You could combine the GDPs of Texas, Oklahoma and New Mexico while minimizing the whole GDP so it wouldn't be too big.
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by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 11:56 am
by Arvenia » Mon May 04, 2020 12:14 pm
by Arvenia » Mon May 04, 2020 12:15 pm
Hypercapital wrote:Trying to come up w/ issues and goals. Two issues I have, are Cascadia and New England. They look like possible threats. (I mean, they are in the Canadian Domain)
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 12:17 pm
Arvenia wrote:I got a list of candiates for my country and I am still conflicted. These are so far:
- Republic of California (California, Nevada, Baja California, Baja California Sur, Hawaii, Sonora, Sinaloa, Western Arizona and Southern Arizona)
- Republic of Korea (Korean Peninsula, Heilongjiang Province, Jilin Province, Liaoning Province, Xilin Gol, Hulunbuir, Chifeng, Tongliao, Hinggan, Jeju, Primorsky Krai, Liancourt Rocks and Tsushima Island)
- Federal Empire of Germany/German Empire/Greater German Confederation (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Alsace-Lorraine, South Tyrol, Karlovarský Region, Plzeň Region, Ústecký Region and German-Speaking Community of Belgium)
- Manchu Empire (Heilongjiang Province, Jilin Province, Liaoning Province, Beijing, Tianjin, Qingyang, Inner Mongolia, Hebei Province, Shanxi Province, Shaanxi Province, Primorsky Krai and Jewish Autonomous Oblast)
- Federal Republic of Australasia (Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Western New Guinea, Nauru, Fiji, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Solomon Islands and Maluku Islands)
- Republic of Nejd (Saudi Eastern Province, Riyadh Region, Najran, Al-Qassim Region, Ha'il Region, Al-Jawf Region, Northern Borders Region, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE and Musandam Governorate)
- Greater Colombian Republic (Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Panama, Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Guayana Esequiba, Trinidad and Tobago)
- Federation of India (Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Telangana, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Lakshadweep, Puducherry, Goa, Sindhudurg District, Ratnagiri District, Kolhapur District, Sangli District, Solapur District, Sukma District, Bijapur District, Bastar District, Danteweda District, Malkangiri District, Koraput District and Andobar Islands)
- Midwestern States of America (Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Minnesota)
- Shannonist Republic of America (Washington DC, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and Ohio)
- Maghreb/Tamazgh/Amazigha (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Ceuta, Melilla, Mauritania, Azawad, Western Sahara and Canary Islands)
- Sixth French Republic (Île-de-France, Hauts-de-France, Centre-Val de Loire, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Grand East, Upper Normandy and Wallonia)
- Kingdom of Bengal (Bangladesh, Northeast India, Maungdaw District, West Bengal, Odisha and Bihar)
- Central Asian Union (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan and Xinjiang)
- Greater Malay Federation (Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, Kalimantan and Southern Thailand)
- Federative Republic of Brazil (Brazil and Uruguay)
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 12:17 pm
Arvenia wrote:Hypercapital wrote:Trying to come up w/ issues and goals. Two issues I have, are Cascadia and New England. They look like possible threats. (I mean, they are in the Canadian Domain)
But you only control some parts of Quebec, do you? New England is very close, while Cascadia is far away.
by Arvenia » Mon May 04, 2020 12:25 pm
Hypercapital wrote:Arvenia wrote:I got a list of candiates for my country and I am still conflicted. These are so far:
- Republic of California (California, Nevada, Baja California, Baja California Sur, Hawaii, Sonora, Sinaloa, Western Arizona and Southern Arizona)
- Republic of Korea (Korean Peninsula, Heilongjiang Province, Jilin Province, Liaoning Province, Xilin Gol, Hulunbuir, Chifeng, Tongliao, Hinggan, Jeju, Primorsky Krai, Liancourt Rocks and Tsushima Island)
- Federal Empire of Germany/German Empire/Greater German Confederation (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Alsace-Lorraine, South Tyrol, Karlovarský Region, Plzeň Region, Ústecký Region and German-Speaking Community of Belgium)
- Manchu Empire (Heilongjiang Province, Jilin Province, Liaoning Province, Beijing, Tianjin, Qingyang, Inner Mongolia, Hebei Province, Shanxi Province, Shaanxi Province, Primorsky Krai and Jewish Autonomous Oblast)
- Federal Republic of Australasia (Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Western New Guinea, Nauru, Fiji, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Solomon Islands and Maluku Islands)
- Republic of Nejd (Saudi Eastern Province, Riyadh Region, Najran, Al-Qassim Region, Ha'il Region, Al-Jawf Region, Northern Borders Region, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE and Musandam Governorate)
- Greater Colombian Republic (Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Panama, Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Guayana Esequiba, Trinidad and Tobago)
- Federation of India (Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Telangana, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Lakshadweep, Puducherry, Goa, Sindhudurg District, Ratnagiri District, Kolhapur District, Sangli District, Solapur District, Sukma District, Bijapur District, Bastar District, Danteweda District, Malkangiri District, Koraput District and Andobar Islands)
- Midwestern States of America (Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Minnesota)
- Shannonist Republic of America (Washington DC, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and Ohio)
- Maghreb/Tamazgh/Amazigha (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Ceuta, Melilla, Mauritania, Azawad, Western Sahara and Canary Islands)
- Sixth French Republic (Île-de-France, Hauts-de-France, Centre-Val de Loire, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Grand East, Upper Normandy and Wallonia)
- Kingdom of Bengal (Bangladesh, Northeast India, Maungdaw District, West Bengal, Odisha and Bihar)
- Central Asian Union (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan and Xinjiang)
- Greater Malay Federation (Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, Kalimantan and Southern Thailand)
- Federative Republic of Brazil (Brazil and Uruguay)
We don't have a country that claims Ontario, or the northern parts of Canada (Nunavut, Yukon, etc)
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 12:36 pm
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 12:36 pm
by Plzen » Mon May 04, 2020 12:39 pm
Hypercapital wrote:Scandinavia doesn't seem like a threat, to me. It's likely that I'd ally or trade w/ them.
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 12:40 pm
Plzen wrote:Hypercapital wrote:Scandinavia doesn't seem like a threat, to me. It's likely that I'd ally or trade w/ them.
Norden has no interest in any military alliance or preferential trade agreement with Quebec. A third-rate North American splinter state would be quite literally beneath our notice.
Hopefully we get some European great powers soon, especially Germany or Russia, since our diplomacy will likely revolve around containing those threats.
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 12:57 pm
by SangMar » Mon May 04, 2020 1:50 pm
Arvenia wrote:SangMar wrote:
Arvenia, I asked earlier but just in case you know an answer and I could get it now, I’ll ask again. Do you know a way we can calculate GDP for our nations in this timeline? Or is there a way you’d like us to do it?
