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Postby The United Empire of Exucular » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:24 pm

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The United Empire of Exucular wrote:If a new French Empire rises in the south I'd just like to point out that they could join the Europeans in scrambling for Africa in another decade. If God saves the Queen long enough that is.


Nah, the New California Republic will keep us all in check.

My war elephants will drive them into the sea. Which I've unilaterally declared to be canon and the reason we won the American Civil War.
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The United Empire of Exucular wrote:If a new French Empire rises in the south I'd just like to point out that they could join the Europeans in scrambling for Africa in another decade. If God saves the Queen long enough that is.

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Postby Lux Pulchrae » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:27 pm

Legislation to import slaves from Haiti to save on education?

Well, actually Hispaniola is free by now.

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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:29 pm

Lux Pulchrae wrote:Legislation to import slaves from Haiti to save on education?

Well, actually Hispaniola is free by now.

Why would that save us on education? Slave trade's mostly dead at this point.

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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:36 pm

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Lux Pulchrae wrote:Legislation to import slaves from Haiti to save on education?

Well, actually Hispaniola is free by now.

Why would that save us on education? Slave trade's mostly dead at this point.

It would also earn the ire of our benefactors in Europe. I’d oppose it anyway, slavery is on its last legs.
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Postby Lux Pulchrae » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:36 pm

Khasinkonia wrote:
Lux Pulchrae wrote:Legislation to import slaves from Haiti to save on education?

Well, actually Hispaniola is free by now.

Why would that save us on education? Slave trade's mostly dead at this point.


Oh you’re right. My dumbass.

Also I had the half baked idea that because Haitians speak French, more or less, they’d need less resources to teach.
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Postby St George Territory » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:37 pm

Just out of curiosity, would a Cherokee chief be invited to the coronation?
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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:40 pm

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Khasinkonia wrote:Why would that save us on education? Slave trade's mostly dead at this point.

It would also earn the ire of our benefactors in Europe. I’d oppose it anyway, slavery is on its last legs.

Yes, it's due to be phased out. We're moving towards Northern-style wage slavery in Louisiana. It's like slavery but you make them take out loans to pay for their housing!

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Postby Mediama » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:41 pm

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Alaroma wrote:It would also earn the ire of our benefactors in Europe. I’d oppose it anyway, slavery is on its last legs.

Yes, it's due to be phased out. We're moving towards Northern-style wage slavery in Louisiana. It's like slavery but you make them take out loans to pay for their housing!


Yay! Even though communism seems to be on the rise in native France apparently on communes XD!
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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:42 pm

Mediama wrote:
Khasinkonia wrote:Yes, it's due to be phased out. We're moving towards Northern-style wage slavery in Louisiana. It's like slavery but you make them take out loans to pay for their housing!


Yay! Even though communism seems to be on the rise in native France apparently on communes XD!

Hopefully we can show off some good work and coax the French monarchist parties to work a bit harder! With any luck, we'll be in Paris by 1900!

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Postby Mediama » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:43 pm

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Mediama wrote:
Yay! Even though communism seems to be on the rise in native France apparently on communes XD!

Hopefully we can show off some good work and coax the French monarchist parties to work a bit harder! With any luck, we'll be in Paris by 1900!


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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:45 pm

Mediama wrote:
Khasinkonia wrote:Hopefully we can show off some good work and coax the French monarchist parties to work a bit harder! With any luck, we'll be in Paris by 1900!


Vive le roi!

Or, in this case, La Reine. I'm sure we'll get a Roi eventually though.

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Postby Mediama » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:50 pm

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Mediama wrote:
Vive le roi!

Or, in this case, La Reine. I'm sure we'll get a Roi eventually though.


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Postby Lux Pulchrae » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:57 pm

In my national canon, there is also a Bourbon line. Although around this time the country has just gained its 3rd or 4th independence in 1861. And while it’s maintained it’s nobility greatly, due to historical reasons, the center of power, the Italian families, attempt to stunt them at every opportunity. There might be a short crossover.

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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:58 pm

Who let monarchists in again? Smh why can’t I just have good old fashioned republican oligarchy.
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Postby Sarderia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:59 pm

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Sarderia wrote:I think West could be something of a Rotschild in Texas (also the south in general) as he has financial business, mining, and oil spread across the state. Financing business and battle but not outrighlty supporting them. What do you plan about the banking industry in Texas, is it free to bulid banks or funds must be state-controlled?

