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Which Cold War era US President was the best?

Poll ended at Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:54 am

Harry S. Truman (1945–1953)
2
3%
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953–1961)
25
32%
John F. Kennedy (1961–1963)
17
22%
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963–1969)
6
8%
Richard Nixon (1969–1974)
7
9%
Gerald Ford (1974–1977)
0
No votes
Jimmy Carter (1977–1981)
3
4%
Ronald Reagan (1981–1989)
12
16%
George H. W. Bush (1989–1993)
1
1%
All of the Above/None of the Above/Other (please specify)
4
5%
 
Total votes : 77

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Postby The Village Green SSR » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:30 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:
The Village Green SSR wrote:Okay. Wew. Wew. This has been a wild ride.

I guess I'll go with the accomplishments and failures of 20th-century American presidents for the next poll since the 40k one didn't work out. Personally, my favorite 20th-century president is either Teddy or FDR, but you can feel free to disagree with my assessment.

Hell yes, can't wait to trash on Woodrow Wilson.


Well, there aren't enough poll options for all of them, so we need to narrow down the Presidents. Maybe Cold War-era presidents would work better?
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:38 am

The Village Green SSR wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Hell yes, can't wait to trash on Woodrow Wilson.


Well, there aren't enough poll options for all of them, so we need to narrow down the Presidents. Maybe Cold War-era presidents would work better?

Hell yes, can't wait to trash on literally every Cold War president.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:50 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:
The Village Green SSR wrote:
Well, there aren't enough poll options for all of them, so we need to narrow down the Presidents. Maybe Cold War-era presidents would work better?

Hell yes, can't wait to trash on literally every Cold War president.

They fought the evils of communism! :twisted:
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:42 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Hell yes, can't wait to trash on literally every Cold War president.

They fought the evils of communism! :twisted:

“He who fights monsters”

And also, in some cases, fighting communism was really a justification held up to the media, who in turn, swallowed it like fishes.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:21 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Hell yes, can't wait to trash on literally every Cold War president.

They fought the evils of communism! :twisted:

Did Bush really be so much of a cold war president?

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:24 pm

La xinga wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:They fought the evils of communism! :twisted:

Did Bush really be so much of a cold war president?

Not really talking about Bush.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:31 pm

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sorry for misinterpretation. everything got muddled in ensuing thread discussion over life difficulty

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:00 pm

Because some of you don't get it, let me spell something out in no uncertain terms.

Do not get moderation involved unless you have to. They do not like us. They always end up bringing collateral damage in some over zealous attempt. They are hostile to us in general and you will not get the benefit of the doubt. Certain bad faith posters will stir stuff up and we have local stasi watching as it is. Don't be stupid. Don't be that fucking guy. You may think you are helping but you are making it much much worse. I got lucky this time, next time I might not. Just as some others here did. Things the left can do, we can not. It's just how it is. Think on that the next time you consider doing something ill thought out.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:16 pm

The East Marches II wrote:Because some of you don't get it, let me spell something out in no uncertain terms.

Do not get moderation involved unless you have to. They do not like us. They always end up bringing collateral damage in some over zealous attempt. They are hostile to us in general and you will not get the benefit of the doubt. Certain bad faith posters will stir stuff up and we have local stasi watching as it is. Don't be stupid. Don't be that fucking guy. You may think you are helping but you are making it much much worse. I got lucky this time, next time I might not. Just as some others here did. Things the left can do, we can not. It's just how it is. Think on that the next time you consider doing something ill thought out.

Is this in response to me reporting a leftist here?
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:28 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Because some of you don't get it, let me spell something out in no uncertain terms.

Do not get moderation involved unless you have to. They do not like us. They always end up bringing collateral damage in some over zealous attempt. They are hostile to us in general and you will not get the benefit of the doubt. Certain bad faith posters will stir stuff up and we have local stasi watching as it is. Don't be stupid. Don't be that fucking guy. You may think you are helping but you are making it much much worse. I got lucky this time, next time I might not. Just as some others here did. Things the left can do, we can not. It's just how it is. Think on that the next time you consider doing something ill thought out.

Is this in response to me reporting a leftist here?

i have to imagine that's part of it (alongside izandai's total failure to understand rwdt culture and ensuing report). especially given that you reported a clearly non-actionable post because you have an inexplicable grudge against me, rather than anything actually problematic.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:31 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Is this in response to me reporting a leftist here?

i have to imagine that's part of it (alongside izandai's total failure to understand rwdt culture and ensuing report). especially given that you reported a clearly non-actionable post because you have an inexplicable grudge against me, rather than anything actually problematic.

Even stranger, you're one of the leftists on RWDT who actually interacts in good faith.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:33 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Is this in response to me reporting a leftist here?

i have to imagine that's part of it (alongside izandai's total failure to understand rwdt culture and ensuing report). especially given that you reported a clearly non-actionable post because you have an inexplicable grudge against me, rather than anything actually problematic.