You could combine the GDPs of Texas, Oklahoma and New Mexico while minimizing the whole GDP so it wouldn't be too big.
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 2:12 pm
SangMar wrote:Arvenia wrote:You could combine the GDPs of Texas, Oklahoma and New Mexico while minimizing the whole GDP so it wouldn't be too big.
Alright, I’m working on something now - I’m just wondering how to factor in for population increase and such. My source for Texas in 2060 says that’ll have 45 million residents for example. So I went between that and 2050’s estimate of 41 million to get the population for 2056. Texas as a whole has a GDP of 1.89 Trillion USD in 2019, so I’m not sure how much it’ll increase by with around 15 million new residents.
All I’m trying to say is, I had a number - and I’ve included it, but it does seem a little bit too big. (Maybe not? Given all three states have had their population increased? I don’t know.)
by Ha Liang » Mon May 04, 2020 3:38 pm
Arvenia wrote:I got a list of candiates for my country and I am still conflicted. These are so far:
- Republic of California (California, Nevada, Baja California, Baja California Sur, Hawaii, Sonora, Sinaloa, Western Arizona and Southern Arizona)
- Republic of Korea (Korean Peninsula, Heilongjiang Province, Jilin Province, Liaoning Province, Xilin Gol, Hulunbuir, Chifeng, Tongliao, Hinggan, Jeju, Primorsky Krai, Liancourt Rocks and Tsushima Island)
- Federal Empire of Germany/German Empire/Greater German Confederation (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Alsace-Lorraine, South Tyrol, Karlovarský Region, Plzeň Region, Ústecký Region and German-Speaking Community of Belgium)
- Manchu Empire (Heilongjiang Province, Jilin Province, Liaoning Province, Beijing, Tianjin, Qingyang, Inner Mongolia, Hebei Province, Shanxi Province, Shaanxi Province, Primorsky Krai and Jewish Autonomous Oblast)
- Federal Republic of Australasia (Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Western New Guinea, Nauru, Fiji, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Solomon Islands and Maluku Islands)
- Republic of Nejd (Saudi Eastern Province, Riyadh Region, Najran, Al-Qassim Region, Ha'il Region, Al-Jawf Region, Northern Borders Region, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE and Musandam Governorate)
- Greater Colombian Republic (Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Panama, Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Guayana Esequiba, Trinidad and Tobago)
- Federation of India (Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Telangana, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Lakshadweep, Puducherry, Goa, Sindhudurg District, Ratnagiri District, Kolhapur District, Sangli District, Solapur District, Sukma District, Bijapur District, Bastar District, Danteweda District, Malkangiri District, Koraput District and Andobar Islands)
- Midwestern States of America (Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Minnesota)
- Shannonist Republic of America (Washington DC, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and Ohio)
- Maghreb/Tamazgh/Amazigha (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Mauritania, Asawad, Ceuta, Melilla, Canary Islands and Western Sahara)
- Sixth French Republic (Île-de-France, Hauts-de-France, Centre-Val de Loire, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Grand East, Upper Normandy and Wallonia)
- Kingdom of Bengal (Bangladesh, Northeast India, Maungdaw District, West Bengal, Odisha and Bihar)
- Central Asian Union (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan and Xinjiang)
- Democratic Republic of Indochina (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Isan, Yunnan, Guangxi, Guizhou, Shan State and Kachin State)
- Federative Republic of Brazil (Brazil and Uruguay)
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 3:49 pm
Ha Liang wrote:Arvenia wrote:I got a list of candiates for my country and I am still conflicted. These are so far:
- Republic of California (California, Nevada, Baja California, Baja California Sur, Hawaii, Sonora, Sinaloa, Western Arizona and Southern Arizona)
- Republic of Korea (Korean Peninsula, Heilongjiang Province, Jilin Province, Liaoning Province, Xilin Gol, Hulunbuir, Chifeng, Tongliao, Hinggan, Jeju, Primorsky Krai, Liancourt Rocks and Tsushima Island)
- Federal Empire of Germany/German Empire/Greater German Confederation (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Alsace-Lorraine, South Tyrol, Karlovarský Region, Plzeň Region, Ústecký Region and German-Speaking Community of Belgium)
- Manchu Empire (Heilongjiang Province, Jilin Province, Liaoning Province, Beijing, Tianjin, Qingyang, Inner Mongolia, Hebei Province, Shanxi Province, Shaanxi Province, Primorsky Krai and Jewish Autonomous Oblast)
- Federal Republic of Australasia (Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Western New Guinea, Nauru, Fiji, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Solomon Islands and Maluku Islands)
- Republic of Nejd (Saudi Eastern Province, Riyadh Region, Najran, Al-Qassim Region, Ha'il Region, Al-Jawf Region, Northern Borders Region, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE and Musandam Governorate)
- Greater Colombian Republic (Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Panama, Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Guayana Esequiba, Trinidad and Tobago)
- Federation of India (Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Telangana, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Lakshadweep, Puducherry, Goa, Sindhudurg District, Ratnagiri District, Kolhapur District, Sangli District, Solapur District, Sukma District, Bijapur District, Bastar District, Danteweda District, Malkangiri District, Koraput District and Andobar Islands)
- Midwestern States of America (Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Minnesota)
- Shannonist Republic of America (Washington DC, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and Ohio)
- Maghreb/Tamazgh/Amazigha (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Mauritania, Asawad, Ceuta, Melilla, Canary Islands and Western Sahara)
- Sixth French Republic (Île-de-France, Hauts-de-France, Centre-Val de Loire, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Grand East, Upper Normandy and Wallonia)
- Kingdom of Bengal (Bangladesh, Northeast India, Maungdaw District, West Bengal, Odisha and Bihar)
- Central Asian Union (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan and Xinjiang)
- Democratic Republic of Indochina (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Isan, Yunnan, Guangxi, Guizhou, Shan State and Kachin State)
- Federative Republic of Brazil (Brazil and Uruguay)
Some of these claim waay to much land like Indochina, Central asia, Brazil, Maghreb, Colombia, and australasia. i’d suggest something small that you can control and yet still relevant like Korea
by Revlona » Mon May 04, 2020 5:11 pm
Revlona wrote:[Do Not Remove - AKSAI]
NS Name: Revlona
RP Name: Bonnie Blue Republic
Capital: Atlanta, Georgia
Territory: Georgia, Florida, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana
Population: 84.937 Million
Type of Government: Federal/Constitutional Republic
Government Explanation: Very akin to the U.S system with how the government is split into three branches. Has done away with the Electoral college in most terms, instead if you win the popular vote of a state you will gain 1 "point". The Candidate with the most points wins the election. If there is a tie then congress shall vote on the matter.