There’s a financial capital in Dallas, with three “major” banks there. The Texan financial system shall be taking some cues from the German one.

Edit: On that note, while there is some public banks, many are private, albeit the major ones center around Dallas.

I think West would have control over one of those, and Boykin the other, considering the economic duopoly in Texas currently. Oh and the other is up for IPOs.
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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:02 pm

Sarderia wrote:
Alaroma wrote:There’s a financial capital in Dallas, with three “major” banks there. The Texan financial system shall be taking some cues from the German one.

Edit: On that note, while there is some public banks, many are private, albeit the major ones center around Dallas.

I think West would have control over one of those, and Boykin the other, considering the economic duopoly in Texas currently. Oh and the other is up for IPOs.

The other one is prolly state owned.
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Postby Sarderia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:09 pm

Alaroma wrote:
Sarderia wrote:I think West would have control over one of those, and Boykin the other, considering the economic duopoly in Texas currently. Oh and the other is up for IPOs.

The other one is prolly state owned.

Just sayin' State owned banks mostly nonexistent or failed in the 1800-1900s. All the big banks in Europe and America (Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs, Standard Chartered, Barclays etc) are either private banks or public banks.
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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:16 pm

Sarderia wrote:
Alaroma wrote:The other one is prolly state owned.

Just sayin' State owned banks mostly nonexistent or failed in the 1800-1900s. All the big banks in Europe and America (Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs, Standard Chartered, Barclays etc) are either private banks or public banks.

This is fair enough, third bank is prolly some other local group that benefited from increased attention on Dallas.
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:28 pm

Thomas Jonathan “Stonewall” Jackson - (January 21st, 1824-)
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Account Name: Sanabel
Occupation: Chancellor of the Emperor’s Council
Motives: Stability, imperial centralization, smooth continuity of power, maintaining his position at the center of authority
Background:
Thomas Jonathan Jackson was born to poor parents who descended from petty criminals in Ulster, in what is now the Yankee-controlled territory of West Virginia. His ancestors fought relentless battles against Indians, they fought in the American Revolution, and they fought each other.

After being orphaned at a relatively young age, Jackson was sent to live with his uncle where he spent his youth working on a small-holding farm. Against the wishes of his uncle, he taught a slave how to read, and may have even aided in his escape. This inspired his early career as a schoolmaster in the nearby town of Jackson’s Mill, Virginia. However, he was restless and longing for adventure, so he applied to the United States Military Academy at West Point, where he struggled at first to adjust to his first formal schooling.

Upon graduation, he fought in the Mexican American War and befriended Robert E. Lee, most notably serving in the infamous siege of Mexico City wherein he carried out orders to fire artillery upon civilians, and earned a field promotion to Major. This was followed by peacetime assignments in New York and Florida. After this point he left the military and became a professor of natural philosophy at the Virginia Military Institute. During this time he owned a number of slaves, some of whom he allowed to work for freedom.

In 1859, Jackson was called back into military service commanding artillery to keep the peace at the hanging of ruffian John Brown in Harper’s Ferry. In 1861, the same governor who called upon him two years prior ordered him into action once again, this time for the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 27th, and 33rd Virginia Infantry regiments of the Confederate Army under a promotion to Brigadier General.

Despite some early losses following his heroism at the First Battle of Bull Run, Jackson proved a tactical and strategic mastermind, helping his old friend General Lee to turn around the course of the war in the Eastern Theater. He successfully held the line along the Shenandoah River, though one of his greatest regrets was the loss of much of western Virginia to the Union.

Haunted by bad orders from the Siege of Mexico City, Jackson was unconvinced when General Lee proposed he lead an aggressive strategic flanking maneuver against the large Army of the Potomac at Chancellorsville. However thanks to previous routs, the Union soldiers were skiddish and retreated too early, allowing Jackson to drive toward the center of the line and break the Union ranks. Thanks to his success, he earned the rank of full General.

With the Army of the Potomac in shambles, it was the beginning of the end for the Union cause. Jackson went on to see the Sack of Washington, helped to deal a decisive blow at the battles of Gettysburg and Lancaster, and was prepared to lead the campaign on Philadelphia when the Treaty of Conestoga was signed, formally ending the war.

