Danceria wrote:Nuraca wrote:Also, here's the Discord server!
Again, not mandatory to be in here, just may be easier to talk and would crowd up the OOC a bit less.
...care to update the discord?
Sorry, not sure what you mean?
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by Nuraca » Sat May 09, 2020 7:09 pm
Danceria wrote:Nuraca wrote:Also, here's the Discord server!
Again, not mandatory to be in here, just may be easier to talk and would crowd up the OOC a bit less.
...care to update the discord?
by HypErcApitAl » Sat May 09, 2020 7:38 pm
Dentali wrote:Application
General
--Nation Name: The United Dutch Republic
--Map:(Image)
Not Picture is the colony on Ceylon
--Flag:(Image)
--Capital: Amsterdam
Government
--Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
--Government Overview: A Republic with 3 balanced branches, a unicameral legislature and the King as Head of State, very focused on tolerance and individual rights
--Head of Government: Statenholder (Prime Minister) Greet Von Reuten
--Head of State (if different): King William III
Demographics
--Population: 4 million
----Colonial Population (if applicable): 1 million
--Demonym: The Dutch
--Primary Culture: Dutch but fairly cosmopolitan
--Other Cultures: Beligan, colonial peoples
--Religion Overview: Mostly Protestant but minorities are well tolerated
Development Points (Total = 15, 11 for nations with no navy)
--Infrastructure/Economy (out of 10): 7
--Army (out of 10): 3
--Navy (out of 10): 5
--Military Overview: The military is small and almost exclusively focused defense and fortifications. The Dutch won their independence through siege warfare and as such are masters of defending fortified structures and field good well equipped infantry and artillery. But their laser focus has left them unable to take the offensive in any meaningful way, and their best and brightest rarely enter the military which is small relative to neighboring powers.
The Dutch Navy fairs much better however and is made up of a large collection of fast ships and experienced sailors to help maintain the colonial empire AND protect the trade routes that have made the nation so rich. In addition to the regular military the Dutch also boast a substantial Merchant Marine and naval reserve with Merchant fleets that can be pressed into service.
RP Elements
--National Objectives: Profit, Profit, Profit, Expand colonial holdings, find a strong ally to help protect the nation from threats.
--History: During the religious conflicts in the 1500s a group of powerful nobles and merchants in what would become succeeded from the HRE and formed a loose confederation to help protect themselves. Other nobles, cities, and merchants quickly began joining the confederation for a variety of reasons ranging from promises of religious tolerance to economic freedom, to early nationalism, to cultural rifts between the French and German overlords.
Over the next decade the region fought for its independence, wearing down their enemy in countless fruitless sieges and supplying the cities with a strong naval presence and blockade runners. Finally finding the region more trouble than it was worth the United Dutch Republic was officially created with the military hero and prominent noble William of Orange-Nassau became King William the First.
The war had led to a series of centralizing measures out of necessity which did not recede after the war and became a stronger government with a strong parliament and three coequal branches of government, the King, Parliament and a Grand Court. The Merchants being the strongest interest in the new Kingdom, small existing colonies were subject to a great deal of investment and new colonies were founded leading to a sprawling colonial empire stretching from Florida to Ceylon. Dutch Traders profited from low taxes and regulations and are among the most prominent traders in the world, and can be found in most world markets. This has led the Dutch to become the premiere economic power in Europe.
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by Khasinkonia » Sat May 09, 2020 7:55 pm
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by Union Princes » Sat May 09, 2020 8:57 pm
by Khasinkonia » Sat May 09, 2020 8:58 pm
Union Princes wrote:Is it too late to app as an Indian nation from the subcontinent?