Leader(s): Ryan B. Foster (President and leader of the Republican party that holds a high majority), Susan Earcross (Vice President and member of the Republican party)
Image(s) of Leader(s):
Party or Coalition in Power: Republican Party
Executive Title: President
State Ideology: (can either be the ideology/ideologies of the ruling party or the country as a whole)
Ethnicity Breakdown: About 60% being Caucasian with both African Americans and Hispanics being around 18-20% of the population.
Religion Breakdown: Predominantly Christian with a minority of atheist
Flag:
National Anthem: Bonnie Blue Flag
National Motto: Pro aris et focis (For Hearth and Home)
Demonym: Southerner
Map Color: Dark Blue
Public Goals: Ensure the status quo, peaceful integration of former U.S territory, ensure civil rights stay as they are
Private Goals: Attempt a re integration of Texas with the south, Claim Washington D.C, Secure the Caribbean
Military name:
Military branches: Army, Air Corps, Navy, Marine Corps,
Total military size: 562,000 Active, 780,000 in Reserve/National Guard
Breakdown of ground force(s):
Tanks - 1,253
Armored vehicles - 10,534
SPA - 493
Towed Art - 1,253
Rocket Art - 362
Breakdown of naval force(s):
Aircraft Carriers - 6
Destroyers - 43
Submarines - 22
Breakdown of air force(s):
Fighters - 1,027
Dedicated Attack - 453
Helicopters - 1,892
Attack Helicopters - 621
Breakdown of other branch(es):
Extra military information: The military of the Bonnie Blue Republic is made up of the leftovers of the former U.S military. Before the Union fell apart the U.S militaries largest make up was of Southerners at 40%, so roughly 40% of the military returned south to their homes, bringing with them a large amount of experience. Several major former U.S bases sat in southern territory and have since been confiscated and put to use by the Republics own forces.
GDP: 4,212,884,000,000 USD
GDP per Capita: 52,000 USD
Currency: Bonnie Blue Dollar
Currency and value of currency compared to USD: 1.20 USD = 1 BBD
Major Domestic Issues: Some racial divides still exist
Major Foreign Issues: Illegal Immigration, Rivalries with other American successor states
History:
RP Example: viewtopic.php?p=37036197#p37036197
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 6:07 pm
Revlona wrote:Revlona wrote:[Do Not Remove - AKSAI]
NS Name: Revlona
RP Name: Bonnie Blue Republic
Capital: Atlanta, Georgia
Territory: Georgia, Florida, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana
Population: 84.937 Million
Type of Government: Federal/Constitutional Republic
Government Explanation: Very akin to the U.S system with how the government is split into three branches. Has done away with the Electoral college in most terms, instead if you win the popular vote of a state you will gain 1 "point". The Candidate with the most points wins the election. If there is a tie then congress shall vote on the matter.
Leader(s): Ryan B. Foster (President and leader of the Republican party that holds a high majority), Susan Earcross (Vice President and member of the Republican party)
Image(s) of Leader(s):
Party or Coalition in Power: Republican Party
Executive Title: President
State Ideology: (can either be the ideology/ideologies of the ruling party or the country as a whole)
Ethnicity Breakdown: About 60% being Caucasian with both African Americans and Hispanics being around 18-20% of the population.
Religion Breakdown: Predominantly Christian with a minority of atheist
Flag:
National Anthem: Bonnie Blue Flag
National Motto: Pro aris et focis (For Hearth and Home)
Demonym: Southerner
Map Color: Dark Blue
Public Goals: Ensure the status quo, peaceful integration of former U.S territory, ensure civil rights stay as they are
Private Goals: Attempt a re integration of Texas with the south, Claim Washington D.C, Secure the Caribbean
Military name:
Military branches: Army, Air Corps, Navy, Marine Corps,
Total military size: 562,000 Active, 780,000 in Reserve/National Guard
Breakdown of ground force(s):
Tanks - 1,253
Armored vehicles - 10,534
SPA - 493
Towed Art - 1,253
Rocket Art - 362
Breakdown of naval force(s):
Aircraft Carriers - 6
Destroyers - 43
Submarines - 22
Breakdown of air force(s):
Fighters - 1,027
Dedicated Attack - 453
Helicopters - 1,892
Attack Helicopters - 621
Breakdown of other branch(es):
Extra military information: The military of the Bonnie Blue Republic is made up of the leftovers of the former U.S military. Before the Union fell apart the U.S militaries largest make up was of Southerners at 40%, so roughly 40% of the military returned south to their homes, bringing with them a large amount of experience. Several major former U.S bases sat in southern territory and have since been confiscated and put to use by the Republics own forces.
GDP: 4,212,884,000,000 USD
GDP per Capita: 44,000 USD
Currency: Bonnie Blue Dollar
Currency and value of currency compared to USD: 1.20 USD = 1 BBD
Major Domestic Issues: Some racial divides still exist
Major Foreign Issues: Illegal Immigration, Rivalries with other American successor states
History:
RP Example: viewtopic.php?p=37036197#p37036197
I think that is about it
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 7:04 pm
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NS Name: Hypercapital
RP Name: L'Ordre quebecois (french), The Quebecois Order (English, official), Quebec (informal)
Capitol: Lavalmontreal
Territory: Bassaint-Laurent, Nationale-Capitale (Renamed to 'Charlevoix'),Chaudiere-Appalaches,Estrie, Monteregie, Centre-Du-Quebec, Lavalmontreal (merger of "Laval" and Montreal," also serves as an autonomous area and the capitol.), Newfoundland-Labrador, St. Pierre, Aerican Empire (added, because remember, microstates and micronations exist)
Population: 81.8 (81,800) million
Type of Government: Unitary Democratic Republic (both Democrat and Republican values, and not just a "Democracy" or "Republic," A "democracy" implies voting/free elections, and a "republic" implies that said country's not Monarchist, also)
Government Explanation: A democratic republic under a Premiership, a Premier is the Quebecer equivalent of a "President" and the Vice-Premier is the Quebecer equivalent of a "Vice President" or "Prime Minister." Quebec has a Parliament (its equivalent of the US Congress, though smaller. Twentyseven PMs (Parliamentary Members) may sit/be a part of the Quebecois Parliament). Quebec isn't an Order in name only, it sees itself as trying to reestablish Justice, Fair values, and Security for all of its citizens. Quebec acknowledges the failed ideologies of Unionism and Federalism, and instead operates/functions as a unitary state, not giving any bias or dividing itself into several smaller regions/departments.