After the war’s end, Jackson began the long march back to Virginia and disbanded his volunteer units, not anticipating the collapse. After the collapse, Jackson recalled his men to service, and saw a decent showing thanks to the fact that most where from the area local to his home in Lexington. A widely popular general, Jackson quickly dispensed of the local civilian government, and seized control of the highly rural areas of western Virginia, as well as the then self-governing cities of Lexington and Roanoke. He also re-organized his infamous “Stonewall Jackson Brigade” from the Civil War into a regional army called the Roanoke Rifles, which came to serve as the primary military force behind his personal authority in Western Virginia, and as a line of defense between the Union forces in West Virginia and the Biltmore Court in Asheville. Following the creation of the Empire, Jackson was granted hereditary titles over the land, providing legal legitimacy for his de facto control.

Shortly thereafter, Jackson was called for a concert with the Emperor. As an experienced general and learned man, Jackson quickly gained the Emperor’s favor, and slowly became a mainstay of his privy council. Despite his stoic yet eccentric nature, Jackson proved as adept to the inner machinations of the imperial court as he was to the battle field. He quickly rose to prominence, rising first to Lord Commander of the Imperial Guard, then to Chancellor of the Council, the chief adviser to the South’s leader. His pro-Southern no-nonsense views and poor agrarian background made him a perfect adviser to Emperor- a counterweight to his rich Yankee sensibilities. Given that he spends most of his time in the royal court, the duty of ruling his holdings has effectively fallen to his daughter Laura, though his official heir is his 12 year old son Warren Lee Jackson.

Now that the Emperor has died, there is no telling whether his place in the imperial court is safe. Only time will tell whether or not the new emperor will embrace the sound advice of one of the last full generals of the old Confederacy left alive.

Titles/Positions: His Excellency, Chancellor of the Imperial Council / The Honorable Marquess of the Free Cities of Lexington and Roanoke / Lord of the Blue Ridge Wilds / Marshall of the Roanoke Rifles / General of the Confederate States Army (Former)
Holdings: Most of Virginia west of and including the city of Roanoke, the city of Lexington, the ear of the now deceased emperor and a seat at the head of his privy council.
Politics: In favor of the South’s independence by virtue of his birth and bloodshed, apathetic on the institution of slavery and deferential on economic reform, in favor of centralization for the imperial government and former Confederate military, anti-Papist, against excessive behavior and decadence.
Faith: Presbyterian
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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:29 pm

I like how both men see what they utterly despise in the other, but what they despise is actually quite similar. A Republican Monarchy and a Republican Duke is a good laugh.
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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:31 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Thomas Jonathan “Stonewall” Jackson - (January 21st, 1824-)
Account Name: Sanabel
Occupation: Chancellor of the Emperor’s Council
Motives: Stability, imperial centralization, smooth continuity of power, maintaining his position at the center of authority
Background:
Thomas Jonathan Jackson was born to poor parents who descended from petty criminals in Ulster, in what is now the Yankee-controlled territory of West Virginia. His ancestors fought relentless battles against Indians, they fought in the American Revolution, and they fought each other.

After being orphaned at a relatively young age, Jackson was sent to live with his uncle where he spent his youth working on a small-holding farm. Against the wishes of his uncle, he taught a slave how to read, and may have even aided in his escape. This inspired his early career as a schoolmaster in the nearby town of Jackson’s Mill, Virginia. However, he was restless and longing for adventure, so he applied to the United States Military Academy at West Point, where he struggled at first to adjust to his first formal schooling.

Upon graduation, he fought in the Mexican American War and befriended Robert E. Lee, most notably serving in the infamous siege of Mexico City wherein he carried out orders to fire artillery upon civilians, and earned a field promotion to Major. This was followed by peacetime assignments in New York and Florida. After this point he left the military and became a professor of natural philosophy at the Virginia Military Institute. During this time he owned a number of slaves, some of whom he allowed to work for freedom.

In 1859, Jackson was called back into military service commanding artillery to keep the peace at the hanging of ruffian John Brown in Harper’s Ferry. In 1861, the same governor who called upon him two years prior ordered him into action once again, this time for the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 27th, and 33rd Virginia Infantry regiments of the Confederate Army under a promotion to Brigadier General.

