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Postby Sarderia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:33 pm

Elias Harvey West - (1849 - Present)
Account Name: Sarderia
Occupation: 1st Viscount Galveston; Majority Shareholder of San Antonio Mineral Works and West Kerosene & Tar Co.
Motives: Retain the economic and political influence he has on Texas; expand the business under the West company.
Background:

Elias Harvey West is the son of Issachar West, a Texas mining magnate and revolutionary soldier, and Catherine Brewster, daughter of a prominent Arkansas businessman. West Sr. was a citizen of the old Republic of Texas, himself building a huge fortune in arms trade, delivering supplies after supplies of rifles to the Texas revolutionaries, earning the trust and favor of Sam Houston, famous general and President of Texas. After the Texas Revolution, Issachar West transformed his corporation from merely a shipping and trading company into a mineral and energy conglomerate throughout Texas. Due to his fortunes gained by supplying weapons throughout the Revolution, he earned a large amount of wealth and political power among the Texan aristocrats in that time. West used the connections and the wealth to buy vast tracts of land in the Texas coast, around Galveston, Houston, and Texas city, and sponsored the migration of European indentured workers from New York and Pennsylvania to the south.

Indeed, West's activities are one of the factors that enabled Texas to estabilish itself as a prominent regional power, and affirming its independence from Mexico. Sam Houston's regime was very American-friendly; there was basically no distinction between Texas citizens and United States citizens in the decades following the Rrevolution. West capitalized greatly from this. He was loath to use African slaves to work on his ranches, considering the cost and ranching itself doesn't need mass manpower like the Southern plantations did. Instead, West turned to sponsor movement of New Englanders and Europeans to the South. Mass immigrations such as these helped to distinguish Texan society from Mexico as more and more English-speaking immigrants began to move. By 1840, the West family are the owner of majority the land in Galveston and Houston. However, this fortune did not come without a cost.

Frequent raids from Comanche native Americans, Mexican bandits and incursions from the Mexican Army to the contested territory of Nuevo Mexico infuriated Sam Houston's presidency so much that the Texas aristocrats are often forced to donate their wealth and manpower to combat these problems. Issachar West was no exception; he often led parties to fend off Texan outposts along the Rio Grande, with significant losses of his own workers. In return, however, West asked greatly from the Texan administrators; he gained mining concessions of the lands bordering New Mexico and the Rio Grande Valley. When Texas was admitted into the United States in 1845, West's business wasted no time in making use of the lands he had bought from the State of Texas. He bulit mines, towns, and outposts along Galveston Bay and the interior, bought hundreds of slaves to work in the mines, as well as overseers; immigrants from other parts of the United States, lured by the promise of work, home, and dollars.

It was at this time that West met a wealthy Arkansas planter and businessmen, Saul Brewster. The two got along quite well, and quickly became business partners. West invested in Brewster's plantations and business ventures such as mines, ranches, and cutting timber in the Ozarks. Vice versa, Brewster financed West's ventures in opening more mines and clearing more land for livestock ranches. The partnership went so far as for them to become family; West married Brester's daughter Catherine on 1846. Unfortunately, their marriage is very cold; due to the fact that Catherine suffered two miscarriages during the first two years of their marriage, which deeply broke her feelings. West was frequently away for business reasons, either to manage his properties or mines, only meeting his wife once or twice a year in

When Elias was eleven years old, his father's company was in turnmoil. The news that South Carolina had seceded from the federal Union, followed closely by Texas, Alabama, and Virgina, hurted the exports from texas considerably high, as well as the other states that seceded in 1860. While other states might have an assurance in form of their "King Cotton" policy, ensuring financial and political backing from Europe, Texas was not a major plantation state, and such Texan enterpreneurs must turn to other sources to ensure their economical stability. For Issachar West, this means opening again the trade into Mexico and Spanish Carribean; he instead invited Spanish and Mexican immigrants to replace the halted wave of immigration from New England, and re-routed the sale of livestock, agriculture, and mining products to the south. In 1862, West freed half of all his slaves - one thousand and two hundred men, women, and children - and granted them a place to settle in Texas City, just over the bridge by Galveston. In turn, the freed slaves must join the Confederate Army under himself.

