NS Military Realism Consultation Thread Vol. 11.0

[Immoren]

Put them all in turret. *nods*

Hellooooo

Hot.

[The New California Republic]

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Makes me wonder if they burned out the transmission on some of those engineering vehicles.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

the vikings walked their boats across russia by using fermented fish oil to lubricate logs

I think a couple of prime movers can tow a submarine if there's enough lube

just like how even shkvals can fit inside gallas torpedo tube if there's enough lubricant

[Gallia-]

here i found a highly relevant quote

"gae" - ostmark

[The New California Republic]

Hellooooo


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Hot.

In this case, "not".

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Hot.

In this case, "not".

dont kinkshame

[Hrstrovokia]

Are there any scenarios where Russia would allow export of Kornet and Kornet-M, or Iskander-M even, if enough money was thrown at them? And I mean literally buckets of money plus buying lots of their other stuff and you weren't a direct competitor to them in geopolitical situation.

[The New California Republic]

Are there any scenarios where Russia would allow export of Kornet and Kornet-M, or Iskander-M even, if enough money was thrown at them? And I mean literally buckets of money plus buying lots of their other stuff and you weren't a direct competitor to them in geopolitical situation.

Armenia and Algeria already have Iskander, and they don't have the capacity to throw buckets of money at the Russians.

[Dayganistan]

Are there any scenarios where Russia would allow export of Kornet and Kornet-M, or Iskander-M even, if enough money was thrown at them? And I mean literally buckets of money plus buying lots of their other stuff and you weren't a direct competitor to them in geopolitical situation.

Kornet is pretty widely exported. If Wikipedia is to be trusted, it's even been exported to Turkey and Greece which are NATO members. Hezbollah was also using Kornets to knock out Israeli tanks in 2006. Russia has very little concern who they sell their stuff to. They're not going to do something like sell a T-14 to the US of course but otherwise they'll sell stuff to pretty much anyone. And you don't need buckets of money for Russian stuff.

[Hrstrovokia]

Kornet is pretty widely exported. If Wikipedia is to be trusted, it's even been exported to Turkey and Greece which are NATO members. Hezbollah was also using Kornets to knock out Israeli tanks in 2006. Russia has very little concern who they sell their stuff to. They're not going to do something like sell a T-14 to the US of course but otherwise they'll sell stuff to pretty much anyone. And you don't need buckets of money for Russian stuff.

Armenia and Algeria already have Iskander, and they don't have the capacity to throw buckets of money at the Russians.

I think in all these cases it's the export variant. For example, Iskander-M is 415-550km whereas Iskander-E is 280km range. Algeria and Armenia seem to operate Iskander-E.

[The New California Republic]

Kornet is pretty widely exported. If Wikipedia is to be trusted, it's even been exported to Turkey and Greece which are NATO members. Hezbollah was also using Kornets to knock out Israeli tanks in 2006. Russia has very little concern who they sell their stuff to. They're not going to do something like sell a T-14 to the US of course but otherwise they'll sell stuff to pretty much anyone. And you don't need buckets of money for Russian stuff.

Armenia and Algeria already have Iskander, and they don't have the capacity to throw buckets of money at the Russians.

I think in all these cases it's the export variant. For example, Iskander-M is 415-550km whereas Iskander-E is 280km range. Algeria and Armenia seem to operate Iskander-E.

I don't think they'd ever export the non-monkey model version, except when it is obsolete.

[Ideal Britain]

Has obstruction of UN peacekeepers or similar (such as threatening or attacking them) ever been a casus belli?

What about attacking a state where your nation has put peacekeepers?

[The New California Republic]

Has obstruction of UN peacekeepers or similar (such as threatening or attacking them) ever been a casus belli?

Not to my knowledge no.

[New Vihenia]

I think in all these cases it's the export variant. For example, Iskander-M is 415-550km whereas Iskander-E is 280km range. Algeria and Armenia seem to operate Iskander-E.

Think about international agreement such as MTCR which expressively forbid anything having range beyond 300 km and payload in excess or equivalent to 500 Kg. This agreement although only voluntary, serves as perhaps the best ever example treaty where Russia comply down to the letter.