Despite some early losses following his heroism at the First Battle of Bull Run, Jackson proved a tactical and strategic mastermind, helping his old friend General Lee to turn around the course of the war in the Eastern Theater. He successfully held the line along the Shenandoah River, though one of his greatest regrets was the loss of much of western Virginia to the Union.

Haunted by bad orders from the Siege of Mexico City, Jackson was unconvinced when General Lee proposed he lead an aggressive strategic flanking maneuver against the large Army of the Potomac at Chancellorsville. However thanks to previous routs, the Union soldiers were skiddish and retreated too early, allowing Jackson to drive toward the center of the line and break the Union ranks. Thanks to his success, he earned the rank of full General.

With the Army of the Potomac in shambles, it was the beginning of the end for the Union cause. Jackson went on to see the Sack of Washington, helped to deal a decisive blow at the battles of Gettysburg and Lancaster, and was prepared to lead the campaign on Philadelphia when the Treaty of Conestoga was signed, formally ending the war.

After the war’s end, Jackson began the long march back to Virginia and disbanded his volunteer units, not anticipating the collapse. After the collapse, Jackson recalled his men to service, and saw a decent showing thanks to the fact that most where from the area local to his home in Lexington. A widely popular general, Jackson quickly dispensed of the local civilian government, and seized control of the highly rural areas of western Virginia, as well as the then self-governing cities of Lexington and Roanoke. Following the creation of the Empire, Jackson was granted hereditary titles over the land, providing legal legitimacy for his de facto control.

Shortly thereafter, Jackson was called for a concert with the Emperor. As an experienced general and learned man, Jackson quickly gained the Emperor’s favor, and slowly became a mainstay of his privy council. Despite his stoic yet eccentric nature, Jackson proved as adept to the inner machinations of the imperial court as he was to the battle field. He quickly rose to prominence, rising first to Lord Commander of the Imperial Guard, then to Chancellor of the Council, the head adviser to the South’s leader. His pro-Southern no-nonsense views and poor agrarian background made him a perfect adviser to Emperor- a counterweight to his rich Yankee sensibilities. Given that he spends most of his time in the royal court, the duty of ruling his holdings has effectively fallen to his daughter Laura, though his official heir is his 8 year old son Warren Lee Jackson.

Now that the Emperor has died, there is no telling whether his place in the imperial court is safe. Only time will tell whether or not the new emperor will embrace the sound advice of one of the last full generals of the old Confederacy left alive.

Titles/Positions: His Excellency, Chancellor of the Imperial Council / The Honorable Marquess of the Blue Ridge Wilds and Lord of the Free Cities of Lexington and Roanoke / General of the Confederate States Army (Former)
Holdings: Most of Virginia west of and including the city of Roanoke, the city of Lexington, the ear of the now deceased emperor and a seat at the head of his privy council.
Politics: In favor of the South’s independence by virtue of his birth and bloodshed, apathetic on the institution of slavery and deferential on economic reform, in favor of centralization for the imperial government and former Confederate military, anti-Papist, against excessive behavior and decadence.
Faith: Presbyterian

Based tbh
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Postby Sarderia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:41 pm

Good Lord now I wish I'd drawn up an app for General Lee.
Alaroma wrote:I like how both men see what they utterly despise in the other, but what they despise is actually quite similar. A Republican Monarchy and a Republican Duke is a good laugh.

Both Republicans then... yee haw we fight for texas independence
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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:47 pm

Sarderia wrote:Good Lord now I wish I'd drawn up an app for General Lee.
Alaroma wrote:I like how both men see what they utterly despise in the other, but what they despise is actually quite similar. A Republican Monarchy and a Republican Duke is a good laugh.

Both Republicans then... yee haw we fight for texas independence

Not sure about Texan Independence. Now Israel, he believes the Confederacy is a regressive waste of time, and as soon as the Texan state has consolidated enough power to function properly, they should bow out.

Ben for his part believes in building a workable state in Texas, and seeing if the Confederacy can be saved.
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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:49 pm

I must remark that the Kingdom of Louisiana would not permit railroad construction without the ownership of the state.

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