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by San Kalungsod Saludong » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:59 am
by Fahran » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:01 am
Hanafuridake wrote:Their reasons for enlisting and dying were complicated and ranged from idealistic students who were enthusiastic to older more weary pilots who recognized the futility and even those who were plainly coerced. One pilot declared that he was dying for his wife, not the Emperor. In some private letters, pilots harshly criticized the government for putting them in the position.
They all had their own motives and shouldn't be dismissed as mere robots.
by Novus America » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:04 am
Hanafuridake wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:Kamikaze Pilots: brainwashed fanatics or misunderstood heroes?
Their reasons for enlisting and dying were complicated and ranged from idealistic students who were enthusiastic to older more weary pilots who recognized the futility and even those who were plainly coerced. One pilot declared that he was dying for his wife, not the Emperor. In some private letters, pilots harshly criticized the government for putting them in the position.
They all had their own motives and shouldn't be dismissed as mere robots.
by Bienenhalde » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:09 am
Fahran wrote:I believe the Great War served to reshape the relationship between man and violence in a way that often goes unappreciated outside of academic circles today. A lot of the luster that had clung to the idea of war throughout the classical and medieval periods began to crack around the time artillery and accurate rifles became the go-to tools of the battlefield. That's not especially surprising given that the Iliad seems to speak to the dual nature of war, even in antiquity, with heroism and loss intermingled. And this is made more poignant by Achilles's lament in the Odyssey that "it would be better to have been a tenant farmer than king of all these notable shades."
While Japan didn't experience this shift in the same way as Europe, I find it difficult to believe that the average person, or indeed even the average soldier, could not feel the pang of regret that comes with sitting in a hole or plane and waiting to die for a cause that has become hopeless would engender. To the Greeks, war was almost a sport. If your phalanx didn't break, very few people would die. If it did break and you ran away, at most, thirty percent of you and your brothers-in-arms might be killed. It was a contest of physique and will. With modern warfare, the casualties are truly horrendous. Hundreds if not thousands of people dying of disease, poison gas, chemical weapons, aerial bombings, artillery barrages - and, more, there's often nothing they personally can do about it. They can't even fool themselves into thinking they have control.
by Bienenhalde » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:12 am
San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:What Greek Speaking Empire was the best? Is it the Alexandrian or the Byzantine Empire?
I personally lean Byzantine, Belisarius is among the greatest Tacticians I know, he only led paltry expeditionary forces but bascially reclaimed most of the Western Roman Empire.
by San Kalungsod Saludong » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:12 am
by San Kalungsod Saludong » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:13 am
Bienenhalde wrote:San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:What Greek Speaking Empire was the best? Is it the Alexandrian or the Byzantine Empire?
I personally lean Byzantine, Belisarius is among the greatest Tacticians I know, he only led paltry expeditionary forces but bascially reclaimed most of the Western Roman Empire.
Well, the Byzantines were the first great empire in history to have Christianity as their state religion, so I hold them in high regard for that reason.
by Bienenhalde » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:25 am
San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:
Armenia and Ethiopia would like to contest that.
by Fahran » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:27 am
Bienenhalde wrote:Do they count as empires, though? At any rate, the kingdoms of Armenia and Ethiopia were not nearly as large or powerful as Byzantium.
by Novus America » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:27 am
Bienenhalde wrote:Fahran wrote:I believe the Great War served to reshape the relationship between man and violence in a way that often goes unappreciated outside of academic circles today. A lot of the luster that had clung to the idea of war throughout the classical and medieval periods began to crack around the time artillery and accurate rifles became the go-to tools of the battlefield. That's not especially surprising given that the Iliad seems to speak to the dual nature of war, even in antiquity, with heroism and loss intermingled. And this is made more poignant by Achilles's lament in the Odyssey that "it would be better to have been a tenant farmer than king of all these notable shades."
While Japan didn't experience this shift in the same way as Europe, I find it difficult to believe that the average person, or indeed even the average soldier, could not feel the pang of regret that comes with sitting in a hole or plane and waiting to die for a cause that has become hopeless would engender. To the Greeks, war was almost a sport. If your phalanx didn't break, very few people would die. If it did break and you ran away, at most, thirty percent of you and your brothers-in-arms might be killed. It was a contest of physique and will. With modern warfare, the casualties are truly horrendous. Hundreds if not thousands of people dying of disease, poison gas, chemical weapons, aerial bombings, artillery barrages - and, more, there's often nothing they personally can do about it. They can't even fool themselves into thinking they have control.
