Coronavirus Thread V: A Shot in the Arm (READ OP)

[Greed and Death]

The best healthcare in the world isn’t going to matter if your economy is in ruins and people can’t pay taxes because they have no money

That's why all children must be sent to boarding schools from the ages of 2-18, so their parents can go to work.

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Finally we are the same page on vouchers.

[Farnhamia]

And this point it’s beyond control in the US and we should just end all restrictions. Starting from scratch will only destroy the economy completely and if our economy collapses so does the world

You've made a lot of bad arguments in this thread so far, but this one is by far the worst and the most dangerous.

I'll probably get flagged for this, but I don't care.
You're a toddler who wants to knock all his toys out of the pram because he doesn't want to eat his veggies.
Except in this case, the toys are actively killing people.

Just stfu and eat your damn broccoli.

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[The Black Forrest]

That's why all children must be sent to boarding schools from the ages of 2-18, so their parents can go to work.

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Finally we are the same page on vouchers.

Nah. The wealthy class can afford the schools just fine; they don’t need tax cuts.

[Kannap]

Ending all restrictions will literally kill millions of people and will also collapse the economy, probably worse even because now capitalists won't have a reserve army of labor with which to drive down wages and expand profits. Unchecked plague was how the fuedal era came to an end after all.

And we keep up things for much longer millions will be homeless, millions of children will fall behind in school, millions more will be hungry and countless businesses will be boarded up.


This isn’t Black Death and people need to stop treating it as such.

So what can we do as a society or, more specifically, what can (and should) our government do to prevent a homelessness crisis, make online schooling more accessible, and keep people safe?

If you don't want to answer that question, my other question is how many deaths are an acceptable exchange to reopen everything and return to pre-COVID normality?

[San Lumen]

And we keep up things for much longer millions will be homeless, millions of children will fall behind in school, millions more will be hungry and countless businesses will be boarded up.


This isn’t Black Death and people need to stop treating it as such.

So what can we do as a society or, more specifically, what can (and should) our government do to prevent a homelessness crisis, make online schooling more accessible, and keep people safe?

If you don't want to answer that question, my other question is how many deaths are an acceptable exchange to reopen everything and return to pre-COVID normality?

Studies have shown online schooling doesn’t work. Our government needs to stop controlling daily life because at this point it’s going to do more harm good. I don’t know what can be done to prevent a homeless crisis as nothing was though through whatsoever and now we are facing the consequences

You are never going to be able to prevent all deaths at this point. Its a impossible goal.

[Outer Sparta]

I dunno if you hadn't noticed but most of our "leaders" were, and are too busy trying to get everyone back to work to care about how they could have avoided food shortages, eviction waves, and other problems that will mostly affect the dirty poors. The gross mismanagement of the crisis is entirely to be laid at the feet of politicians who thought stabilizing the stock market was more important than actually ensuring the people could safely weather the crisis.

And this point it’s beyond control in the US and we should just end all restrictions. Starting from scratch will only destroy the economy completely and if our economy collapses so does the world

Ending all restrictions when the US hasn't even controlled the virus yet is quite idiotic.

[The Black Forrest]

Ending all restrictions will literally kill millions of people and will also collapse the economy, probably worse even because now capitalists won't have a reserve army of labor with which to drive down wages and expand profits. Unchecked plague was how the fuedal era came to an end after all.

And we keep up things for much longer millions will be homeless, millions of children will fall behind in school, millions more will be hungry and countless businesses will be boarded up.

Interesting. You sound like you are for the herd immunity nonsense. So tell me; what numbers will you find unacceptable for dead and infected?

This isn’t Black Death and people need to stop treating it as such.

Hmmm. I get the impression you would be saying the same things if the black death was here.

[The Black Forrest]

So what can we do as a society or, more specifically, what can (and should) our government do to prevent a homelessness crisis, make online schooling more accessible, and keep people safe?

If you don't want to answer that question, my other question is how many deaths are an acceptable exchange to reopen everything and return to pre-COVID normality?

Studies have shown online schooling doesn’t work. Our government needs to stop controlling daily life because at this point it’s going to do more harm good. I don’t know what can be done to prevent a homeless crisis as nothing was though through whatsoever and now we are facing the consequences

You are never going to be able to prevent all deaths at this point. Its a impossible goal.

What studies?

[Kannap]

So what can we do as a society or, more specifically, what can (and should) our government do to prevent a homelessness crisis, make online schooling more accessible, and keep people safe?

If you don't want to answer that question, my other question is how many deaths are an acceptable exchange to reopen everything and return to pre-COVID normality?

