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Postby The Orion Islands » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:52 pm

Xathuecia, you are the Republican state legislative leader in Nebraska, while Meelducan is the Democratic.
Nebraska has a unicameral legislature with 49 members. They are elected by a nonpartisan blanket primary. The top two vote getters advance to the general. They are also nonpartisan, although the two parties endorse candidates. The Republicans have 30 seats, the Democrats 18, and one independent. Keep in mind that many coalitions are issue based.
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Postby Velahor » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:01 pm

Jovuistan wrote:Imma tired, what’s been poppin today?


Paulson got 3+ new endorsers.

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Postby Sanabel » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:09 pm

Paulson’s regaining momentum means the dream of a contested GOP convention is returning
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:11 pm

Sanabel wrote:Paulson’s regaining momentum means the dream of a contested GOP convention is returning


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Postby Meelducan » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:14 pm

Sanabel wrote:Paulson’s regaining momentum means the dream of a contested GOP convention is returning

Honestly I think it would be a good thing for Paulson
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Meelducan wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Paulson’s regaining momentum means the dream of a contested GOP convention is returning

Honestly I think it would be a good thing for Paulson


It would. A clear win probably isn't in sight for her, a strong convention showing gives her power.
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Meelducan wrote:Honestly I think it would be a good thing for Paulson


It would. A clear win probably isn't in sight for her, a strong convention showing gives her power.

The same of course applies to Porter... It is not great for Richardson or Prendy though

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NS Nation Name: The World Capitalist Confederation
Character Name: Damian Hayes
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 44
Character Height: 165cm
Character Weight: 50kg
Character Position/Role/Job: Lobbyist at John Edwards, a New York Lobbying Firm
Appearance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lamo ... politician)#/media/File:Official_portrait_of_John_Lamont_MP_crop_2.jpg
Character State of Origin: New York
Character State of Residence: New York
Character Party Affiliation: Independent, Leans Democrat
Main Strengths: Well-connected, moderate, military experience, seen as reasonable.
Main Weaknesses: Lobbyist, establishment, stuck between both parties.
Biography: Born to Caroline Hayes (later Simone, and later Chairman of the Democratic Caucus and Speaker of the House) and George Hayes, Damian already started off life well-connected, although there was some early tension in his family, with his mother and father later getting divorced, resenting his mother due to this, and evolving his hard personality that he does today. As a child, he had always been somewhat withdrawn, perhaps due to his mother and father. He sank into a mild depression, mostly sticking to himself in school, although still doing his work and such, meaning his withdrawal had mostly been internal rather than external.

However, his father, having had an idea to fix his withdrawal, decided to send him over to the navy, which he accepted, hoping to find a cure for his soul-sickness. He spent his early days mostly doing training and exercises, eventually being deployed to Bosnia in the closing days of the war. He took to his deployment with an energy he hadn't felt since the divorce of his parents, enjoying his time in the navy as an aviator. However, while he did enjoy this time, he sadly was shot down over the town of Balatun, on the border of Serbia and Bosnia. His service on the field lasted no more than 3 months, as the plane crash had crippled his arm, leaving it limp for the rest of his life after a partial recovery.

After leaving the military with a medical discharge, he decided to take an education in law and political science, and whilst most of his costs were taken by the military, his mother - with a lot of grumbling from himself, as he didn't want to feel reliant but really needed it, ultimately - decided to cover the costs not covered by the military, something he was mildly grateful for but still rather angry inside at her for what he saw as her wrongdoing...

He first started off as an associate at John Edwards, working as a lobbyist, mostly spending his early years doing lobbying for small businesses, being handed off minor clients to test him when he fully got his own office. He first worked for centrist lobby groups, with his mother (unintentionally on his part) being used to justify hiring him, as his mother's connections worked handily to his favour even as he disregarded them.

His first main group was with the American Assembly, founded in 1950 by Dwight Eisenhower. It was a relatively minor group, and he mostly worked with state and local officials to ensure they listened to their ideas, and worked to ensure that Congressmen had bipartisan solutions. After 2005, however, he began to work with the Partnership for a Secure America, requested as such due to his mother's foreign policy experience. He pushed through their agenda, forming long-term bonds and relationships with several Congressmen, Senators, Governors and more.

He worked to build bipartisan relationships, and was decently skilled at doing so, ensuring that he would have allies on both sides of the political spectrum, although granted more towards the Democratic side but still nonetheless bipartisan. He worked to push a centrist agenda, sticking to his guns even as the asymmetrical polarisation of the GOP continued, trying to stick with those on the GOP who would still listen to him. As an independent, he voted for Clifford 1996, not-Gore 2000, Burke 2004, Baharia 2008, MItter 2012 and Clifford 2016. He still has PfaSA as a client, but works for the BPC as well.