Leader(s): Jan Gauthier (Premier), Brad Guidry (Vice-Premier)
Image(s) of Leader(s):
Party or Coalition in Power: Fête québécoise gratuite (french) ("Free quebecois Party," in English)
Executive Title: "Premier"
State Ideology: Quebec's ideology (the country itself, not the politicians in power) is largely a response to both Shannonism and Kruschism. Quebec, itself, is anticentrist, anti-Canadian (or atleast, against the Canadian Commonwealth/Dominion of Canada and its beliefs/ideals/policies), Quebecer Nationalism (a remnant of the old Quebec), and anti-Quebec (the old 'province of Quebec' and its ideals, this "New" Quebec largely seeks to reinvent Quebec and its beliefs/values/ideals, and not use its French past as a crutch). Some of the old Quebec's ideologies and beliefs lingered, though. "Centrism," in Quebec is seen as a dirty word or slur, much like "Communism-Socialism" was to the US, although both Shannonism and Kruschism had Globalist and Radical Centrist beliefs. Quebec seeks and strives to not imitate or repeat the old, failed, doomed ways of the United States, Canada, and the old Quebec. And, much like the way the gov't works, Quebec sees/styles/fashions itself as an "Order," though not in name only, but to establish and keep justice, fair values, and security.
When it comes to foreign relations, Quebec takes Realpolitik/Roundhouse Politics/Gunboat Diplomacy-type stances/ Teddy Roosevelt "Speak quietly and hold a large stick"-type stances, and also, in some fashions/ways/areas, Quebec strives to 'prove itself' to other countries.
Ideology-wise, there's also a soft hatred/disrespect for Louisiana and Acadiana (seeing as historically, Louisianians and Acadianians developed/evolved from Quebec/Acadia when after the British/English seized Canada after the Seven Years War and forced them to convert, though they didn't want to convert to the British Empire's religion, so they fled into Louisiana.), for many reasons, not just historical, but also being a failed state/rump state under the US and formerly under the CSA/Southern Confederacy. Quebec generally tries to distance themselves from Louisiana-Acadiana for these reasons.
The politicians-in-power are of the "Fete quebecois gratuite" Majority, a political party/movement that styles itself as a "big tent" group for all Leftists (though obviously not far-leftists like DemSoc, SocDem, Champagne Socialists, Communist-Socialists and so on), Liberals, and Technocrats. They envision Quebec as a meritocratic order that's "socially-positive," economically stable, and progressive, though not the flawed "Progressivism" of Kruschism. Some members of the Free quebecois Party may/may not hold Anti-American beliefs (seeing America as a democracy-in-name only, as a regressive warmongering theocratic empire.)
Ethnicity Breakdown:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Metis_Red.svg/200px-Metis_Red.svg.png (Metis flag, indigenous/Amerindian/tribal peoples that're mixed)
It's hard to figure out one's ethnicity, nowadays, though it's assumed or guessed that the peoples inhabiting and coexisting in Quebec would have some descent from the Irish, French, and "First Nations," there, though Canada and Quebec were also "melting pots," leading to fascinating ethnic and ancestral results. One'd also have to take into account Americanization and Anglization, also. French and the French ways-of-life were protected for a long time, in Quebec's past. Alot of assault, ridicule, and persecution or imagined ridicule led to the French and French-descended Quebecois to have/pursue top quality treatment and top priority. One could say they were almost a "protected class" or "protected peoples."
Quebecois French became its own dialect/creole/pigeon tongue, standing out from Parisian/Metropolitan/European French in so many ways, and with mixture from immigration and migration, Quebecois became a gumbo of sorts, taking loanwords from Canadized/Canadian-ified dialects and even Canadian English (which also was a mish-mash of American and British English). Not to mention Newfie English, which sounded odd to the listener. (though this is because Newfoundlanders are derived from Irish, and the Irish were known for having fascinating accents.)
http://shop.flagshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/l/flag-canada-rep-newfoundland.gif (The old Newfie flag)
Newfies couldn't figure out a flag that adequately represented them, as they had a similar flag debacle to Canada, though they wanted to keep the pink-white-green colors. The old Newfie flag, along with other flags with those three colors can be seen and flown in/around/near Quebec.
Religion Breakdown:
Agnostics, Atheists, and Irreligious, but also Amerindian religions and customs. The traditionally-Catholic Quebec of old died out, not because of "wanting to resist or reject the old ways," but because more and more Quebecois became Atheistic, or largely "spiritual but not religious," in some cases. Also note that Islam's banned in Quebec, stemming from anti-Islam rhetoric from long ago. Some quebecois may identify as "Catholic" in name only, or because of familial/ancestral reasons. Also take into account "Catholic Atheism," or being Atheist but still having the Catholic culture.
Flag:
Three flags are used, because, again, they didn't know which out of all three to use as the national/official flag. You'd see these everywhere, though the second banner isn't flown that much. The 'original' flags fell into disuse because of associations with the old regime (both the old Quebec and the old Canada), which Quebecois generally try to avoid nowadays.
The first flag's symbolism is; Red (Rouge) for Resilience, White (Blanc) for Wisdom and not repeating the same mistakes, the Cross represents Unity/free-flowing energies, and the Fleur-de-lis represent Time/Infinity, as flowers wither away but also new ones arise from seeds and begin sprouting.
The second and third flags' symbolism are: Blue for Hope, White for Courage, and the leaf for Change. The third-and-last flag's stylized.
National Animal: Swans, doves, and generally white birds except the common birds like seagulls, pigeons, or pelicans. Those types of white birds became Quebecois' symbols, though not the Pelican as Quebecers try to distance themselves from the French/Louisianian parts of their past, not just the old regime(s), also.
National Anthem: quebec has no National Anthem but several Classical and EDM (Electronic Dance Music) or instrumental songs are played in its place, however.
National Motto: "Born under the lilies" (English) "Née sous les lis" (french)
Demonym: Quebecois, Quebecer
Map Color: Purple/Eggplant
Public Goals: Reacquiring Northeast Quebec (Nord-du-Quebec, Cotenord, Saguenay-lac-St Jean, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Anse-Saint-Jean,_Quebec#Le_Royaume_de_L'Anse-Saint-Jean (Le Royaume de L'Anse-St Jean), Abitibi-Temiscamingue, Outaouais, Laurentides,Lanaudiere), finding allies, economic/trade partners, stamping out the last remnants/vestiges of Shannonism and Kruschism
Private Goals: N/A. (Most 'private goals' and issues are party/movement goals and issues, like "Preserving Democracy," etc, etc.) [optional]
Military name: Quebecois Defense Core
Military branches: Cyberforces (Hackers and generally anyone/anything dealing w/ Cyber Warfare), Aeronautics (both an Airforce and Spaceforce), and Quebecois Riflemen, though the Riflemen are divided between army soldiers, and soldiers that act like a gendarmarie or mix between SWAT and the Marines and SpecOps. There's also the Navy.