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by Danubian Peoples » Sat May 09, 2020 11:48 pm
by Khasinkonia » Sun May 10, 2020 12:02 am
by Danubian Peoples » Sun May 10, 2020 12:25 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Hmmm, it seems the Enlightenment was a bit more succesful in this timeline. A lot of more Republican governments, which makes sense. One succesful Republic will probably inspire others, although I already see some major differences, from the more Roman-inspired Constantinople to the noble republic in Novgorod to the Protestant republic in France.
by The Pearl River » Sun May 10, 2020 1:09 am
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Sao Nova Europa wrote:Slightly altered map to make Russian-Chinese frontier aesthetically better. I grabbed two small empty Manchurian provinces in the north (which belong in RL to China anyway). OP is OK and unless anyone objects (none has so far), here is the altered map:
by Sao Nova Europa » Sun May 10, 2020 7:02 am
by Danubian Peoples » Sun May 10, 2020 7:23 am
Sao Nova Europa wrote:I am OK with that.
by Munkcestrian RepubIic » Sun May 10, 2020 7:35 am
by Reverend Norv » Sun May 10, 2020 8:18 am
Application
General
--Nation Name: The French Commonwealth.
--Map: Here, preliminarily. Its colonies in Senegal and the Cape are very loosely held. France will likely make an attempt at conquering the Algerian and Tunisian coast fairly early in the IC.
--Flag: see right.
--Capital: Paris
Government
--Government Type: Federal parliamentary constitutional religious republic. The most distinctive features of French democracy include the role of the Senate, which represents not the general public but instead interest groups like the nobility, the Reformed Church, and the military; and the aggressive and extensive judicial review of the national courts, which apply a hybridized form of civil and common law.
--Government Overview:The French Commonwealth is governed according to a written constitution that dates back to 1598, though it has been subject to amendment nearly every twenty years. In its essence, it is a parliamentary government of limited powers. It is an avowedly Christian and Reformed state, in which membership in the Reformed Church is required in order to hold office and for many forms of public employment.
Parliament is bicameral. The lower house, the National Assembly, has exclusive powers of the purse and is therefore regarded as the more powerful of the two. It is elected by the people from single-member districts; suffrage is limited to adult men who can either pay ten écus per ballot or who have served in the armed forces. The party that possesses a majority or coalition in the Assembly then appoints the Council of Ministers and its Chancellor, who together constitute the executive. They govern until the next general election, which occurs either after a five-year term or after a vote of no-confidence by the Assembly. At present, the main divide in Parliament is between the Reformed Party (which supports an aggressive foreign policy, high taxes, a European focus, and the Army) and the Commonwealth Party (which supports a diplomatic foreign policy, lower taxes, a colonial/global focus, and the Navy). In general, the Assembly as a whole represents the interests of the bourgeoisie, who through it mostly control French politics.
The Senate was intended to ensure representation for the nobles and the Reformed Church. As French society grew more democratic, rather than abolish this institution, the nation adapted it: today, the Senate is used to represent all those whose virtue entitles them to a greater voice in government. Its members are appointed by the nobility, the Church, the armed forces, and the universities - among a few others. Because of this, and because it does not choose the Council of Ministers, the Senate tends to be less focused on party politics than the National Assembly. It cannot originate legislation, but its consent is required for all legislation passed by the Assembly.
Unlike in our timeline, this France did not emerge as the result of a centralized monarchy; rather, it was an alliance of Protestant nobles and cities. As a result, the Commonwealth is a federal republic, though it has grown more centralized over time. Its 35 provinces, ranging in size from the vast and rugged massif of Limousin to the city of Marseille alone, have the constitutional right to collect their own taxes, run their own schools, maintain their own roads, and generally handle local day-to-day administration in any way they see fit.
France is also notable for its court system. Its civil and criminal courts are insulated almost entirely from political pressure: judges are chosen by the faculty of the Sorbonne and must meet demanding academic standards. Judges on the Constitutional Court, by contrast, must be appointed by a two-thirds majority of the Senate - ensuring that they are acceptable to a wide cross-section of society instead of just to a political majority. They have sweeping power of judicial review, which permits them to strike down laws that conflict either with the Constitution or with the "Scriptural principles" that are supposed to justify it.
--Head of Government: Chancellor of the Commonwealth Paul-Henri Maturin.
--Head of State: In theory, none; the Constitution asserts that the head of the French state is God. In practice, the Chancellor.
Demographics
--Population: 24.4 million
----Colonial Population (if applicable): 220,000.