Modern industrialized warfare was a mistake.
by Diopolis » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:30 am
by Novus America » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:33 am
by Cekoviu » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:36 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Kamikaze Pilots: brainwashed fanatics or misunderstood heroes?
San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:What Greek Speaking Empire was the best? Is it the Alexandrian or the Byzantine Empire?
I personally lean Byzantine, Belisarius is among the greatest Tacticians I know, he only led paltry expeditionary forces but bascially reclaimed most of the Western Roman Empire.
by Questarian New Yorkshire » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:39 am
Fahran wrote:Hanafuridake wrote:Their reasons for enlisting and dying were complicated and ranged from idealistic students who were enthusiastic to older more weary pilots who recognized the futility and even those who were plainly coerced. One pilot declared that he was dying for his wife, not the Emperor. In some private letters, pilots harshly criticized the government for putting them in the position.
They all had their own motives and shouldn't be dismissed as mere robots.
I believe this. I really need to read these letters but I'm not ready to be sad today.
by North German Realm » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:45 am
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by State of Turelisa » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:52 am
Salus Maior wrote:State of Turelisa wrote:
Sheep represent the faithful who obeyed God and devoted themselves to Him and were therefore truly holy. Goats represent people who through their actions were apparently good people and wrongly believed they were acting goodly, but because they were actually acting in direct opposition to God's commands, they were damned.
That's an extrapolation.
Both the Sheep and the Goats recognize who Jesus is, they believe in Him. The Goats don't understand what Jesus is saying when He says that they didn't help Him, because they would have helped Him if they saw the Son of God in need.
Your analysis of the text is wrong in saying that the "Goats" thought they were "acting" good, because it's clear from the text that they weren't acting at all. The issue here is their lack of action, their lack of good works, while also professing their belief in Christ who commanded them to do good works.
The "Sheep" believe in Christ just as much as the "Goats" do, and this is evident by the fact that their responses are the same as the "Goats". They are holier, yes, but their holiness comes from the fact that they acted on their faith and did what Christ commanded them to do; which was do good works.
by Salus Maior » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:07 am
State of Turelisa wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
That's an extrapolation.
Both the Sheep and the Goats recognize who Jesus is, they believe in Him. The Goats don't understand what Jesus is saying when He says that they didn't help Him, because they would have helped Him if they saw the Son of God in need.
Your analysis of the text is wrong in saying that the "Goats" thought they were "acting" good, because it's clear from the text that they weren't acting at all. The issue here is their lack of action, their lack of good works, while also professing their belief in Christ who commanded them to do good works.
The "Sheep" believe in Christ just as much as the "Goats" do, and this is evident by the fact that their responses are the same as the "Goats". They are holier, yes, but their holiness comes from the fact that they acted on their faith and did what Christ commanded them to do; which was do good works.
I'm afraid this is the typical interpretation of the Christian mind which is encumbered with Catholic theology. My interpretation is the consensus among Protestant theologians.
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast EPHESIANS 2:8-9.
by State of Turelisa » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:28 am
Salus Maior wrote:State of Turelisa wrote:
I'm afraid this is the typical interpretation of the Christian mind which is encumbered with Catholic theology. My interpretation is the consensus among Protestant theologians.
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast EPHESIANS 2:8-9.
I grew up Protestant, bud. I believed Protestant talking points and advocated for them for most of my life. And unless Arminians and New School theologians are suddenly not Protestant, then your assertion that this is a consensus among Protestants isn't accurate.
None of this is even a real counterpoint, it's a deflection. Where, for instance, is it implied that the "goats" believed that they were doing good works? And while you are correct that the "sheep" in the parable have greater devotion to Christ, that's because they acted on their faith and did what He commanded.
by Hanafuridake » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:32 am
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
by Northern Davincia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:40 am
Cisairse wrote:Was Rousseau just a goon
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by The Village Green SSR » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:45 am
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