Total military size: 1,448,728, 540
Breakdown of ground force(s):
Breakdown of naval force(s):
Breakdown of air force(s):
Breakdown of other branch(es): Cyberforces aren't just overglorified greyhat hackers, but are also basically anything and everything dealing with the Internet, Technology, and in some cases, coms, machinery and medical (cybernetics/prosthetics).
Extra military information:
The Quebecois Armedforces is the way it is, because of its history, also because it took influence from France's GIGN and other "successful" military forces. Past administrations have ran on upping the manpower, taking some inspiration from the US' military numbers, but also because of foreseeable threats in/around North America. There's also some influence from the third-world, for reasons (Thirdworld countries have holdout weapons, meaning that the war/fight's not about accuracy, etc and whatever, but about attrition and lasting longer).
Glocks are trusty weapons, and see usage everywhere in the Quebecois Armedforces, but mostly in the hands of a Blackjacket or Cyberforcer. Cyberforces, because of their nature, use small arms like knives, shotguns, SMGs, and pistols/pistollas (smaller pistols), and this also causes them to work alongside Blackjackets, though also because of their role, they work with essentially every branch - but again, moreso the 'jackets.
The Quebecois Armedforces can keep up with some nations, as due to technocratic/futurist/accelerationist rhetoric, they have some recent tech, but still use holdovers and stuffs from the 2000s-2020s, as the soldiers see that equipment as "faithful" and "reliable."
"I would rather die on my feet, than serve on my knees" is the Quebecois Defense Core's motto, also, QDC Airforce don't have their own flag(s).
Naval Jacks have no meaning or symbology other than the age-old use of telling ships apart.
QDC's Aeronautics is/are inspired by the US' ideas of a "Spaceforce," "Space Command," President Ronald Reagan's "Star Wars" and several American space agencies.
GDP:
The Quebecois Order's GDP is 4,726,160 USD
GDP per Capita: 115,627 USD
Currency: Quebecois Gen (Taking some influence from the Southkorean Won) The Gen are banknotes, similar to US dollar bills. Quebec also has coinage, the Quebecois July (Juliet), similar to the US Nickel or Quarter. Gen may come in bills of 10, 25, 55, and 110.
Currency and value of currency compared to CD (Cascadian Dollar): One QG = 97,920 CD, One QJ = 93.75 CD. (CD = 0.75)
Major Domestic Issues: Military and technological sectors/industries, and trying to stay updated,Health/Medical & Sciences, birthrates
Major Foreign Issues: New England to our Southwest (Ally or rival/enemy?)
History:Due to the Great Deterioration, and numerous other socioeconomic/sociopolitical issues, the autonomous province of Quebec "deteriorated" into Struggle and numerous militias and groups. Many Quebecois were unsatisfied with the Canadian-Quebecois status quo, the Bloc Quebecois, and the Christian-Catholic vice-like-grip they had on the Quebecois peoples. A state of unrest permeated Quebec and nearby regions/provinces. Quebecers generally wanted to break away from both Anglo and Franco ties, as Quebec basically was its own nation striving to form its own country or nationstate, a Quebec not held down by its French, Canadian, English histories. A Quebec that was just Quebecois, and not French, Catholic, or any other label/category.Many countries (India, Pakistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Indonesia, Canada, etc) continuously collapses while armed conflict breaks out in the process.
Flag-burnings, riots, revolutions, and so on lingered in the Ex-Canadian Province, and Quebec swore, wished, and dedicated itself to being better. Being better than that. Being better than its past, its history, its past ties, relations and dynamics. Quebec, in its recent history (the Nineties) voted in a referendum to leave Canada, which can be compared to Brexit, and thought of as a proto-Brexit. The "Nons" and "Ouis" fought hard on their respective sides, and mass debating and talks took place, though in the end, the "Ouis" won out. But... Quebec was still unsatisfied. Unsatisfied with everything. Angst and anger, madness filled Quebecers and Pro-Independence activists. Many said and thought that the referendum was rigged.
Infighting took Quebec by-storm. Several Quebecois partisans waved bloodied Quebec flags, and some Quebec flags dyed red, possibly the origin of the Quebecois Orders' first flag. Newfoundland-Labrador stood in solidarity with Quebec, and Quebecers vowed for a new Order. A new state, unbowed. A new state, unbroken. A new unwavering state. A new state unsullied by the past, by History. Quebecers had a sour taste in their mouths, knowing that Republics rose and fell, and several of them weren't truly Republican or Democratic. Those several were dictatorships, oligarchies, and so on. Quebecers wanted a truly Democratic Quebec. A quebec that stood for Justice, Fair values, and Security.
This led to the "Quebecois Order" being a brainchild in so many. They knew that this Order would prevail. They hoped and wanted this quebec to stand and thrive throughout the ages. Quebec wasn't unscathed, though it could be better. Many denizens of Quebec stood up and against Centrism, and the new ideologies of Shannonism and Kruschism. These empowered Quebecers reclaimed Northwest Quebec, fighting the good fight against the "Establishment Quebecois," with the Newfies and the Labs fighting alongside.
"We are not the Elite Quebecois! We are not the Establishment! We are not Canadian! We are... something different!" became the rallying cry for many Pro-Quebecois Order supporters and soldiers. Other battle-cries and wails rung in Quebecois cities alongst the Northwest, and the two cities that'd eventually become one. "Stand against the tyranny of the Maple Leaf," some cheered, also.
Some time later, the "Order quebecois" was formed. The Order, or Democratic Republic began immediately holding elections for its Interim head-of-state. The title of Quebec's HOS was decided to be "Premier," as "President" and "Prime Minister" were considered taboo titles. Titles that Quebecois looked down upon for historical reasons. Many political parties formed, came, and went. As that was natural selection. Quebecois hated the two-party-plus system of Canada, so they used the duopoly system of the US. Many parties are mixed or divided, and aren't just one ideology or issue. The Free Quebecois Party and the Justice Party became Quebec's new parties.
Overtime, the Quebecois Order grew into itself, and the growing pains were no more. Quebec had its national pride, symbols, etc and other marks of a country. Quebec's national motto is "Born under the lilies," since many allusions to flora and fauna (mainly flowers and white birds) were made in the Quebecois Order's history. Quebec's nickname is also "the Flower State."