Other Info: Has a wife, Mary, 41, and two children: George, 15 and Byron, 12. George is the elder of the two, planning to be an engineer, as he liked working with the physical and the tangible, and Byron is a computer kid, obsessed with the latest technologies and who plans to work in Silicon Valley. Mary was an accountant who he met in person through a friend, as she was the sister of said friend. She now stays at home, however.

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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:16 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
It would. A clear win probably isn't in sight for her, a strong convention showing gives her power.

The same of course applies to Porter... It is not great for Richardson or Prendy though


I think Prendy has the edge over Richardson in a contested convention but the big danger is a dark horse candidate.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:17 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:The same of course applies to Porter... It is not great for Richardson or Prendy though


I think Prendy has the edge over Richardson in a contested convention but the big danger is a dark horse candidate.

Porter and Paulson would have Prendergast and Richardson as hostages in that situation.
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:17 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
It would. A clear win probably isn't in sight for her, a strong convention showing gives her power.

The same of course applies to Porter... It is not great for Richardson or Prendy though


Prendergast is currently the unquestioned frontrunner, which is a dangerous situation to be in before anyone has even voted.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:18 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:The same of course applies to Porter... It is not great for Richardson or Prendy though


I think Prendy has the edge over Richardson in a contested convention but the big danger is a dark horse candidate.


I would agree Prendy has the backing of Volker, and that alone is able to tip the scales.

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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:18 pm

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:The same of course applies to Porter... It is not great for Richardson or Prendy though


Prendergast is currently the unquestioned frontrunner, which is a dangerous situation to be in before anyone has even voted.


It is, but I think he's weathering it well so far. Whether he can sustain that for the remaining four months until Iowa? God knows.
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Postby Velahor » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:20 pm

Sanabel wrote:Paulson’s regaining momentum means the dream of a contested GOP convention is returning


Nearly any scenario with Paulson outperforming expectations makes the contested convention more likely.

Throw that in with the fact that some of her supporters are the same Ron Paul supporters who were upset about rule changes at the 2012 convention, and we could be looking at not only a contested convention, but an extra-exciting one...
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Btw if there are no objections, I would like to host the Sippi debate

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:21 pm

Velahor wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Paulson’s regaining momentum means the dream of a contested GOP convention is returning


Nearly any scenario with Paulson outperforming expectations makes the contested convention more likely.

Throw that in with the fact that some of her supporters are the same Ron Paul supporters who were upset about rule changes at the 2012 convention, and we could be looking at not only a contested convention, but an extra-exciting one...

Ironically Porter and Paulson's fortunes are intertwined. The better one does the better the other does.

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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:22 pm

Velahor wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Paulson’s regaining momentum means the dream of a contested GOP convention is returning


Nearly any scenario with Paulson outperforming expectations makes the contested convention more likely.

Throw that in with the fact that some of her supporters are the same Ron Paul supporters who were upset about rule changes at the 2012 convention, and we could be looking at not only a contested convention, but an extra-exciting one...

Remember that both their bases (libertarians and the alt-right) are some of the most violent and well-armed political groups...

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Postby Velahor » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:23 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Meelducan wrote:Honestly I think it would be a good thing for Paulson


It would. A clear win probably isn't in sight for her, a strong convention showing gives her power.


The path for a “clear win” hinges on three potential endorsers.

A contested convention win would be dependent on who is the strongest among the other three.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:26 pm

Velahor wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
It would. A clear win probably isn't in sight for her, a strong convention showing gives her power.


The path for a “clear win” hinges on three potential endorsers.

A contested convention win would be dependent on who is the strongest among the other three.


Paulson is the only other candidate Prendergast could see himself backing, incidentally.
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Postby Velahor » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:29 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Velahor wrote:
The path for a “clear win” hinges on three potential endorsers.

A contested convention win would be dependent on who is the strongest among the other three.


Paulson is the only other candidate Prendergast could see himself backing, incidentally.


The ideal scenario for Paulson is a contested convention with her and Porter leading the delegate count for that reason.
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Postby New Cobastheia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:31 pm

Burgun just won't quit will he

I mean Nez probably won't either but still

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:32 pm

New Cobastheia wrote:Burgun just won't quit will he

I mean Nez probably won't either but still


What happens when 2 of the most stubborn people go at each other

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Postby Lavan Tiri » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:42 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
New Cobastheia wrote:Burgun just won't quit will he

I mean Nez probably won't either but still


What happens when 2 of the most stubborn people go at each other


3, if you count Jason.
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Postby New Cobastheia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:45 pm

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
What happens when 2 of the most stubborn people go at each other


3, if you count Jason.

Nez isn't even all that stubborn on most things, but for a comparison imagine some White Republican Governor with a history of a poor handling on something typically important to a Black Community talking down to a Black Democratic Congressmember and you'll imagine why she's still dealing with this

Honestly debating on if I should start off Nez's next tweet with, "Ok Motherfucker"
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