Studies have shown online schooling doesn’t work. Our government needs to stop controlling daily life because at this point it’s going to do more harm good. I don’t know what can be done to prevent a homeless crisis as nothing was though through whatsoever and now we are facing the consequences

You are never going to be able to prevent all deaths at this point. Its a impossible goal.

Nobodies trying to prevent all deaths, that's a stupid idea. We're trying to minimize deaths, which is an easily attainable goal.

Now I ask again, how many deaths are an acceptable exchange to reopen everything and return to pre-COVID normality? As in, how many people have to die before you consider it not worth reopening?

Also, yeah, citation needed.

[Necroghastia]

Ending all restrictions will literally kill millions of people and will also collapse the economy, probably worse even because now capitalists won't have a reserve army of labor with which to drive down wages and expand profits. Unchecked plague was how the fuedal era came to an end after all.

And we keep up things for much longer millions will be homeless, millions of children will fall behind in school, millions more will be hungry and countless businesses will be boarded up.


This isn’t Black Death and people need to stop treating it as such.

It's not the Black Death because of restrictions. Fucking duh.

You don't wanna see businesses boarded up? Then don't have them become centers of infection or have their owners fall ill. You don't want children to fall behind? Then embrace distance learning so less will have to stay home sick or worse.

I almost think you want a mass grave in every town, the way you talk.

[Loben III]

So what can we do as a society or, more specifically, what can (and should) our government do to prevent a homelessness crisis, make online schooling more accessible, and keep people safe?

If you don't want to answer that question, my other question is how many deaths are an acceptable exchange to reopen everything and return to pre-COVID normality?

Studies have shown online schooling doesn’t work. Our government needs to stop controlling daily life because at this point it’s going to do more harm good. I don’t know what can be done to prevent a homeless crisis as nothing was though through whatsoever and now we are facing the consequences

You are never going to be able to prevent all deaths at this point. Its a impossible goal.

so you want to release all restrictions.

during a pandemic which we dont know the full details of said virus.

[San Lumen]

And we keep up things for much longer millions will be homeless, millions of children will fall behind in school, millions more will be hungry and countless businesses will be boarded up.


This isn’t Black Death and people need to stop treating it as such.

It's not the Black Death because of restrictions. Fucking duh.

You don't wanna see businesses boarded up? Then don't have them become centers of infection or have their owners fall ill. You don't want children to fall behind? Then embrace distance learning so less will have to stay home sick or worse.

I almost think you want a mass grave in every town, the way you talk.

It never will be Black Death even if we lifted all restrictions.

What would you do shut everything down until there is a vaccine?

Many children aren’t attending online schooling. It simply doesn’t work

[Juristonia]

Studies have shown online schooling doesn’t work. Our government needs to stop controlling daily life because at this point it’s going to do more harm good. I don’t know what can be done to prevent a homeless crisis as nothing was though through whatsoever and now we are facing the consequences

You are never going to be able to prevent all deaths at this point. Its a impossible goal.

Nobodies trying to prevent all deaths, that's a stupid idea. We're trying to minimize deaths, which is an easily attainable goal.

Now I ask again, how many deaths are an acceptable exchange to reopen everything and return to pre-COVID normality? As in, how many people have to die before you consider it not worth reopening?

Also, yeah, citation needed.

You're going to die of old age before you get a straight answer on that one.

[Outer Sparta]

It's not the Black Death because of restrictions. Fucking duh.

You don't wanna see businesses boarded up? Then don't have them become centers of infection or have their owners fall ill. You don't want children to fall behind? Then embrace distance learning so less will have to stay home sick or worse.

I almost think you want a mass grave in every town, the way you talk.

It never will be Black Death even if we lifted all restrictions.

What would you do shut everything down until there is a vaccine?

Many children aren’t attending online schooling. It simply doesn’t work

Citation needed with the many children not attending online schooling part and the simply doesn't work part.

[Loben III]

It's not the Black Death because of restrictions. Fucking duh.

You don't wanna see businesses boarded up? Then don't have them become centers of infection or have their owners fall ill. You don't want children to fall behind? Then embrace distance learning so less will have to stay home sick or worse.

I almost think you want a mass grave in every town, the way you talk.

It never will be Black Death even if we lifted all restrictions.

What would you do shut everything down until there is a vaccine?

Many children aren’t attending online schooling. It simply doesn’t work

and putting them at risk, will?

[The Black Forrest]

It's not the Black Death because of restrictions. Fucking duh.

You don't wanna see businesses boarded up? Then don't have them become centers of infection or have their owners fall ill. You don't want children to fall behind? Then embrace distance learning so less will have to stay home sick or worse.