--Demonym: French
--Primary Culture:"Metropolitan," or European, France is united by a shared French culture, though this embraces myriad regional subcultures from the Basque Country to Picardy; notably, the homogenizing influence of Paris is much less pronounced than in our timeline, and so French regional dialects and traditions remain vibrant. Nor is the Commonwealth's French culture identical to the culture of the France that we know. True, this France is characterized by many familiar features: a love of fine food and wine, a devotion to art and literature, an appreciation for beauty and a care to nurture it, a proclivity for argument and controversy, and a demanding commitment to good taste in all matters. As in our world, French culture is widely seen as a benchmark for sophistication and elegance.
But strong identification of French identity with the Reformed faith has given French culture a number of features that are unfamiliar in our timeline. The French are reflexively suspicious of absolute authority of any kind, political or religious. They are deeply committed to a Protestant vision of egalitarianism in which all people are equal in their sin, and therefore no man can regard himself as better than another. They are heirs to a cultural tradition in which bourgeois virtues are identified with Christian virtues - hard work, efficiency, progress, literacy, sobriety, piety, moderation - and both paupers and aristocrats are therefore regarded with suspicion. And finally, the French have long regarded themselves as a bastion of Protestant purity and democracy surrounded on all sides by ancient superstition and despotism; they are taught that they were chosen by God to light the world's way to progress, liberty, and moral redemption. And so French culture inculcates an intense national pride, a deep sense of national destiny, and a fiery commitment to the defense of both.
--Other Cultures: The indigenous cultures of the Senegalese coast and the Senegal River, and (to a lesser extent) of the Cape, though this is mostly a settler colony. The indigenous culture of the Bahamas is mostly extinguished, but there's an odd fusion of Huguenot, Breton, and African elements growing up in its place. The Basques are definitely not French in some ways, but are often regarded as just an unusually distinctive local variation on the larger French theme, rather than an actual minority.
--Religion Overview:The Reformed Church is the direct descendant of the earliest forms of Protestantism that took root in France in the sixteenth century in response to the writings of Jean Calvin. It emphasizes man's absolute and inescapable sin and God's irresistible and all-sufficient grace, which leads to a belief in predestination: God saves and purifies those whom He will, whether they like it or not. These, his godly elect, are then freed to live virtuous and holy lives. Churches should be organized at the most local level possible, with ministers chosen by congregations and representatives to regional and national synods elected democratically. Education is a priority, because there can be no mature faith without a personal relationship to the Scriptures and the ability to think deeply about them for oneself. Religious art, while permissible, is suspect, lest it lure men into idolatry. The Catholic Church is regarded as entirely corrupt, because it has been appropriated by oppressive governments to crush the godly; the Reformed Church, on the other hand, is strongly associated with republicanism, since it teaches that there can be no king but God, and all others are equal before His law.
At a cultural level, the Reformed Church is a staunch defender of bourgeois values: it sees nothing wrong with making money, celebrates hard work and innovation, and is relatively progressive in its attitudes toward women and the family. Most strikingly, the Reformed Church believes that its faith is and should be constantly evolving as it comes to a better understanding of the Scriptures. This idea of semper reformanda is at the root of the remarkable spirit of innovation and creativity that informs French culture, art, science, industry, and military power.
The Jews - for whom Calvin always had a special affection - have long been treated well by the Reformed Church, and enjoy all the benefits of French citizenship - save only for public employment, which is reserved to members of the Reformed Church. A syncretic form of Islam is common in Senegal, and is permitted to practice freely, so long as imams do not organize against French rule; the Cape, as a settler colony, is overwhelmingly Huguenot. The Catholic Church is banned in France; those found to practice it, as per tradition, face the seizure of their assets and exile from the Commonwealth.
Development Points
--Infrastructure/Economy: 6. Rural France's infrastructure remains relatively underdeveloped, since the polity is dominated by urban bourgeois interests. But the roads are decent, the bridges sound, and the manufacturing sector is the most advanced in Europe - and probably in the world - as innovations like the spinning jenny and reverberatory furnace come into broader use. As a bourgeois republic, the Commonwealth as a whole lacks the grotesque inequality of wealth found in many late-feudal eighteenth-century societies. Finally, the decline of noble power has led to a far more efficient use of arable land by small freeholders, with the result that France does not suffer the food shortages that plagued it in our timeline.