Premiers and administrations came-and-went 'til George Lebleu's administration. Jan Gauthier of the Free Quebecois Party and other FQP presidential hopefuls ran against him, though Jan won. The Justice Party was unified under Lebleu and his rhetoric, whilst other FQP hopefuls had differing visions for Quebec. Lebleu, before becoming the incumbent, and becoming Premier, was a construction worker. Jan was a girl of many different trades, though a very hardworking and studious sort. Before being Jan's pick for VP, Brad Guidry worked for Gauthier's campaign, and before that, Guidry was a teacher.
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/happy-young-couple-28137412.jpg (Premier Lebleu and his wife)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Flag_of_Saint-Pierre_and_Miquelon.svg"...and France, where the Fifth Republic had eventually collapsed as the French military formed a provisional government..."
In-between Quebec's recent and past histories, was St Pierre. St Pierre was a former part of the French Republic. France, in-turn, was a major member of the European Union. St. Pierre's history confuses some. In the anarchy, and absence of France and the EU, Quebec scooped up St. Pierre, and St. Pierre, overtime, adjusted to Quebec's culture, beliefs, and so on.
Jan and her administration didn't have many scandals, even with her sister Aren being picked as a member of Gauthier's cabinet. Some assumed it was Nepotism, though this was false; the pickings were strictly meritocratic in nature. Aren was an accountant before being a CM (Cabinet Member), and did very well with Money, Economics and all things related to Mathematics.
https://st.depositphotos.com/1012434/4749/i/950/depositphotos_47494901-stock-photo-beautiful-woman-in-black-dress.jpg (Aren Gauthier)
Despite everything, Quebec seems to be set in the right path, the path of having a bright future.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=482636&start=25 (Aftermath, "Roll of The Dice")
by Revlona » Mon May 04, 2020 8:40 pm
by Revlona » Mon May 04, 2020 8:49 pm
Hypercapital wrote:[Do Not Remove - AKSAI]
NS Name: Hypercapital
RP Name: L'Ordre quebecois (french), The Quebecois Order (English, official), Quebec (informal)
Capitol: Lavalmontreal
Territory: Bassaint-Laurent, Nationale-Capitale (Renamed to 'Charlevoix'),Chaudiere-Appalaches,Estrie, Monteregie, Centre-Du-Quebec, Lavalmontreal (merger of "Laval" and Montreal," also serves as an autonomous area and the capitol.), Newfoundland-Labrador, St. Pierre
Population: 81.8 (81,800) million
Type of Government: Unitary Democratic Republic (both Democrat and Republican values, and not just a "Democracy" or "Republic," A "democracy" implies voting/free elections, and a "republic" implies that said country's not Monarchist, also)
Government Explanation: A democratic republic under a Premiership, a Premier is the Quebecer equivalent of a "President" and the Vice-Premier is the Quebecer equivalent of a "Vice President" or "Prime Minister." Quebec has a Parliament (its equivalent of the US Congress, though smaller. Twentyseven PMs (Parliamentary Members) may sit/be a part of the Quebecois Parliament). Quebec isn't an Order in name only, it sees itself as trying to reestablish Justice, Fair values, and Security for all of its citizens. Quebec acknowledges the failed ideologies of Unionism and Federalism, and instead operates/functions as a unitary state, not giving any bias or dividing itself into several smaller regions/departments.
Leader(s): Jan Gauthier (Premier), Brad Guidry (Vice-Premier)
Image(s) of Leader(s):
Party or Coalition in Power: Fête québécoise gratuite (french) ("Free quebecois Party," in English)
Executive Title: "Premier"
State Ideology: Quebec's ideology (the country itself, not the politicians in power) is largely a response to both Shannonism and Kruschism. Quebec, itself, is anticentrist, anti-Canadian (or atleast, against the Canadian Commonwealth/Dominion of Canada and its beliefs/ideals/policies), Quebecer Nationalism (a remnant of the old Quebec), and anti-Quebec (the old 'province of Quebec' and its ideals, this "New" Quebec largely seeks to reinvent Quebec and its beliefs/values/ideals, and not use its French past as a crutch). Some of the old Quebec's ideologies and beliefs lingered, though. "Centrism," in Quebec is seen as a dirty word or slur, much like "Communism-Socialism" was to the US, although both Shannonism and Kruschism had Globalist and Radical Centrist beliefs. Quebec seeks and strives to not imitate or repeat the old, failed, doomed ways of the United States, Canada, and the old Quebec. And, much like the way the gov't works, Quebec sees/styles/fashions itself as an "Order," though not in name only, but to establish and keep justice, fair values, and security.
When it comes to foreign relations, Quebec takes Realpolitik/Roundhouse Politics/Gunboat Diplomacy-type stances/ Teddy Roosevelt "Speak quietly and hold a large stick"-type stances, and also, in some fashions/ways/areas, Quebec strives to 'prove itself' to other countries.
Ideology-wise, there's also a soft hatred/disrespect for Louisiana and Acadiana (seeing as historically, Louisianians and Acadianians developed/evolved from Quebec/Acadia when after the British/English seized Canada after the Seven Years War and forced them to convert, though they didn't want to convert to the British Empire's religion, so they fled into Louisiana.), for many reasons, not just historical, but also being a failed state/rump state under the US and formerly under the CSA/Southern Confederacy. Quebec generally tries to distance themselves from Louisiana-Acadiana for these reasons.
The politicians-in-power are of the "Fete quebecois gratuite" Majority, a political party/movement that styles itself as a "big tent" group for all Leftists (though obviously not far-leftists like DemSoc, SocDem, Champagne Socialists, Communist-Socialists and so on), Liberals, and Technocrats. They envision Quebec as a meritocratic order that's "socially-positive," economically stable, and progressive, though not the flawed "Progressivism" of Kruschism. Some members of the Free quebecois Party may/may not hold Anti-American beliefs (seeing America as a democracy-in-name only, as a regressive warmongering theocratic empire.)
Ethnicity Breakdown:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Metis_Red.svg/200px-Metis_Red.svg.png (Metis flag, indigenous/Amerindian/tribal peoples that're mixed)
It's hard to figure out one's ethnicity, nowadays, though it's assumed or guessed that the peoples inhabiting and coexisting in Quebec would have some descent from the Irish, French, and "First Nations," there, though Canada and Quebec were also "melting pots," leading to fascinating ethnic and ancestral results. One'd also have to take into account Americanization and Anglization, also. French and the French ways-of-life were protected for a long time, in Quebec's past. Alot of assault, ridicule, and persecution or imagined ridicule led to the French and French-descended Quebecois to have/pursue top quality treatment and top priority. One could say they were almost a "protected class" or "protected peoples."
