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Are the police racist?

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:45 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
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Tell them they won't be missed. Now we have 57 openings for people who can do the job right.


Tell them they have said goodbye to their pensions.


Played themselves like Call of Duty.
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Postby SangMar » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:46 am

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It wasn’t in protest though, it was because their union has stopped paying for cops who police these protests to have legal representation.

Which either shows the union for Buffalo to be really good, or for the number of cases of brutality at protests in Buffalo to be really bad.

Either way that’s 57 less cops so...


...On the ERT.

They’re still with Buffalo Police.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:46 am

SangMar wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Either way that’s 57 less cops so...


...On the ERT.

They’re still with Buffalo Police.


Fuck
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Postby SangMar » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:48 am

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Singapore seems to be making a good go of things though.


Because the population is brainwashed into thinking that their way is the only way. If we tried to do that in America, the resulting violence and unrest would make this shit we're currently living through look like the good old days.


No... that’s bullshit.

Singapore’s population are aware that the PAP will never give up power - considering that they sue any legit challengers out of existence in court. They just don’t really care that much - as they have a good standard of living and their government is mostly competent.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:50 am

SangMar wrote:
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Because the population is brainwashed into thinking that their way is the only way. If we tried to do that in America, the resulting violence and unrest would make this shit we're currently living through look like the good old days.


No... that’s bullshit.

Singapore’s population are aware that the PAP will never give up power - considering that they sue any legit challengers out of existence in court. They just don’t really care that much - as they have a good standard of living and their government is mostly competent.


So basically they like how things are done there.

As I said, Americans would probably riot if we did that stuff here.
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Postby SangMar » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:50 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
SangMar wrote:
...On the ERT.

They’re still with Buffalo Police.


Fuck


Niagara Falls PD have apparently had few issues though. They’ve had days of peaceful protests without major incident.

So that’s a plus.
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Postby SangMar » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:52 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
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No... that’s bullshit.

Singapore’s population are aware that the PAP will never give up power - considering that they sue any legit challengers out of existence in court. They just don’t really care that much - as they have a good standard of living and their government is mostly competent.


So basically they like how things are done there.

As I said, Americans would probably riot if we did that stuff here.


Yes. Neither of those are “brainwashing”.

It’s like in the PRC - much of China only likes the CCP for as long as they grow the economy and have a good standard of living. Until that stops, they’re content - in fact, they don’t think democracy would work for them: and they point to Donald Trump as an example. They’re aware of the lack of free speech and such - not about the camps or anything though.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:52 am

SangMar wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Either way that’s 57 less cops so...


...On the ERT.

They’re still with Buffalo Police.

And that’s still better than nothing
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Postby Esternial » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:54 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
SangMar wrote:
Singapore seems to be making a good go of things though.


Because the population is brainwashed into thinking that their way is the only way. If we tried to do that in America, the resulting violence and unrest would make this shit we're currently living through look like the good old days.

The same could be said about Americans being brainwashed on a slew of topics.

Accusing an entire population of being "brainwashed" doesn't tend to fly that well.

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Postby Page » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:56 am

Esternial wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Because the population is brainwashed into thinking that their way is the only way. If we tried to do that in America, the resulting violence and unrest would make this shit we're currently living through look like the good old days.

The same could be said about Americans being brainwashed on a slew of topics.

Accusing an entire population of being "brainwashed" doesn't tend to fly that well.


The relationship between the people and the state is usually an abusive one. Perhaps "brainwashed" isn't the best choice of words but I would at least call peoples' tolerance for having their lives controlled by a government learned helplessness.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:56 am

Esternial wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Because the population is brainwashed into thinking that their way is the only way. If we tried to do that in America, the resulting violence and unrest would make this shit we're currently living through look like the good old days.

The same could be said about Americans being brainwashed on a slew of topics.

Accusing an entire population of being "brainwashed" doesn't tend to fly that well.


Americans kinda are though. For example we think everyone is thinking "AMERICA YOU'RE SO FREE AND POWERFUL AND WE'RE SO JEALOUS" when in real life either they aren't thinking about us at all or they're shaking their heads in disappointment watching us fail.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:56 am

Dolgo wrote:Where do I stand on Liberate Michigan? Introduction of judicial caning for violators of quarantine—no exceptions.

I support universal healthcare, affordable housing, affirmative action... I am not a conservative, but I'm not liberal either. I support the rule of law, an integrated society, a nation that provides for the most vulnerable... I do not give special treatment to anyone regardless of their intentions. You gather in masses during a pandemic, you're putting yourself, your community, and your country at risk. The virus does not care about your sentiments. Go home and stay there, save lives.

I really want to agree with this. I really really want to.

Because yes over all the health and safety of all of America and the world should be up first. Stoping COVID-19 should be the first thing on our minds.


But this is an issue that has been boiling too long in America. The cop brutality against black people needs to end. It can't be put off any longer.
I say if the protesters have masks and are practicing social distancing while also protesting peacefully, those are the protests America needs. Riots and looting need to stop. Any protester that doesn't have a mask and not practicing social distancing really really need to. But if there not, its hard for me to say stop to them. Cop brutality needs to end here and now. Because if not now then when? How many more people need to die before we get cop reform?

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Postby Blackdove » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:57 am

Esternial wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Because the population is brainwashed into thinking that their way is the only way. If we tried to do that in America, the resulting violence and unrest would make this shit we're currently living through look like the good old days.

The same could be said about Americans being brainwashed on a slew of topics.

Accusing an entire population of being "brainwashed" doesn't tend to fly that well.

The US propaganda machine is quite powerful so I wouldn't count it out.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:57 am

SangMar wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
So basically they like how things are done there.

