I love how Trump doesn't know one way or the other if John Lewis was impressive or not. How do you not know whether someone was impressive in your own opinion?
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by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:13 am
by Tombradyonia » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:15 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:"So then I refused to do anything else and continuously downplayed the threat of the virus and blamed Democrats for creating the hoax about the very real threat and only in the last few weeks even come around to the idea of masks. Leadership!"
I think Trump thinks most Americans are dumbasses. He thinks he can easily revise history and no one can just go on YouTube and watch a video of him in March saying "it's just the flu. Why should we care?"
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:12 am
Tombradyonia wrote:Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I think Trump thinks most Americans are dumbasses. He thinks he can easily revise history and no one can just go on YouTube and watch a video of him in March saying "it's just the flu. Why should we care?"
No, he's more like a Hugo Chavez or some communist leader of some country behind the Iron Curtain. The same pattern of lying. doubling down on lies and attacking those who call out the lies.
Also the same in terms of followers who would not question a word being said by the leader in question. Evidence be damned, science can go to hell, logic need not apply, the leader determines what is true and what is not.
The lies that were told by those leaders in those (now former) communist states sometimes reached such grotesque proportions that quite often you basically knew they didn't actually believe it themselves, they just told others to believe it. Trump does the same thing, even in petty ways such as the size of the inauguration crowd. You might think it is an innocent lie, but in reality it is part of a dangerous (authoritarian) pattern where speaking the truth can be considered a revolutionary act.
by The Black Forrest » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:14 am
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:15 am
by Tombradyonia » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:17 am
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:18 am
by Jedi Council » Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:25 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Jedi Council is in fact, the big gay... The lord of all gays.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:32 pm
Jedi Council wrote:Who in the Trump team thought that Axios interview was a good idea?
Just finished watching it; he comes off as a half literate ignoramus, even more so than usual.
by The Black Forrest » Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:49 pm
by The Black Forrest » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:52 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:02 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh my goodness. I finally watched the Swan interview. That was indeed a train wreck. Normally, I can only stomach Trump for only so much time. I ad to watch this to the finish.
I think I am now a fan of Swan.
by Liriena » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:57 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:Oh my goodness. I finally watched the Swan interview. That was indeed a train wreck. Normally, I can only stomach Trump for only so much time. I ad to watch this to the finish.
I think I am now a fan of Swan.
I can't watch him because no one pushes back on his utter bullshit so I end up yelling at the TV and then thinking, "Well crap, look at me..." so I don't watch. I'm still on the fence on whether I'm going to watch this one.
EDIT: Fuck it, I'm watching it.
EDIT the Second: Well, that was a half an hour of someone trying really hard to not go, "Jesus you're an idiot."
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by Galloism » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:59 pm
Liriena wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:I can't watch him because no one pushes back on his utter bullshit so I end up yelling at the TV and then thinking, "Well crap, look at me..." so I don't watch. I'm still on the fence on whether I'm going to watch this one.
EDIT: Fuck it, I'm watching it.
EDIT the Second: Well, that was a half an hour of someone trying really hard to not go, "Jesus you're an idiot."
Just the clip of Trump trying to make cases and death statistics look good was enough for me.
Jesus fuck what a pathetic sack of shit he is. The ultimate boomer. His brain is 99% foamy mush and 1% infantilism.
Anyone who still thinks he's some sort of strong, shrewd, badass leader is either delusional or just as hopelessly and arrogantly ignorant as he is.
by Proctopeo » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:00 pm
Galloism wrote:Liriena wrote:Just the clip of Trump trying to make cases and death statistics look good was enough for me.
Jesus fuck what a pathetic sack of shit he is. The ultimate boomer. His brain is 99% foamy mush and 1% infantilism.
Anyone who still thinks he's some sort of strong, shrewd, badass leader is either delusional or just as hopelessly and arrogantly ignorant as he is.
I think they don’t watch him. It’s straight up an “(R) Good. (D) Bad.” Mentality.
by Galloism » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:01 pm
by Liriena » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:05 pm
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by Proctopeo » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:26 pm
Liriena wrote:Proctopeo wrote:Though "our team good other team bad" is the fundamental essence of politics. We're just in a period where the pretense of nuance is being forgotten.
Here's the thing though... it's not a phenomenon evenly present and widespread on both sides of the political spectrum.
For all the talk about how "both sides are the same" or how the Bernie movement was as much a cult of personality as Trump's, history paints a very different picture. Lots of Bernie supporters openly disregard his calls to support Biden. Democratic voters tend to be pretty consistent about policy regardless of who's in charge (as in, they won't suddenly change their minds on, say, military intervention in Syria just because it's a Democrat or Republican doing it). Enthusiasm on the left for Biden is low despite the party apparatus' best efforts, while Republican enthusiasm for Trump remains high despite him blatantly and royally fucking up his response to the worst crisis in recent history.
by Liriena » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:29 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Liriena wrote:Here's the thing though... it's not a phenomenon evenly present and widespread on both sides of the political spectrum.
For all the talk about how "both sides are the same" or how the Bernie movement was as much a cult of personality as Trump's, history paints a very different picture. Lots of Bernie supporters openly disregard his calls to support Biden. Democratic voters tend to be pretty consistent about policy regardless of who's in charge (as in, they won't suddenly change their minds on, say, military intervention in Syria just because it's a Democrat or Republican doing it). Enthusiasm on the left for Biden is low despite the party apparatus' best efforts, while Republican enthusiasm for Trump remains high despite him blatantly and royally fucking up his response to the worst crisis in recent history.
You misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not going for any "lel followers of (politician I don't like) are brainwashed cultists, we're the only people who actually know what's going on" meme.
My point is, rather, that the belief that the "other side" is irredeemable and not even a viable option has become less and less disguised over the past few years. I've seen ever more people declare that they'll never, ever vote for the other party because a couple members of that party were stupid (while ignoring the same antics from your own camp). This is different from rejecting a party because one (or more) of their most common policies is one you fundamentally oppose.
Also fwiw the "cult of personality" thing was more Clinton than Sanders. See how they slandered Sanders' supporters, or how quickly a cartoon frog was declared the new Swastika
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by Kowani » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:31 pm
by Liriena » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:34 pm
Kowani wrote:I'm 10 minutes in, and this is anabsolute trainwreck.
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by Cannot think of a name » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:47 pm
by Farnhamia » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:50 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Liriena wrote:Wait until you get to Ghislaine Maxwell. Trump is remarkably unperturbed when it comes to child sex trafficking.
"Her boyfriend died..."
Her sex trafficking boyfriend died and she's under arrest for feeding that traffic you unbelievable boob.
I feel like that Lincoln Project video writes itself.
by Cannot think of a name » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:59 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:"Her boyfriend died..."
Her sex trafficking boyfriend died and she's under arrest for feeding that traffic you unbelievable boob.
I feel like that Lincoln Project video writes itself.
Everyone wanted to have their picture taken with Trump back then, you know, he was such a celebrity, so he really didn't know these people, they were always there, hangers-on, really.
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