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Postby Slavakino » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:37 am

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area


Why is that the last straw? I mean on one hand you have people's businesses and jobs being scorched and torched, and innocents being beaten in the streets. On the other you have decades of systemic oppression and brutality on full display before our very eyes, but now that they've spray painted a piece of marble that's almost trivially easy to clean, now you're upset?

You serious? You can't be serious, its literally an attack on troops who fought for their nation and freedom.
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Postby The Grims » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:39 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Why is that the last straw? I mean on one hand you have people's businesses and jobs being scorched and torched, and innocents being beaten in the streets. On the other you have decades of systemic oppression and brutality on full display before our very eyes, but now that they've spray painted a piece of marble that's almost trivially easy to clean, now you're upset?

It felt like a bit of a personal attack for me

Considering Trump just called all world war two veterans terrorists this should feel rather minor imo.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:40 am

Slavakino wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Why is that the last straw? I mean on one hand you have people's businesses and jobs being scorched and torched, and innocents being beaten in the streets. On the other you have decades of systemic oppression and brutality on full display before our very eyes, but now that they've spray painted a piece of marble that's almost trivially easy to clean, now you're upset?

You serious? You can't be serious, its literally an attack on troops who fought for their nation and freedom.


Freedom to protest included under that? Or were they just fighting for the freedoms they like?

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:40 am

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The New California Republic wrote:Similar to how Stonewall was an understandable reaction to the years of shit that the fuzz had been dishing out.

Indeed.
Also note how it actually worked. A short burst of violence achieved just as much, if not much more, than decades of peaceful talks.

Tbh had I been there I'd have probably started throwing things too.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:45 am

https://imgur.com/gallery/y9lXQcQ

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:45 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Why is that the last straw? I mean on one hand you have people's businesses and jobs being scorched and torched, and innocents being beaten in the streets. On the other you have decades of systemic oppression and brutality on full display before our very eyes, but now that they've spray painted a piece of marble that's almost trivially easy to clean, now you're upset?

It felt like a bit of a personal attack for me


It's probably even worse for WWII vets.

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Valrifell wrote:
Why is that the last straw? I mean on one hand you have people's businesses and jobs being scorched and torched, and innocents being beaten in the streets. On the other you have decades of systemic oppression and brutality on full display before our very eyes, but now that they've spray painted a piece of marble that's almost trivially easy to clean, now you're upset?

Seriously dude? You do realize that how fucking insensitive that sounds to a lot of us vets, especially the combat vets?


There's a WWII memorial in Sydney Australia, and on a party weekend some kid spraypainted it with anti-war slogans. The outrage was so prolonged and widespread the kid actually confessed and offered to clean it up. I think it had already been cleaned by then, a judge found him some other community service. But it was interesting, he didn't seem to know how offensive what he did was until there was a huge public fuss.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:48 am

Fartsniffage wrote:https://imgur.com/gallery/y9lXQcQ

Protesters hand rioter over to the police.

At protests it is usually fairly easy for participants to spot who is going to just be there to make trouble for trouble's sake, and remove them accordingly.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:49 am

Fartsniffage wrote:https://imgur.com/gallery/y9lXQcQ

Protesters hand rioter over to the police.

Good.

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Postby Nakena » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:49 am

Fartsniffage wrote:https://imgur.com/gallery/y9lXQcQ

Protesters hand rioter over to the police.


That was a powerful move. Finally they caught one of those guys.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:53 am

Nakena wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:https://imgur.com/gallery/y9lXQcQ

Protesters hand rioter over to the police.


That was a powerful move. Finally they caught one of those guys.

Trump has ordered him sent to Gitmo for enhanced interrogation.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:56 am

Slavakino wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Why is that the last straw? I mean on one hand you have people's businesses and jobs being scorched and torched, and innocents being beaten in the streets. On the other you have decades of systemic oppression and brutality on full display before our very eyes, but now that they've spray painted a piece of marble that's almost trivially easy to clean, now you're upset?

You serious? You can't be serious, its literally an attack on troops who fought for their nation and freedom.


Okay, sure, but we've had physical consequences from the violence and, while bad, I question the motives of anyone who is moved to action over something so comparably insignificant.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:01 am

Valrifell wrote:
Slavakino wrote:You serious? You can't be serious, its literally an attack on troops who fought for their nation and freedom.


Okay, sure, but we've had physical consequences from the violence and, while bad, I question the motives of anyone who is moved to action over something so comparably insignificant.

