad guy, or whatever. We’re not even arguing and you’re trying to commit a logical fallacy.
My best friend was born in America and served in the Marine Corps for 8 years. He is a vegetarian (no gumbo or fried chicken for him), is opposed to capitalism, and is in favor of gun control. Is he un-American even though he was born here and was a marine for 8 years?
by The Black Forrest » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:05 pm
by Atheris » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:06 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:If you are going to rename the state of Washington, you have to rename Washington DC.
Call it Omashu and give it to me!
by The United Artherian Federation » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:08 pm
George Orwell wrote:Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. History has stopped.
by New Jeferopholletopia » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:09 pm
The United Artherian Federation wrote:"Rename this and rename that because x person did y thing therefore z which is named after them is a symbol of oppression!"
If we keep renaming stuff we're eventually going to live into a 1984 dystopia, with the past convoluted and ever changing. This quote from the book sums it up.George Orwell wrote:Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. History has stopped.
Renaming things does nothing to change what the person has or has not done.
by The United Artherian Federation » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:11 pm
New Jeferopholletopia wrote:The United Artherian Federation wrote:"Rename this and rename that because x person did y thing therefore z which is named after them is a symbol of oppression!"
If we keep renaming stuff we're eventually going to live into a 1984 dystopia, with the past convoluted and ever changing. This quote from the book sums it up.
Renaming things does nothing to change what the person has or has not done.
That's a good point. And a scary one.
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