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LWDT IX: Discussing the Left From All Engels

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What kind of Leftist are you?

Centrist/Moderate/Third wayer.
17
12%
Social Liberal
10
7%
Social Democrat
22
16%
Green Progressive
7
5%
Democratic Socialist
25
18%
Marxist Communist
19
14%
Anarchist Communist
20
14%
Other (please state)
20
14%
 
Total votes : 140

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:01 am

Asherahan wrote:Also all religions should be banned.

We're banning Marxism then? Secularized theologies GTFO!
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Postby Asherahan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:02 am

Cekoviu wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
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ugh, get a room
Asherahan wrote:Also all religions should be banned.

absolutely fucking not

Why not? Think what we can do with all these new government owned churches turned public buildings after we ban all religions!
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:03 am

Fahran wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Also all religions should be banned.

We're banning Marxism then? Secularized theologies GTFO!


Most ideology is secularized theologies, tho, or at least can be argued as such from certain angles.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:04 am

Valrifell wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:ugh, get a room


I have strong feelings about this post and none of them are positive, yet they're all indescribable.

come on, you know you guys would make an adorable couple :^)
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:05 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I have strong feelings about this post and none of them are positive, yet they're all indescribable.

come on, you know you guys would make an adorable couple :^)


This isn't an enemies-to-lovers AU, this is real life!
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:05 am

Asherahan wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:ugh, get a room

absolutely fucking not

Why not? Think what we can do with all these new government owned churches turned public buildings after we ban all religions!

1) because religion is a good thing and we should not be eradicating it
2) don't you dare fuck up churches' architecture with your hoxhaist brutalist bullshit
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:06 am

Valrifell wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:come on, you know you guys would make an adorable couple :^)


This isn't an enemies-to-lovers AU, this is real life!

>implying anything is "real"
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:07 am

Valrifell wrote:Most ideology is secularized theologies, tho, or at least can be argued as such from certain angles.

Essentially, yes. I tend to maintain that conservatism, albeit not Dominionism or Islamism, doesn't fit neatly into the category of an ideology because it's not usually predicated on any particular end goal, at least not one derived and supported exclusively by reason. There's probably a number of other paradigms with that distinction as well, but when we discuss secularized theologies socialism, fascism, and liberalism come to mind, as well as most ideologies inspired by them. So modern American conservatism too.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:07 am

Valrifell wrote:This isn't an enemies-to-lovers AU, this is real life!

But what if G-d is an adolescent author with edgy girl tendencies?
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:08 am

Fahran wrote:
Valrifell wrote:This isn't an enemies-to-lovers AU, this is real life!

But what if G-d is an adolescent author with edgy girl tendencies?


Then I think we have bigger problems.
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Postby Asherahan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:08 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Why not? Think what we can do with all these new government owned churches turned public buildings after we ban all religions!

1) because religion is a good thing and we should not be eradicating it
2) don't you dare fuck up churches' architecture with your hoxhaist brutalist bullshit

1) :rofl: :clap: :hug: Thanks for the Laugh.
2) I am not gonna blow up cultural treasures. I am just gonna reimagine their use.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:11 am

Fahran wrote:
Valrifell wrote:This isn't an enemies-to-lovers AU, this is real life!

But what if G-d is an adolescent author with edgy girl tendencies?

i'm 100% on board with this theology
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:13 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Fahran wrote:But what if G-d is an adolescent author with edgy girl tendencies?

i'm 100% on board with this theology


It'll probably feel nice to have a higher power you can see yourself in :)
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Postby Asherahan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:13 am

Fahran wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Also all religions should be banned.

We're banning Marxism then? Secularized theologies GTFO!

As you are a Jew you should know i blaim your religion for spawning Jesus. Not in a racist way more of the why the fuck did you go and spawn that dickwad way.

Our hedonistic gods were way better than the shitty religions of today i could abide with their bullshit at least.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:14 am

Asherahan wrote:
Fahran wrote:We're banning Marxism then? Secularized theologies GTFO!

As you are a Jew you should know i blaim your religion for spawning Jesus. Not in a racist way more of the why the fuck did you go and spawn that dickwad way.


I don't think they had a choice in the matter.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:15 am

North German Realm wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Isn't this how 1848 started?

The Highlight of 1871, you mean.

Asherahan wrote:I can't be racist if i hate every religion equally.

How can hating religion be racist in the first place

Not inherently, but in certain circumstances-the type of cold who hate Islam but end up attacking Sikhs and leaving Eastern European Muslims alone should raise eyebrows.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:17 am

Valrifell wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:i'm 100% on board with this theology


It'll probably feel nice to have a higher power you can see yourself in :)

wow i didn't expect to be this mercilessly BTFO'd jeez
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Postby Asherahan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:18 am

Valrifell wrote:
Asherahan wrote:As you are a Jew you should know i blaim your religion for spawning Jesus. Not in a racist way more of the why the fuck did you go and spawn that dickwad way.


I don't think they had a choice in the matter.

True but they did it anyway.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:21 am

Asherahan wrote:Also all religions should be banned.

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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:25 am

Asherahan wrote:
Fahran wrote:We're banning Marxism then? Secularized theologies GTFO!

As you are a Jew you should know i blaim your religion for spawning Jesus. Not in a racist way more of the why the fuck did you go and spawn that dickwad way.

Our hedonistic gods were way better than the shitty religions of today i could abide with their bullshit at least.

Based on what criterion?
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Postby Asherahan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:26 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Also all religions should be banned.

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Exactly.

Also saying this unironically
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Postby Asherahan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:28 am

Kowani wrote:
Asherahan wrote:As you are a Jew you should know i blaim your religion for spawning Jesus. Not in a racist way more of the why the fuck did you go and spawn that dickwad way.

Our hedonistic gods were way better than the shitty religions of today i could abide with their bullshit at least.

Based on what criterion?

Based on the criterion of being way less conservative, oppressing people way less and being decentralised.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:28 am

Kowani wrote:
Asherahan wrote:As you are a Jew you should know i blaim your religion for spawning Jesus. Not in a racist way more of the why the fuck did you go and spawn that dickwad way.

Our hedonistic gods were way better than the shitty religions of today i could abide with their bullshit at least.

Based on what criterion?


Does getting drunk in the woods (and possibly dismembered and cannibalized) by the followers of Dionysus not sound like a good time to you?!
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Postby Asherahan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:30 am

Valrifell wrote:
Kowani wrote:Based on what criterion?


Does getting drunk in the woods (and possibly dismembered and cannibalized) by the followers of Dionysus not sound like a good time to you?!

It seems way more fun than the shit religions peddle today.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:31 am

Valrifell wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:i'm 100% on board with this theology


It'll probably feel nice to have a higher power you can see yourself in :)

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