As I said, Americans would probably riot if we did that stuff here.


Yes. Neither of those are “brainwashing”.

It’s like in the PRC - much of China only likes the CCP for as long as they grow the economy and have a good standard of living. Until that stops, they’re content - in fact, they don’t think democracy would work for them: and they point to Donald Trump as an example. They’re aware of the lack of free speech and such - not about the camps or anything though.


They're brainwashed in the sense that they accept their government as is and think it's okay when it's not.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:57 am

SangMar wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Either way that’s 57 less cops so...


...On the ERT.

They’re still with Buffalo Police.


Bummer. Though I suppose they're taking a pay cut for that. I hope their commander doesn't cave in.

Let's think of (legal) punishments that could be applied to them.
I say send them out on cat-in-tree calls to crazy old ladies who don't have a cat.
Or make them "test" tasers on each other ...
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:58 am

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:59 am

SangMar wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Fuck


Niagara Falls PD have apparently had few issues though. They’ve had days of peaceful protests without major incident.

So that’s a plus.


Probably beacuse they take cues from the glorious Canadian Niagara Regional Police.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:01 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
SangMar wrote:
Yes. Neither of those are “brainwashing”.

It’s like in the PRC - much of China only likes the CCP for as long as they grow the economy and have a good standard of living. Until that stops, they’re content - in fact, they don’t think democracy would work for them: and they point to Donald Trump as an example. They’re aware of the lack of free speech and such - not about the camps or anything though.


They're brainwashed in the sense that they accept their government as is and think it's okay when it's not.

Dude go make a different thread instead of clogging this one with what is and isn’t brainwashing.

We have more important things to discuss like how Nixon met with protesters after Kent State while Trump didn’t, or like how the Roof Koreans are joining the protests, or that Trump is pissed at his wife.
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Postby SangMar » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:02 am

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SangMar wrote:
...On the ERT.

They’re still with Buffalo Police.


Bummer. Though I suppose they're taking a pay cut for that. I hope their commander doesn't cave in.

Let's think of (legal) punishments that could be applied to them.
I say send them out on cat-in-tree calls to crazy old ladies who don't have a cat.
Or make them "test" tasers on each other ...


Hopefully, the passed in Minneapolis regarding intervention will become a thing more nationally. If it’s not already too.

I like that law, in fact, I’d like to something like it in the UK too.
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Postby TRIEADMORE » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:02 am

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Liriena wrote:The algorithm has been shilling hard for him.

Police shouldn't be defunded. It should be disbanded.

I remember one time I accidently clicked on a conservative video YouTube recommended to me, and for an entire week my feed was flooded with anti-immigrant, anti-LGBT, anti-happiness, etc... videos.

How much do you think it'd take to sue YouTube? Cause that is a week of my life I'm never getting back.


I hate YouTube for that.Clicked in one Conservative video once and it was flooded with list of videos with MAGA ,Alt Right,Proud Boys,anti-immigrant,anti-LGBT,anti-NFL,build the wall,anti happiness, anti-everything ads. Iv’e had enough of YouTube for that. I support police forces being reduced in size mostly, but I understand and support those who want to see the police disbanded:)

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:03 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
They're brainwashed in the sense that they accept their government as is and think it's okay when it's not.

Dude go make a different thread instead of clogging this one with what is and isn’t brainwashing.

We have more important things to discuss like how Nixon met with protesters after Kent State while Trump didn’t, or like how the Roof Koreans are joining the protests, or that Trump is pissed at his wife.


Look it's just my opinion on what I count as brainwashed. I won't keep debating this since this is the "fuck the police" thread and not the "are Singaporeans brainwashed" thread.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:03 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
They're brainwashed in the sense that they accept their government as is and think it's okay when it's not.

Dude go make a different thread instead of clogging this one with what is and isn’t brainwashing.

We have more important things to discuss like how Nixon met with protesters after Kent State while Trump didn’t, or like how the Roof Koreans are joining the protests, or that Trump is pissed at his wife.


Man a futurama villain is a better president then Trump.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:04 am

TRIEADMORE wrote:
New haven america wrote:I remember one time I accidently clicked on a conservative video YouTube recommended to me, and for an entire week my feed was flooded with anti-immigrant, anti-LGBT, anti-happiness, etc... videos.

How much do you think it'd take to sue YouTube? Cause that is a week of my life I'm never getting back.


I hate YouTube for that.Clicked in one Conservative video once and it was flooded with list of videos with MAGA ,Alt Right,Proud Boys,anti-immigrant,anti-LGBT,anti-NFL,build the wall,anti happiness, anti-everything ads. Iv’e had enough of YouTube for that. I support police forces being reduced in size mostly, but I understand and support those who want to see the police disbanded:)


I'm afraid I have some bad news. Considering that you're not a fan of racism or conservatives, it may bring you great distress to know that a Korean race nationalist on this site had your flag at one time.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby SangMar » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:05 am

TRIEADMORE wrote:
New haven america wrote:I remember one time I accidently clicked on a conservative video YouTube recommended to me, and for an entire week my feed was flooded with anti-immigrant, anti-LGBT, anti-happiness, etc... videos.

How much do you think it'd take to sue YouTube? Cause that is a week of my life I'm never getting back.


I hate YouTube for that.Clicked in one Conservative video once and it was flooded with list of videos with MAGA ,Alt Right,Proud Boys,anti-immigrant,anti-LGBT,anti-NFL,build the wall,anti happiness, anti-everything ads. Iv’e had enough of YouTube for that. I support police forces being reduced in size mostly, but I understand and support those who want to see the police disbanded:)


Reducing police forces in size in terms of personnel is a terrible idea.

Reducing the number of departments though...
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