--Army: 7
--Navy: 2
--Military Overview:Unlike in most other countries, where war is the province of social elites, the French Army is a resolutely middle-class institution. This lies at the heart of its success: it has an institutional culture that prizes innovation over tradition, independent thought over dogma, education over seniority, and efficiency over glory. It suffers from little of the social-climbing or stubborn traditionalism associated with most noble officer classes. Commissions are not for sale and do not require noble birth; officer status is based on literacy, a good local reputation, and enrollment at one of the country's six military academies.
The French Commonwealth was the first nation in Western Europe to establish something approaching a modern conscription system. Similar to the Prussian system of the same era, the whole Commonwealth is divided into about 100 cantons. Each canton is responsible for providing a regiment, fully trained and at full strength, in time of war. The core of each regiment is a standing professional battalion, the corps des armes, which includes all the officers and most of the specialists, like artillerymen and quartermasters. Each canton's young men are registered with the regiment when they reach the age of Reformed confirmation, and thereafter spend six weeks a year - mostly in the winter, when there is little farm work to be done and the snow will toughen them - being trained by the corps des armes. In wartime, the best of these "cantonists" are selected to make up the other two battalions of each regiment, bringing it up to full strength for active service.
This spirit of innovation and professionalism extends to technology and training as well. The Commonwealth has invested heavily in field artillery, which it has begun to mass into batteries, and it uses horse-drawn rather than ox-drawn cassions to improve mobility. Every French infantry battalion even includes several four-pound field guns, typically loaded with grapeshot. On the battlefield, this allows French troops to close with the enemy, steadily firing, and then to halt and meet the inevitable enemy charge with a blast of grape. Artillery, after all, epitomizes the French Reformed way of war: there is nothing glamorous or glorious about it, but its efficient use can, with enough mathematical and logistical skill, cause more devastation than any spectacular cavalry charge.
Finally, the Reformed and bourgeois ethos is central to the functioning of the Army. French generals tend to come from the same merchant classes as their regimental and battalion commanders, and so they trust their officers to make good decisions and exercise initiative: the French officer, after all, is a literate, pious professional, a bourgeois cog in a well-functioning military machine, not a romantic glory-chasing aristocrat. This makes French armies unusually flexible on the battlefield, with individual commanders expected to seize opportunities and adapt plans on the fly. The overriding French military philosophy, strongly conveyed in the training that every young man receives, is that the French citizen-soldier is intelligent, virtuous, and godly enough to exercise independent judgment, aim, and thought in the heat of battle. And the army's morale reflects this, for the French soldier is trained to regard himself as the exemplar of the Reformed Commonwealth's highest values: discipline, hard work, education, godliness, sobriety. He may not be as fanatical as some of his foes, but he is as resourceful, creative, and unflinchingly tough as any fighting man on Earth.
As for the French Navy? It is very much the second child. It consists mainly of very large, very slow, very heavy, very unwieldy, and very heavily armed ships-of-the-line. This force is ideal for controlling the relatively small and island-strewn Western Mediterranean, but it lacks the capacity to operate effectively beyond the Straits of Gibralter, and many French admirals privately acknowledge that their fleet might well sink in the first serious Atlantic storm if it tried.
RP Elements
--National Objectives:France is an ideologically motivated state. In the largest sense, the French generally believe that they have a special world-historical destiny, which is to spread republican government and the Reformed religion around the globe. This sense of holy mission informs most aspects of the nation's policy, often in unpredictable ways. In Europe, as it has been for the last two centuries, the Commonwealth's great foe remains the Holy Roman Empire. In order to secure its position against the Empire, France sees a need for greater strategic depth, and will look to create a buffer zone or sphere of influence in the Rhineland, Catalonia, and the Po Valley. In order to secure its access to trade, France has long used its military might as leverage for favorable trade agreements against Brittany and the Netherlands, so that French traders can access global markets without leaving Brest or Amsterdam. Finally, although France has little in the way of colonial empire, it is beginning to eye the North African coast on the far side of the Mediterranean, and to contemplate how lucrative it might be if it could be wrested from the corsair menace.