I don't have a grudge against you. I do find it to be trolling. If I'm wrong (I'm human, I make mistakes), the worst that would happen is they say "not actionable." Taking pot shots would be a better way to exercise such a grudge (but I don't have one btw), as I have no influence on moderator opinions and using mods as weapons would probably get me the warning.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:35 pm

The East Marches II wrote:Because some of you don't get it, let me spell something out in no uncertain terms.

Do not get moderation involved unless you have to. They do not like us. They always end up bringing collateral damage in some over zealous attempt. They are hostile to us in general and you will not get the benefit of the doubt. Certain bad faith posters will stir stuff up and we have local stasi watching as it is. Don't be stupid. Don't be that fucking guy. You may think you are helping but you are making it much much worse. I got lucky this time, next time I might not. Just as some others here did. Things the left can do, we can not. It's just how it is. Think on that the next time you consider doing something ill thought out.


It's dumb this needs to be said, but yeah...
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:36 pm

I'm hosting a RWDT party at my condo. My building has a rooftop with grills, sun chairs, and a great view of the lake and the skyline. Who wants in?
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:39 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I'm hosting a RWDT party at my condo. My building has a rooftop with grills, sun chairs, and a great view of the lake and the skyline. Who wants in?

How many can you accommodate?
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:39 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:I'm hosting a RWDT party at my condo. My building has a rooftop with grills, sun chairs, and a great view of the lake and the skyline. Who wants in?

i feel like TEM is the only person geographically close enough to you to actually be able to do that.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:43 pm

La xinga wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:They fought the evils of communism! :twisted:

Did Bush really be so much of a cold war president?

Yes, but he was the first of many to cave into China's demands in the hope that they'd improve.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:44 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
La xinga wrote:Did Bush really be so much of a cold war president?

Yes, but he was the first of many to cave into China's demands in the hope that they'd improve.

China is part of the reason why I abandoned my support for free trade. Yes, I'm all for trading, but restrictions need to be imposed to not empower the CCP or other communist countries.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:49 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:I'm hosting a RWDT party at my condo. My building has a rooftop with grills, sun chairs, and a great view of the lake and the skyline. Who wants in?

i feel like TEM is the only person geographically close enough to you to actually be able to do that.

I could fly there, but it wouldn't be worth it.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:50 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Yes, but he was the first of many to cave into China's demands in the hope that they'd improve.

China is part of the reason why I abandoned my support for free trade. Yes, I'm all for trading, but restrictions need to be imposed to not empower the CCP or other communist countries.

Don't necessary look at commie countries, they're not all bad, like Vietnam has good relationships NOW with the US, but some, like NK and China, are, on my opinion, uh, not the best places for USA to do anything with. USA's share of the world GDP is decreasing, China's is growing, and NK is well, NK.

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:52 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:i feel like TEM is the only person geographically close enough to you to actually be able to do that.

I could fly there, but it wouldn't be worth it.

i couldn't even fly there if i wanted #pycnoscelusfemapterusproblems
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:52 pm

La xinga wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:China is part of the reason why I abandoned my support for free trade. Yes, I'm all for trading, but restrictions need to be imposed to not empower the CCP or other communist countries.

Don't necessary look at commie countries, they're not all bad, like Vietnam has good relationships NOW with the US, but some, like NK and China, are, on my opinion, uh, not the best places for USA to do anything with. USA's share of the world GDP is decreasing, China's is growing, and NK is well, NK.

Vietnam is still an authoritarian place with a loose grasp of human rights.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:53 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
La xinga wrote:Don't necessary look at commie countries, they're not all bad, like Vietnam has good relationships NOW with the US, but some, like NK and China, are, on my opinion, uh, not the best places for USA to do anything with. USA's share of the world GDP is decreasing, China's is growing, and NK is well, NK.

Vietnam is still an authoritarian place with a loose grasp of human rights.

i wasn't aware you cared about human rights?
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Postby The Marlborough » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:53 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
La xinga wrote:Don't necessary look at commie countries, they're not all bad, like Vietnam has good relationships NOW with the US, but some, like NK and China, are, on my opinion, uh, not the best places for USA to do anything with. USA's share of the world GDP is decreasing, China's is growing, and NK is well, NK.

Vietnam is still an authoritarian place with a loose grasp of human rights.

So?
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:58 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
La xinga wrote:Don't necessary look at commie countries, they're not all bad, like Vietnam has good relationships NOW with the US, but some, like NK and China, are, on my opinion, uh, not the best places for USA to do anything with. USA's share of the world GDP is decreasing, China's is growing, and NK is well, NK.

Vietnam is still an authoritarian place with a loose grasp of human rights.

Human rights as in democracy or no access to potatoes?
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