by Rojava Free State » Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:13 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
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by New haven america » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:45 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Malcolm X is the homie. MLK was alright but I like Malcolm's idea of direct action.
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by Esternial » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:52 pm
Baphomet Union wrote:Do you like Martin Luther King Jr or Malcolm X ? Both men had astonishing ideas to deal with discrimination. But the question remains: If you had to follow one of them would it be aMartin Luther King or Malcolm X ? Who would you follow?
I would admire a nation began on the philosophy of Malcolm X. I totally agree with him. If a certain person was seeking my life, I would be irresponsible not to. Harm them. I disagree with Martin Luther King.
by New haven america » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:17 pm
Esternial wrote:Baphomet Union wrote:Do you like Martin Luther King Jr or Malcolm X ? Both men had astonishing ideas to deal with discrimination. But the question remains: If you had to follow one of them would it be aMartin Luther King or Malcolm X ? Who would you follow?
I would admire a nation began on the philosophy of Malcolm X. I totally agree with him. If a certain person was seeking my life, I would be irresponsible not to. Harm them. I disagree with Martin Luther King.
Now I may be a lazy alpaca, but it might be nice if you have a small summary of these folks' ideologies.
I don't know shit about Malcom X. Is he part of the X-men?
by The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:26 pm
New haven america wrote:Esternial wrote:Now I may be a lazy alpaca, but it might be nice if you have a small summary of these folks' ideologies.
I don't know shit about Malcom X. Is he part of the X-men?
No but his ideas actually inspired Magneto.
Malcolm X was a black civil rights activist and separationist who believed that black and white Americans (Or black and white people (Or as he liked to refer to them as, "White Devils") in general) couldn't live in peace together and wanted to form nation solely populated by black people located in the south/former Confederacy territory, hopefully under to theocratic rule of Islam. He gave up most of these beliefs though after going on the Hajj to Mecca and realizing that he had a super Amero-centric view when he was able to go to multiracial areas and experienced almost no discrimination, which lead him to agree more with MLK's views on peaceful protest and civil uprisings, leading him to get murdered by The Nation of Islam (The political party he founded).
by New haven america » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:28 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:New haven america wrote:No but his ideas actually inspired Magneto.
Malcolm X was a black civil rights activist and separationist who believed that black and white Americans (Or black and white people (Or as he liked to refer to them as, "White Devils") in general) couldn't live in peace together and wanted to form nation solely populated by black people located in the south/former Confederacy territory, hopefully under to theocratic rule of Islam. He gave up most of these beliefs though after going on the Hajj to Mecca and realizing that he had a super Amero-centric view when he was able to go to multiracial areas and experienced almost no discrimination, which lead him to agree more with MLK's views on peaceful protest and civil uprisings, leading him to get murdered by The Nation of Islam (The political party he founded).
Malcolm X did not found the Nation of Islam.
The founder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Fard_Muhammad
by The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:34 pm
New haven america wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Malcolm X did not found the Nation of Islam.
The founder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Fard_Muhammad
Should've specified, The NOI under Wallace and the NOI under Malcolm are almost 2 completely different things due to sheer number and political sway.
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by New haven america » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:38 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:New haven america wrote:Should've specified, The NOI under Wallace and the NOI under Malcolm are almost 2 completely different things due to sheer number and political sway.
Malcolm X though influential was never the leader of the NOI. When Malcolm was influential Elijah Muhammad was the leader of the organization. They had a bad falling out, leading to Malcolm's death.
by The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:41 pm
New haven america wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Malcolm X though influential was never the leader of the NOI. When Malcolm was influential Elijah Muhammad was the leader of the organization. They had a bad falling out, leading to Malcolm's death.
Yes, I'm aware.
But while he was apart of it he was basically the defacto voice and figurehead of the party.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:43 pm
New haven america wrote:Esternial wrote:Now I may be a lazy alpaca, but it might be nice if you have a small summary of these folks' ideologies.
I don't know shit about Malcom X. Is he part of the X-men?
No but his ideas actually inspired Magneto.
Malcolm X was a black civil rights activist and separationist who believed that black and white Americans (Or black and white people (Or as he liked to refer to them as, "White Devils") in general) couldn't live in peace together and wanted to form nation solely populated by black people located in the south/former Confederacy territory, hopefully under to theocratic rule of Islam. He gave up most of these beliefs though after going on the Hajj to Mecca and realizing that he had a super Amero-centric view when he was able to go to multiracial areas and experienced almost no discrimination, which lead him to agree more with MLK's views on peaceful protest and civil uprisings, leading him to get murdered by The Nation of Islam (The political party he founded).
by New haven america » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:49 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:New haven america wrote:No but his ideas actually inspired Magneto.
Malcolm X was a black civil rights activist and separationist who believed that black and white Americans (Or black and white people (Or as he liked to refer to them as, "White Devils") in general) couldn't live in peace together and wanted to form nation solely populated by black people located in the south/former Confederacy territory, hopefully under to theocratic rule of Islam. He gave up most of these beliefs though after going on the Hajj to Mecca and realizing that he had a super Amero-centric view when he was able to go to multiracial areas and experienced almost no discrimination, which lead him to agree more with MLK's views on peaceful protest and civil uprisings, leading him to get murdered by The Nation of Islam (The political party he founded).
People - especially quite a few in this thread, including OP - seem to forget that he was a racist douche before his Hajj. Sure he had some finer points but it's hard to ignore what was basically an alternative form of segregation.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:53 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:New haven america wrote:Yes, I'm aware.
But while he was apart of it he was basically the defacto voice and figurehead of the party.
Not the leader though. There were people above him and they have censured him when they thought he stepped out of line. He was not the leader nor a de facto leader. It is also not a political party, but a religious cult.
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