Murder does nothing to anger some people, but god help you if you dont SuPpOrT tHe TrOoPs
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:02 am

Valrifell wrote:
Slavakino wrote:You serious? You can't be serious, its literally an attack on troops who fought for their nation and freedom.


Okay, sure, but we've had physical consequences from the violence and, while bad, I question the motives of anyone who is moved to action over something so comparably insignificant.


Vandalizing a war memorial is not insignificant.

I guess you have contempt for the mainstream media, but they are a pretty sound guide to what matters to mainstream people. People who vote, not to rub it in.

If this makes the network or FTA news, then it's significant. And very negative for protesters. Protesters just should do this.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:07 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Okay, sure, but we've had physical consequences from the violence and, while bad, I question the motives of anyone who is moved to action over something so comparably insignificant.

Murder does nothing to anger some people, but god help you if you dont SuPpOrT tHe TrOoPs


Get out in the street and protest when your government is gearing up for war.
Refuse to serve (and put government to the expense of imprisoning you). Protest all through the war.
But then you might as well stop, it's too late to win public opinion to your side. The war is done.

Protesting against US involvement in WW2 is some high order of up-your-own-ass pacifism.

If it was even a protest. More likely vandalism by some idiotwho didn't even know what the memorial was.
OK, their beef was something about Peruvian prison riots. In other contexts I might care.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:09 am

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Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Murder does nothing to anger some people, but god help you if you dont SuPpOrT tHe TrOoPs


Get out in the street and protest when your government is gearing up for war.
Refuse to serve (and put government to the expense of imprisoning you). Protest all through the war.
But then you might as well stop, it's too late to win public opinion to your side. The war is done.

Protesting against US involvement in WW2 is some high order of up-your-own-ass pacifism.

If it was even a protest. More likely vandalism by some idiot who didn't even know what the memorial was.

oh my god if you think it was protesting us involvement in WW2 u are getting mighty close to delusional.
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Postby Slavakino » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:11 am

Fartsniffage wrote:https://imgur.com/gallery/y9lXQcQ

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Yes, good
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:12 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Get out in the street and protest when your government is gearing up for war.
Refuse to serve (and put government to the expense of imprisoning you). Protest all through the war.
But then you might as well stop, it's too late to win public opinion to your side. The war is done.

Protesting against US involvement in WW2 is some high order of up-your-own-ass pacifism.

If it was even a protest. More likely vandalism by some idiot who didn't even know what the memorial was.

oh my god if you think it was protesting us involvement in WW2 u are getting mighty close to delusional.


Is there anything they could have sprayed on the memorial which wouldn't be mindless vandalism?

I actually resent looking that up. I care less about Peruvian prisoners than I did before.
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:17 am

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Liking the fact that you used Trump's own tweet against him.

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Fartsniffage wrote:https://imgur.com/gallery/y9lXQcQ

Protesters hand rioter over to the police.

At protests it is usually fairly easy for participants to spot who is going to just be there to make trouble for trouble's sake, and remove them accordingly.


Yeah, I've seen clips of protesters stopping and calling out others that are aimlessly vandalising and looting stores unrelated to any police stuffs. This can easily weed out any people that are only there for the "free stuff" and the trouble.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:21 am

I don't know who this Repubican is but he's really trying to selling the whole Antifa thing.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:27 am

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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:30 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:I don't know who this Repubican is but he's really trying to selling the whole Antifa thing.


Trump's (well, I assume you're referring to him in a sarcastic manner) narrative for the ANTIFA seems like too much of a far fetch. Besides, he likely doesn't have substantial evidence for it anyways. He's also pushing it too far.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:31 am

Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I don't know who this Repubican is but he's really trying to selling the whole Antifa thing.


Trump's (well, I assume you're referring to him in a sarcastic manner) narrative for the ANTIFA seems like too much of a far fetch. Besides, he likely doesn't have substantial evidence for it anyways. He's also pushing it too far.


It makes a good convenient excuse for shutting down protests against him.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:31 am

Fartsniffage wrote:Old white man with a walking stick waiting for a bus pushed to the ground by masked thugs dressed in black.

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/12 ... 4821206016

Oh my fucking god. Fucking police brutality.
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"ANTIFA just means anti-fascist, so if you're against ANTIFA, you're obviously pro-fascist - just ignore that our group happens to be almost exclusively made up of violent communists and takes its name and tactics directly from a violent German communist party from the 1930s"

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