I almost think you want a mass grave in every town, the way you talk.

It never will be Black Death even if we lifted all restrictions.

Then why mention it?

What would you do shut everything down until there is a vaccine?

Unless I missed something; the life cycle is 2 weeks?

Many children aren’t attending online schooling. It simply doesn’t work

How many we talking here?

[Kannap]

Studies have shown online schooling doesn’t work. Our government needs to stop controlling daily life because at this point it’s going to do more harm good. I don’t know what can be done to prevent a homeless crisis as nothing was though through whatsoever and now we are facing the consequences

You are never going to be able to prevent all deaths at this point. Its a impossible goal.

so you want to release all restrictions.

during a pandemic which we dont know the full details of said virus.

The American economy cannot survive without people dying to keep it sustained. This has been true for a while but its difficult to hide it when faced with a virus that manages to hit our weaknesses.

[Kannap]

Nobodies trying to prevent all deaths, that's a stupid idea. We're trying to minimize deaths, which is an easily attainable goal.

Now I ask again, how many deaths are an acceptable exchange to reopen everything and return to pre-COVID normality? As in, how many people have to die before you consider it not worth reopening?

Also, yeah, citation needed.

You're going to die of old age before you get a straight answer on that one.

Won't stop me from asking the question.

[Kannap]

It's not the Black Death because of restrictions. Fucking duh.

You don't wanna see businesses boarded up? Then don't have them become centers of infection or have their owners fall ill. You don't want children to fall behind? Then embrace distance learning so less will have to stay home sick or worse.

I almost think you want a mass grave in every town, the way you talk.

It never will be Black Death even if we lifted all restrictions.

What would you do shut everything down until there is a vaccine?

Many children aren’t attending online schooling. It simply doesn’t work

You know what else doesn't work for schooling? Reopening the schools and then shutting down after a week or two because either (1) there's an outbreak in the school or (2) students start dying.

[Loben III]

so you want to release all restrictions.

during a pandemic which we dont know the full details of said virus.

The American economy cannot survive without people dying to keep it sustained. This has been true for a while but its difficult to hide it when faced with a virus that manages to hit our weaknesses.

last i checked the american economy is not some cruel god that requires human sacrifices in order for it to not smite humanity from existence. our grandfathers survived the fucking great depression for fucks sake, a little discomfort might do us some good.

[Kannap]

The American economy cannot survive without people dying to keep it sustained. This has been true for a while but its difficult to hide it when faced with a virus that manages to hit our weaknesses.

last i checked the american economy is not some cruel god that requires human sacrifices in order for it to not smite humanity from existence. our grandfathers survived the fucking great depression for fucks sake, a little discomfort might do us some good.

Hey, I'm not the one against mask wearing or quarantine or lockdowns here. If a little personal discomfort keeps more people alive, then I'm willing to do my part. Unfortunately, some people don't feel that way.

[Loben III]

last i checked the american economy is not some cruel god that requires human sacrifices in order for it to not smite humanity from existence. our grandfathers survived the fucking great depression for fucks sake, a little discomfort might do us some good.

Hey, I'm not the one against mask wearing or quarantine or lockdowns here. If a little personal discomfort keeps more people alive, then I'm willing to do my part. Unfortunately, some people don't feel that way.

fuck them, then. if they are willing to die why stop them?

[Kannap]

Hey, I'm not the one against mask wearing or quarantine or lockdowns here. If a little personal discomfort keeps more people alive, then I'm willing to do my part. Unfortunately, some people don't feel that way.

fuck them, then. if they are willing to die why stop them?

Sure, if they're willing to die that's their choice, such is the case with all risk taking. If you choose to zipline you face the risk that you fall to your death, if you choose to canoe, you face the risk of drowning. We can't stop people from risking their own lives, but unlike ziplining and canoeing, going out and acting as if things are normal despite COVID doesn't only risk your own life, it puts the lives of others at risk. Nobody has the right to risk another person's life.

[The Black Forrest]

Hey, I'm not the one against mask wearing or quarantine or lockdowns here. If a little personal discomfort keeps more people alive, then I'm willing to do my part. Unfortunately, some people don't feel that way.

fuck them, then. if they are willing to die why stop them?

If they would only die, sure. The problem is they bring others down with them.

[The Alma Mater]

Hey, I'm not the one against mask wearing or quarantine or lockdowns here. If a little personal discomfort keeps more people alive, then I'm willing to do my part. Unfortunately, some people don't feel that way.

fuck them, then. if they are willing to die why stop them?

Because they are drunk driving at 200mph through your neighbourhood.
Or simply put: because they are not risking merely their own health - they are playing with yours as well.