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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:37 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Which may change if the same shit that happened in this thread gets repeated.

"if"

If you want to use puppets to throw shade at Chuck during his attempt then that's your prerogative, but it'll just mean that I'll likely submit it at some point instead.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:42 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:"if"

If you want to use puppets to throw shade at Chuck during his attempt then that's your prerogative, but it'll just mean that I'll likely submit it at some point instead.

Why go through the extra effort?
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Postby The Gilded Star » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:44 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I don't have much personally against them aside from the fact they decided to gloat about something they were effectively handed by the WA Elite.


ShrewLlamaLand wrote:You're wrong, I don't have anything personally against Valentine Z aside from the fact they decided to gloat about the WA Elite handing them 5th place in the election. I don't really care about them that much.


Dude, if you're going to bring up Valentine Z "gloating", then bring up the full context. This was the post that VZ responded to:

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ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Last post before this is eventually locked I guess.

How astonishing is it that the last placed candidate couldn't even match their vote total from the third round against dozens of competitors, in the general with only three competitors?

Round 3:
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It's just such a huge surprise that a candidate who had to be boosted to make it into the top five couldn't stay even close to competitive. Woah.

I guess I'll sign off for this campaign in good spirits, and end with a congratulations to the real winner - Max Barry - for making by far the best joke of this election:

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It wasn't VZ coming along rubbing salt in the wound unprovoked. It was you making a salty attack on VZ, and VZ responding to it. If you hadn't decided to make potshots at VZ, VZ likely would have never replied with the "gloating".

I mean, really, what were you expecting to happen with that post? VZ to just take the hits silently like a punching bag?

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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:51 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:If you want to use puppets to throw shade at Chuck during his attempt then that's your prerogative, but it'll just mean that I'll likely submit it at some point instead.

Why go through the extra effort?

If Chuck wants to submit it first then that's up to him, but I'll wait in the wings if the author problem comes up again; it's really no extra effort for me buddy, I can just sit and wait.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:58 pm

The Gilded Star wrote:It wasn't VZ coming along rubbing salt in the wound unprovoked. It was you making a salty attack on VZ, and VZ responding to it. If you hadn't decided to make potshots at VZ, VZ likely would have never replied with the "gloating".

I mean, really, what were you expecting to happen with that post? VZ to just take the hits silently like a punching bag?

Yes, because that's the only post that Valentine Z decided to gloat in... right?

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Postby Morover » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:06 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The Gilded Star wrote:It wasn't VZ coming along rubbing salt in the wound unprovoked. It was you making a salty attack on VZ, and VZ responding to it. If you hadn't decided to make potshots at VZ, VZ likely would have never replied with the "gloating".

I mean, really, what were you expecting to happen with that post? VZ to just take the hits silently like a punching bag?

Yes, because that's the only post that Valentine Z decided to gloat in... right?

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First screenshot seems unrelated to the "rigging," though you can take it however you want to, I guess.

Second screenshot is a natural response to your unfounded and (if I were Val) offensive claims.

Third screenshot is obviously a joke.

That being said, I'd bring this over to the thread that's actually intended for CCD discussion. I can tell you as a player of the game that I'm sick and tired of seeing CCD Drama elsewhere, even in places where it has no right being. I beg you to contain your drama to where it is actually supposed to be, and I know countless others concur with my annoyance at the CCD for this.

Maybe, if you actually wanna repair your reputation, the first step is to stop invading places regarding the reason your reputation is bad. I know you don't want my input in how you manage the reason or whatever, but you're doing a poor job at its management currently, so you may want to listen to me on this one.
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Postby The Gilded Star » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:10 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Yes, because that's the only post that Valentine Z decided to gloat in... right?



The last two were in response to yourself and Xaviet throwing shade at VZ. Again, if you take a jab at someone, expect a response.

First one? Yeah, maybe. Pretty mild though.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:11 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The Gilded Star wrote:It wasn't VZ coming along rubbing salt in the wound unprovoked. It was you making a salty attack on VZ, and VZ responding to it. If you hadn't decided to make potshots at VZ, VZ likely would have never replied with the "gloating".

I mean, really, what were you expecting to happen with that post? VZ to just take the hits silently like a punching bag?

Yes, because that's the only post that Valentine Z decided to gloat in... right?

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It was friendly banter on an april fools event.

Your team lost the election, get over it. You don't see Uppercut skulking about beacuse they lost the last N day.

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:11 pm

Morover wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Yes, because that's the only post that Valentine Z decided to gloat in... right?


First screenshot seems unrelated to the "rigging," though you can take it however you want to, I guess.

Second screenshot is a natural response to your unfounded and (if I were Val) offensive claims.

Third screenshot is obviously a joke.

That being said, I'd bring this over to the thread that's actually intended for CCD discussion. I can tell you as a player of the game that I'm sick and tired of seeing CCD Drama elsewhere, even in places where it has no right being. I beg you to contain your drama to where it is actually supposed to be, and I know countless others concur with my annoyance at the CCD for this.

Maybe, if you actually wanna repair your reputation, the first step is to stop invading places regarding the reason your reputation is bad. I know you don't want my input in how you manage the reason or whatever, but you're doing a poor job at its management currently, so you may want to listen to me on this one.

I posted screenshots containing the comments of the target of this proposed, and now withdrawn, commendation. I don't see how that isn't relevant?