--History:Charlemagne's empire did not survive his death. It clung on, at least in name, east of the Rhine. But in Gaul, it soon collapsed back into its constituent petty kingdoms, duchies, and city-states. This does not mean that the people of these various polities - who came to call themselves French, in recognition of their cultural debt to the Frankish Empire - were living through a dark age. In fact, from the twelfth century on, the disunited French lands became one of Western Europe's richest, most densely populated, most culturally advanced regions. Universities appeared; agricultural techniques became steadily more advanced, supporting larger and larger populations. Even political division contributed to the growth of an early bourgeoisie of merchants and diplomats. Conflict was constant, but rarely terribly destructive; the Norsemen conquered Normandy, for example, only to transform into yet another petty state. The French polities were proud of their differences - Norman ferocity, Occitan minstrelsy, Parisian erudition - and their many dialects of French all flourished. But without the spur of an aggressive English neighbor, they saw no reason to band together against any external threat. The King of France remained king in name only.
By the fifteenth century, the High Middle Ages in France were on the wane. Powerful forces, unleashed by the new printing press, were beginning to sweep across Europe. The Catholic Church asserted its authority, as did the powerful Bohemian emperors to the east. More and more Frenchmen, despite their different dialects and cultures, found themselves sending tithes to Rome or even to Prague. The burden fell heaviest on the bourgeoisie: craftsmen and merchants, literate men who had worked hard for what they possessed, and who were strongly influenced by the humanism that educated men in France had begun promoting as an alternative to ecclesiastical corruption. But these bourgeois humanists found themselves at an impasse: no French state could resist the combined power of Pope and Emperor on its own, and no one since Charlemagne had been able to unify France for more than a few years.
The catalyst that broke this impasse was the Reformation. From its Lutheran roots in Germany, the Reformation came to France through the teaching of Jean Calvin, a lawyer, theologian, and humanist from the Duchy of Picardy. Calvin preached that all human beings were equally and inherently sinful, and that only God's irresistible grace could save men from themselves, and set them free to live godly lives. In the face of this grace, all indulgences and offerings, masses and relics, saints and icons were irrelevant. The whole church of Rome was a scam, intended to prop up worldly tyrants instead of leading men to God. And perhaps most radically of all, no king or emperor had a divine right to rule; political power was legitimate only insofar as it was exercised in accordance with God's law, for God alone was sovereign. The king was God's servant - and if he disobeyed God, then the people had the right and the responsibility to overthrow him.
Calvin's doctrines spread like wildfire across France. The country's fractured politics meant that no one state had the power to effectively crack down on the new Reformed Church. Soon, seeing an opportunity to escape their tithes to Rome, the dynastic heads of petty duchies and the elected leaders of autonomous city-states began converting to the new creed as well. While it remained most popular with the middle classes, Protestantism came within a single generation to pervade public life across much of France.
Two years after Calvin's death in 1564, the Catholic dukes of Lorraine, Orleans, and Anjou formed the League of Metz with the King of France and sought the protection of the Emperor. Their goal was to restore the French states to religious union with Rome - even at the cost of submission to Prague. This was the start of the Forty Years' War. For several decades, French cities and kingdoms switched sides, fought each other, fought the Germans, and generally bogged down Western Europe in a conflict of impossible complexity with no clear end. That bloody chaos forged a new generation of leaders: born and raised in the Reformed faith, filled with a burning hatred of the authoritarian pretensions of the League of Metz, and accustomed to thinking of themselves as Frenchmen - not Picards or Normans or Occitans or Provençals - suffering under foreign invasion. The greatest of these young leaders was Ambroise Champion, a commander of the Lyon militia who forged the forces of dozens of southern French states into a new kind of army on Reformed principles: sober and disciplined, egalitarian and meritocratic, innovative and efficient. Champion defeated the League and the Empire at the decisive Battle of Saint-Étienne, inspiring the leaders of the French petty duchies and city states to gather at Tours to discuss a new, general alliance that could defeat the Premyslids once and for all. There, the brilliant lawyer and theologian Émile Fleury convinced the assembled dignitaries to sign the Union of Tours, creating a kind of polity never before seen in Europe: a federal republic, the French Commonwealth.