Quebecois French became its own dialect/creole/pigeon tongue, standing out from Parisian/Metropolitan/European French in so many ways, and with mixture from immigration and migration, Quebecois became a gumbo of sorts, taking loanwords from Canadized/Canadian-ified dialects and even Canadian English (which also was a mish-mash of American and British English). Not to mention Newfie English, which sounded odd to the listener. (though this is because Newfoundlanders are derived from Irish, and the Irish were known for having fascinating accents.)
http://shop.flagshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/l/flag-canada-rep-newfoundland.gif (The old Newfie flag)
Newfies couldn't figure out a flag that adequately represented them, as they had a similar flag debacle to Canada, though they wanted to keep the pink-white-green colors. The old Newfie flag, along with other flags with those three colors can be seen and flown in/around/near Quebec.
Religion Breakdown:
Agnostics, Atheists, and Irreligious, but also Amerindian religions and customs. The traditionally-Catholic Quebec of old died out, not because of "wanting to resist or reject the old ways," but because more and more Quebecois became Atheistic, or largely "spiritual but not religious," in some cases. Also note that Islam's banned in Quebec, stemming from anti-Islam rhetoric from long ago. Some quebecois may identify as "Catholic" in name only, or because of familial/ancestral reasons. Also take into account "Catholic Atheism," or being Atheist but still having the Catholic culture.
Flag:
Three flags are used, because, again, they didn't know which out of all three to use as the national/official flag. You'd see these everywhere, though the second banner isn't flown that much. The 'original' flags fell into disuse because of associations with the old regime (both the old Quebec and the old Canada), which Quebecois generally try to avoid nowadays.
The first flag's symbolism is; Red (Rouge) for Resilience, White (Blanc) for Wisdom and not repeating the same mistakes, the Cross represents Unity/free-flowing energies, and the Fleur-de-lis represent Time/Infinity, as flowers wither away but also new ones arise from seeds and begin sprouting.
The second and third flags' symbolism are: Blue for Hope, White for Courage, and the leaf for Change. The third-and-last flag's stylized.
National Animal: Swans, doves, and generally white birds except the common birds like seagulls, pigeons, or pelicans. Those types of white birds became Quebecois' symbols, though not the Pelican as Quebecers try to distance themselves from the French/Louisianian parts of their past, not just the old regime(s), also.
National Anthem: quebec has no National Anthem but several Classical and EDM (Electronic Dance Music) or instrumental songs are played in its place, however.
National Motto: "Born under the lilies" (English) "Née sous les lis" (french)
Demonym: Quebecois, Quebecer
Map Color: Purple/Eggplant
Public Goals: Reacquiring Northeast Quebec (Nord-du-Quebec, Cotenord, Saguenay-lac-St Jean, Abitibi-Temiscamingue, Outaouais, Laurentides,Lanaudiere), finding allies, economic/trade partners, stamping out the last remnants/vestiges of Shannonism and Kruschism
Private Goals: N/A. (Most 'private goals' and issues are party/movement goals and issues, like "Preserving Democracy," etc, etc.) [optional]
Military name: Quebecois Defense Core
Military branches: Cyberforces (Hackers and generally anyone/anything dealing w/ Cyber Warfare), Aeronautics (both an Airforce and Spaceforce), and Quebecois Riflemen, though the Riflemen are divided between army soldiers, and soldiers that act like a gendarmarie or mix between SWAT and the Marines and SpecOps. There's also the Navy.
Total military size: 1,448,728, 540
Breakdown of ground force(s):
Breakdown of naval force(s):
Breakdown of air force(s):
Breakdown of other branch(es): Cyberforces aren't just overglorified greyhat hackers, but are also basically anything and everything dealing with the Internet, Technology, and in some cases, coms, machinery and medical (cybernetics/prosthetics).
Extra military information:
The Quebecois Armedforces is the way it is, because of its history, also because it took influence from France's GIGN and other "successful" military forces. Past administrations have ran on upping the manpower, taking some inspiration from the US' military numbers, but also because of foreseeable threats in/around North America. There's also some influence from the third-world, for reasons (Thirdworld countries have holdout weapons, meaning that the war/fight's not about accuracy, etc and whatever, but about attrition and lasting longer).
Glocks are trusty weapons, and see usage everywhere in the Quebecois Armedforces, but mostly in the hands of a Blackjacket or Cyberforcer. Cyberforces, because of their nature, use small arms like knives, shotguns, SMGs, and pistols/pistollas (smaller pistols), and this also causes them to work alongside Blackjackets, though also because of their role, they work with essentially every branch - but again, moreso the 'jackets.
The Quebecois Armedforces can keep up with some nations, as due to technocratic/futurist/accelerationist rhetoric, they have some recent tech, but still use holdovers and stuffs from the 2000s-2020s, as the soldiers see that equipment as "faithful" and "reliable."
"I would rather die on my feet, than serve on my knees" is the Quebecois Defense Core's motto, also, QDC Airforce don't have their own flag(s).
QDC's Aeronautics is/are inspired by the US' ideas of a "Spaceforce," "Space Command," President Ronald Reagan's "Star Wars" and several American space agencies.
GDP:
The Quebecois Order's GDP is 4,726,160 USD
GDP per Capita: 115,627 USD
Currency: Quebecois Gen (Taking some influence from the Southkorean Won) The Gen are banknotes, similar to US dollars. Quebec also has coinage, the Quebecois July (Juliet), similar to the US Nickel or Quarter. Gen may come in bills of 10, 25, 55, and 110. Also note that economical standards (like the US' Gold Standard) have been made.
Currency and value of currency compared to USD: One QG = 73,440 USD, One QJ = 1.25 USD.
Major Domestic Issues: Military and technological sectors/industries, and trying to stay updated,Health/Medical & Sciences
Major Foreign Issues: New England to our Southwest (Ally or rival/enemy?)
History:Due to the Great Deterioration, and numerous other socioeconomic/sociopolitical issues, the autonomous province of Quebec "deteriorated" into Struggle and numerous militias and groups. Many Quebecois were unsatisfied with the Canadian-Quebecois status quo, the Bloc Quebecois, and the Christian-Catholic vice-like-grip they had on the Quebecois peoples. A state of unrest permeated Quebec and nearby regions/provinces. Quebecers generally wanted to break away from both Anglo and Franco ties, as Quebec basically was its own nation striving to form its own country or nationstate, a Quebec not held down by its French, Canadian, English histories. A Quebec that was just Quebecois, and not French, Catholic, or any other label/category.Many countries (India, Pakistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Indonesia, Canada, etc) continuously collapses while armed conflict breaks out in the process.