As a player who was formerly part of the CCD, you did a better job at recovering your image than Reinkalistan has so I'll give you that. However, as you correctly assumed, I'm really not interested in your input.
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Postby Yokiria » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:44 pm

I completely understand opposition to this based on its author. It's really too soon for Rein to be trying to author proposals considering his past actions.

I will say that the Rein that did that crap to LKE was a different Rein, honestly. He's coming along nicely compared to how he behaved before. Definitely more mature. Seems like his old region really hates to see it.

Speaking of that...
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Given you're still saying things like this after you've since sworn you're done with the CCD, I find it very hard to believe you have any regret over what you did to LKE.

That doesn't make sense. The LKE doesn't have people following him around, harassing him, accusing him of things so bad the moderators have to censor it from the forums. There's no way he feels the same animosity towards them.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:18 pm

Why do people keep replying to ShrewLlamaLand? They're the second biggest fish in a rapidly declining pond that at best will never amount to much more than a failed self commendation and 6th place in an April Fools. Just ignore these losers and they'll go away.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:08 pm

Yokiria wrote:I completely understand opposition to this based on its author. It's really too soon for Rein to be trying to author proposals considering his past actions.

I will say that the Rein that did that crap to LKE was a different Rein, honestly. He's coming along nicely compared to how he behaved before. Definitely more mature. Seems like his old region really hates to see it.

Speaking of that...
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Given you're still saying things like this after you've since sworn you're done with the CCD, I find it very hard to believe you have any regret over what you did to LKE.

That doesn't make sense. The LKE doesn't have people following him around, harassing him, accusing him of things so bad the moderators have to censor it from the forums. There's no way he feels the same animosity towards them.

Following them around... here, in a proposal thread with an obvious ulterior motive, and in our own gameplay thread? Give me a break.

Reinkalistan said recently they were "done with the CCD" and "exposed" their own puppet in our Discord server. Although I find that hard to believe, I'd very much like for that to be the case because, with this proposal now withdrawn, it means I will hopefully never hear anything from them ever again.

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Why do people keep replying to ShrewLlamaLand? They're the second biggest fish in a rapidly declining pond that at best will never amount to much more than a failed self commendation and 6th place in an April Fools. Just ignore these losers and they'll go away.

That's a bit rich, champ. Have a look at our regional population graph and tell me if you still think the region is "rapidly declining"?

Given we didn't recruit during the recent surge, our numbers are going to remain stable over the next few months while just about every other region in the game shrinks back to their pre-surge population.
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Postby Kuriko » Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:11 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Why do people keep replying to ShrewLlamaLand? They're the second biggest fish in a rapidly declining pond that at best will never amount to much more than a failed self commendation and 6th place in an April Fools. Just ignore these losers and they'll go away.

I asked if moderation would lock this thread because of the CCD idiocy, hopefully they will.
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Postby Zeritae » Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:12 pm

Kuriko wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Why do people keep replying to ShrewLlamaLand? They're the second biggest fish in a rapidly declining pond that at best will never amount to much more than a failed self commendation and 6th place in an April Fools. Just ignore these losers and they'll go away.

I asked if moderation would lock this thread because of the CCD idiocy, hopefully they will.

I hope they will too. Everywhere ShrewLlamaLand goes is CCD CCD CCD, and i'm tires of it.
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Postby Atheris » Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:07 pm

Literally all that Shrewd "advocates" for in a shitty video:

https://www.captiongenerator.com/179585 ... D-is-angry

And yeah, I know I put in Valentine Z (edit: and misspelled a bit too many words) instead of Kuriko. Sue me.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:12 pm

Atheris wrote:Literally all that Shrewd "advocates" for in a shitty video:

https://www.captiongenerator.com/179585 ... D-is-angry

And yeah, I know I put in Valentine Z instead of Kuriko. Sue me.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:05 pm

Alrighty, this was withdrawn by the author two pages ago, and has since turned into Yet Another CCD Shitfest. These sorts of psuedo-threadjacks need to stop. Not every thread Shrew or Joco posts in is about CCD, nor should every thread they happen to post in turn into another "Everybody dogpile on the CCD guys!" shitfest. That being said, as evidenced by Shrew's posts (particularly bumping the NPO thread to start another CCD shitfest), it's also obvious that to some extant these derails are being intentionally instigated whether to try and lure detractors into getting in trouble or to try and get CCD more attention.

This needs to stop, from both sides. Discussion of CCD belongs in CCD's GP thread, and in related SC threads (for example, Shrew's SC proposals to repeal TBH's condemnations where "He's a member of $region!" would be relevant.) I should not be seeing NPO's thread turn into a CCD shitfest, I should not be seeing this thread turning into a CCD shitfest. I should not be seeing Condemn Psychotic Dictatorships turn into a CCD shitfest. (Credit where credit is due, that derail was shut down by participants pretty quickly.) I'm sure if I went looking I'd readily find several more examples of this dogpiling problem.

I get it, CCD is not popular within the community for reasons that have been rehashed a dozen or more times. A bunch of you really do not like Shrew as one of the region's most prolific public faces. But that doesn't mean you need to jump all over him and facilitate the attention-grabbing attempts every single place he so happens to post in. By the same token Shrew, you shouldn't be trying to instigate and bait your detractors into making you and CCD the topic of every thread you happen to post in, best illustrated with the NPO thread. Several of you need to learn to use your Foe lists, there are far better things you can be doing with your time than to beat your heads on that particular brick wall.

I am not handing out any warnings this time around, but if this threadjacking dogpiling continues to be a problem, my colleagues and I are going to have to start handing out the redtext.


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