Admittedly, that early Commonwealth was far from the state we know today: only wealthy landowners could vote for members of the National Assembly, the provinces were almost as strong as the central government, and the ruling dukes and petty kings and city mayors sat in the Senate themselves. But it was radical for all that: the first true national republic Europe had seen since the days of Julius Caesar, founded on a new religious tradition in the most wealthy and densely populated area of Western Europe. And with Ambroise Champion at the head of its army and Émile Fleury as its first chancellor, the Commonwealth was strong enough to defeat the League, depose the last King of France, break through the Ardennes, invade Germany, and capture Cologne. Even a full-scale imperial intervention failed to swing the tide; Champion defeated the Kral while outnumbered two-to-one at the Battle of Mainz. In 1601, the Commonwealth traded Alsace to the Emperor in exchange for his formal recognition of French independence, and the Forty Years' War came to a close. The map of Europe had been changed forever; henceforth, the central conflict in the West would be between Commonwealth and Empire, between reformation and reaction.
That conflict flared up roughly once every twenty years for the next two centuries. When Germany plunged into religious war in the seventeenth century, the Commonwealth intervened to defend the Lutherans, and its troops rampaged through the Rhineland for a decade. Spain soon emerged as another Catholic rival for the new republic; in two wars in the late seventeenth century, France first suffered a tactical defeat, and then returned to strip Spain of Roussillon and much of the Basque Country. In the early eighteenth century, a short but devastating war with Piedmont saw the Commonwealth wrest Nice from that realm. With each war, the Commonwealth's differences from its neighbors grew more stark: its army became a disciplined force of motivated citizen-soldiers, not of mercenaries or pure professionals; its central government gradually absorbed powers from the provinces in order to run ever-larger campaigns. Even France's finances moved inexorably toward more progressive models of taxation, so that the aristocracy rather than the powerful bourgeoisie were gradually bled white by wartime expenses - allowing the economy to remain dynamic despite frequent strife. By the middle of the eighteenth century, it was clear that France had adopted a civilizational model - civic republican politics, Reformed religion, bourgeois capitalism, egalitarian society - that placed it on an entirely different trajectory from much of the rest of Europe.
Thus, the period between 1601 and 1756 was also a time of gradual but sweeping cultural change. France's new national and religious identity, once so revolutionary, gradually became a treasured heritage. Certain puritanical impulses relaxed; France became one of Europe's great centers of painting and music, of literature and drama. It was the country of Charles Le Brun and Jean-Baptiste Lully, Francois de la Rochefoucauld and the great Molière. The French Reformed ethic became a delicate balance between freedom of thought and purity of spirit, between gorgeous paintings and whitewashed churches, between sensual poetry and Puritan self-discipline. This tension found its fullest expression in the Enlightenment of the current moment, as an entire generation of brilliant French philosophers and authors and scientists and economists embrace a radical empiricism in the pursuit of rational truth - almost all, somehow, without denying the Reformed faith that has long since become essential to their identity as Frenchmen.
Even so, the Enlightenment's effects have already been profound. At the end of its last war with the Empire, in 1748, the Commonwealth allowed military service as well as property to qualify men for suffrage. This transformed the National Assembly into a vastly more democratic institution and unleashed modern political parties upon Parliament. And brilliant Enlightenment scientists have formed a symbiotic relationship with the powerful French bourgeoisie: as the former churn out a steady stream of useful inventions and devices, the latter's ready capital applies them them to the business of manufacturing. Already, the spinning jenny has revolutionized textile manufacturing, and the reverberatory furnace has doubled France's steel production. France's close ties to Brittany - however distasteful to the Reformed ideologues of the Commonwealth - nevertheless offer it exceptional access to global markets. For the Commonwealth, the coming years promise prosperity and power. Its challenge, as ever, will be to use those advantages to advance its great cause against a world that still seems far from ready for it.
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For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by Aureumterra » Sun May 10, 2020 8:21 am
by Ontorisa » Sun May 10, 2020 8:37 am
Aureumterra wrote:I will app soon, I have one question, how does Bulgaria, a Mediterranean nation without any particular seafaring culture, manage to colonize so much?
by Danubian Peoples » Sun May 10, 2020 8:42 am
Reverend Norv wrote:France snip
by Dentali » Sun May 10, 2020 9:10 am
Aureumterra wrote:I will app soon, I have one question, how does Bulgaria, a Mediterranean nation without any particular seafaring culture, manage to colonize so much?
by Union Princes » Sun May 10, 2020 9:21 am
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