Before it came into effect however.. They'll sell you anything. e.g latest Scud variant the R-17OTV with DSMAC guidance and range of some 700 Km, R-400 Oka which carries over 700 Kg. Which Bulgaria refused to destroy until 1992 afaik. After MTCR comes into effect somewhere in perhaps 1987, they only sells stuff having range of 300km and 500 Kg of warhead.

ATGM's however is basically the best you can have. If there is any downgrades it would be related to some countermeasure related modes, not something that greatly impedes your operation but more like you have to procure more ATGM's for mission success.

[Dayganistan]

Kornet is pretty widely exported. If Wikipedia is to be trusted, it's even been exported to Turkey and Greece which are NATO members. Hezbollah was also using Kornets to knock out Israeli tanks in 2006. Russia has very little concern who they sell their stuff to. They're not going to do something like sell a T-14 to the US of course but otherwise they'll sell stuff to pretty much anyone. And you don't need buckets of money for Russian stuff.

Armenia and Algeria already have Iskander, and they don't have the capacity to throw buckets of money at the Russians.

I think in all these cases it's the export variant. For example, Iskander-M is 415-550km whereas Iskander-E is 280km range. Algeria and Armenia seem to operate Iskander-E.

That's relevant for the Iskander yes, but the export version of the Kornet isn't substantially different from the one used by the Russian military as far as I'm aware. Even if they are different, the export version of the Kornet has proven more than capable of dealing with modern MBTs and I'm sure the export version of the Kornet-M would fare even better.

[Axis Nova]

The Russians will generally sell anything they produce to anyone with the cash. They pretty much have to since the Russian military is in such rotten shape that they can't afford to equip their own troops with much of the newest stuff.

[Immoren]

I don't know how much this is true or patting on back of Finnish listeners.

...We have to take in account that reserve army is not professional army. But this can also benefit us greatly. This is because professional armies can be too eager to wait for orders and this goes against spirit of mission-type tactics/command...

[Taihei Tengoku]

I don't know how much this is true or patting on back of Finnish listeners.

...We have to take in account that reserve army is not professional army. But this can also benefit us greatly. This is because professional armies can be too eager to wait for orders and this goes against spirit of mission-type tactics/command...

The latter. Novices are generally slower and lower-performing than experts, with the exception of "trick questions" that subvert the expert's norms.

[Theodosiya]

I've been thinking about going back to Regimental formation. Like :
Mechanized Infantry Division

1x HQ Company

3x Infantry Regiment of
3x Battalion

1x Tank Regiment of
3x Battalion

1x Field Artillery Regiment of
3x Battalion, mix of MLRS and SPH

1x Strategic Artillery Regiment of
1x Heavy Artillery Battalion (203mm Howitzer)
1x Strategic MLRS Battalion (ATACMS)

1x Air Defense Regiment of
3x MERAD Battalion
1x LRAD Battalion

1x Anti Tank Regiment of
3x Anti Tank Battalion

1x Combat Engineering Regiment of
3x CEB

1x Combat Support Regiment of
3x Combat Support Battalion (think of US BSB)

In the field, they could be organized according to the Division commander whim. Could be tasked in organizations similar to US BCT. Could be organized where all artillery falls under Division commander, instead of handed out to the Infantry regiment, etc...

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

random question time:
How many tractor-borne infantry brigades does your fictional armee sport?

[Gallia-]

3

[The Manticoran Empire]

random question time:
How many tractor-borne infantry brigades does your fictional armee sport?

0 because what the hell is that?

[Triplebaconation]

Several Scandinavian armies use tractors for logistics.

NS-grade would be a Rheinmetall John Deere:

[Theodosiya]

random question time:
How many tractor-borne infantry brigades does your fictional armee sport?

0. Why use tractors when you can use trucks, humvee/Tigr and APCe...

[Somerania]

So think of it like this... I am Yugoslavia so I wanna domestically make an amphibious warfare ship any tips (I am talking about a reunified Yugoslavia that possesses all the technology of Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, FYROM, Montenegro and Kosovo)