Flag-burnings, riots, revolutions, and so on lingered in the Ex-Canadian Province, and Quebec swore, wished, and dedicated itself to being better. Being better than that. Being better than its past, its history, its past ties, relations and dynamics. Quebec, in its recent history (the Nineties) voted in a referendum to leave Canada, which can be compared to Brexit, and thought of as a proto-Brexit. The "Nons" and "Ouis" fought hard on their respective sides, and mass debating and talks took place, though in the end, the "Ouis" won out. But... Quebec was still unsatisfied. Unsatisfied with everything. Angst and anger, madness filled Quebecers and Pro-Independence activists. Many said and thought that the referendum was rigged.
Infighting took Quebec by-storm. Several Quebecois partisans waved bloodied Quebec flags, and some Quebec flags dyed red, possibly the origin of the Quebecois Orders' first flag. Newfoundland-Labrador stood in solidarity with Quebec, and Quebecers vowed for a new Order. A new state, unbowed. A new state, unbroken. A new unwavering state. A new state unsullied by the past, by History. Quebecers had a sour taste in their mouths, knowing that Republics rose and fell, and several of them weren't truly Republican or Democratic. Those several were dictatorships, oligarchies, and so on. Quebecers wanted a truly Democratic Quebec. A quebec that stood for Justice, Fair values, and Security.
This led to the "Quebecois Order" being a brainchild in so many. They knew that this Order would prevail. They hoped and wanted this quebec to stand and thrive throughout the ages. Quebec wasn't unscathed, though it could be better. Many denizens of Quebec stood up and against Centrism, and the new ideologies of Shannonism and Kruschism. These empowered Quebecers reclaimed Northwest Quebec, fighting the good fight against the "Establishment Quebecois," with the Newfies and the Labs fighting alongside.
"We are not the Elite Quebecois! We are not the Establishment! We are not Canadian! We are... something different!" became the rallying cry for many Pro-Quebecois Order supporters and soldiers. Other battle-cries and wails rung in Quebecois cities alongst the Northwest, and the two cities that'd eventually become one. "Stand against the tyranny of the Maple Leaf," some cheered, also.
Some time later, the "Order quebecois" was formed. The Order, or Democratic Republic began immediately holding elections for its Interim head-of-state. The title of Quebec's HOS was decided to be "Premier," as "President" and "Prime Minister" were considered taboo titles. Titles that Quebecois looked down upon for historical reasons. Many political parties formed, came, and went. As that was natural selection. Quebecois hated the two-party-plus system of Canada, so they used the duopoly system of the US. Many parties are mixed or divided, and aren't just one ideology or issue. The Free Quebecois Party and the Justice Party became Quebec's new parties.
Overtime, the Quebecois Order grew into itself, and the growing pains were no more. Quebec had its national pride, symbols, etc and other marks of a country. Quebec's national motto is "Born under the lilies," since many allusions to flora and fauna (mainly flowers and white birds) were made in the Quebecois Order's history. Quebec's nickname is also "the Flower State."
Premiers and administrations came-and-went 'til George Lebleu's administration. Jan Gauthier of the Free Quebecois Party and other FQP presidential hopefuls ran against him, though Jan won. The Justice Party was unified under Lebleu and his rhetoric, whilst other FQP hopefuls had differing visions for Quebec. Lebleu, before becoming the incumbent, and becoming Premier, was a construction worker. Jan was a girl of many different trades, though a very hardworking and studious sort. Before being Jan's pick for VP, Brad Guidry worked for Gauthier's campaign, and before that, Guidry was a teacher.
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/happy-young-couple-28137412.jpg (Premier Lebleu and his wife)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon#/media/File:Flag_of_Saint-Pierre_and_Miquelon.svg"...and France, where the Fifth Republic had eventually collapsed as the French military formed a provisional government..."
In-between Quebec's recent and past histories, was St Pierre. St Pierre was a former part of the French Republic. France, in-turn, was a major member of the European Union. St. Pierre's history confuses some. In the anarchy, and absence of France and the EU, Quebec scooped up St. Pierre, and St. Pierre, overtime, adjusted to Quebec's culture, beliefs, and so on.
Jan and her administration didn't have many scandals, even with her sister Aren being picked as a member of Gauthier's cabinet. Some assumed it was Nepotism, though this was false; the pickings were strictly meritocratic in nature. Aren was an accountant before being a CM (Cabinet Member), and did very well with Money, Economics and all things related to Mathematics.
https://st.depositphotos.com/1012434/4749/i/950/depositphotos_47494901-stock-photo-beautiful-woman-in-black-dress.jpg (Aren Gauthier)
Despite everything, Quebec seems to be set in the right path, the path of having a bright future.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=482636&start=25
(1) Hopefully my Math's not screwed up.
(2) Yes, I did use stock images. I quite like them and I find them rather useful.
(3) Kruschism reminds me of a similar-sounding ideology/subset of Russian Communism, and a former-Soviet leader.
(4) Would "Covfefe" be/end-up as the new "Excelsior?" I'm surprised no one put that as their country's motto.
(5) It's weird that Quebec's motto is "I remember," and there's a song by deadmau5 called "I Remember." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK1mLIeXwsQ
(6) When are elections, and when would they take place? I'd like to go more in-depth with both the Justice Party and the Free [q]uebecois Party's ideologies/beliefs. I was thinking of Social Credit and other Cashless systems being a talking-point/talking-points for the Justicists (Justice Party members are called "Justicists") . I'd like to think that ideologies from the Great Depression would still be around in North America and certain parts of the world. (Technocracy, Socred, and so on) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_Party_of_Canada (English/anglais version) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralliement_cr%C3%A9ditiste_du_Qu%C3%A9bec (French/francais version)
(7) Technocracy and other obscure/"irrelevant" ideologies need their time to shine, too!
(8) The Justice and Free [q]uebecois parties, I'd like to see them as post-left and post-right (in some cases).
(9) The Great Depression seriously had some great ideologies and subsets of those ideologies, and also the Roosevelt era (with the Bullmoose Party and stuff). (Longism, Technocracy, Socred, etc) (Technocracy itself can be split into subsets, like Anarcho-Transhumanism, Technocratic Republicanism, and Pure Technocracy)
by HypErcApitAl » Mon May 04, 2020 9:35 pm
by Revlona » Mon May 04, 2020 9:37 pm
Hypercapital wrote:Revlona wrote:
I do believe your GDP per capita is a bit high, my opinion of course, but you only really see that kinda figure with really small nations like Liechtenstein and Monaco
True. I added Quebec and Newfoundland-Labrador's together. There should be a way to lower it, so it wouldn't be that number, but I'm not sure how.
by SangMar » Mon May 04, 2020 9:55 pm
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