West marched with two hundred men, five cannons and two dozen mounted cavalry into Mississipi, alongside other Texan legions to join General Braxton Bragg in the state. Soon after, Bragg renamed the force as the Army of Tennessee and split the force into two halves; West fought with Confederate commander Leonidas Polk at the Battle of Stones River. In a daring night offensive, he commanded thirty freedmen and sneaked into the Union battery, sabotaging them so that the Confederate Army could seize the ridge of Stones River and win the battle. The Army of Tennessee continued their engagement in the Civil War, including in the Chattanooga Campaign, one of the largest and deadliest campaign in the Western Theatre. General Bragg's forces managed to hold Lookout Mountain, with West commanding the artillery division, but the battle cost him an eye and a leg; shattered by artillery sharpnel. His leg was amputated and his right eye blind and covered, and West returned to Texas with half of his contingent. By the time the train reached Houston, his amputated leg was so badly rotting and infected, and he died a week later in Galveston.

He passed on his inheritance to both his wife and son, with his wife managing the corporate business. Elias instead took several of his father's former contingent and joined the Confederate Army. He served in one of the Eastern regiments, and fell under the brigade of another Texan businessmen, Benjamin Boykin. Throughout the war, he quite liked the man, most importantly due to the fact that his regiment did not have to rely on Confederate supplies, like the Army of Tennessee which turned to be a disaster for his father. He kept a larger part of the bounties; including Union soldiers' gold, trinkets, and other valuable things the regiment can get after winning a battle, as a reminder. Upon returning, he found that the West company has been experiencing a stagnancy - and even decline. Boykin's conglomerate were increasingly expanding their reach within Texas, and Elias was more infuriated by the fact that Boykin managed to bulid the first railroad connecting Galveston and San Antonio - both headquarters of the West company. Furious of the mismanagement that led to the company's decline, he stripped his mother and her associates of the director board. For those who cannot be bought, the war plunder could always be used to hire a hitman. Eventually, as the South descended into chaos and feudalism, he reluctantly agreed along with the other Texan aristocrats to crown Boykin as King. Despite the businessmen in Texas had their economic freedom increasingly encroached by the state, West managed to save his fortunes by petitioning a noble title - even enforcing the local mayors who disagree with the appointment, in the face of a revolver. Eventually, he managed to gain the authority over San Antonio - the birthplace of Texas itself - and Galveston, both cities already being a large base of the West corporation before the war. And West certainly did not plan on surrendering it soon.

Titles/Positions: Viscount of Galveston, Duke of San Antonio
Holdings: City of Galveston (Galveston, Chambers, and Liberty counties), City of San Antonio (Bexar County), Midland, Martin, Reeves, Howard, Upton, Fort Bend, Reagan, Glasscock, Ward, Jefferson, Maverick, Webb, Bastrop, Eastland, Erath, Wood, Milam, Coleman, Cameron, Brown, Washington, Robertson, McLennan, Austin County, Limestone, Williamson, Millam, Comal, Grayson, Guadalupe, Grimes, Walker, Denton, Limestone, Collin, Hays, Lamar, Harrison, Bowie, Robertson, Hopkins, Orange, Waller, and Montgomery county, Mining sites (not cities or towns) in Live Oak, Cass, Burnet, Hardin, King, Pecos, Val Verde, Gonzales, West, and Llano Counties
Politics: Elias is quite liberal in political views. While he respected and supported the Emperor, and disagreed with the outrightly liberal nature of Union government, he also believes in limited government and free market, which is why he loathed the current regime in Texas as being too restrictive for economic growth.
Faith: Methodist Episcopal Church
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:35 pm

Sanabel wrote:As a rule of thumb, is an individual who rules over an entire state a prince, or does the title of prince denote a relation with House Vanderbilt

The title does not denote a relation to House Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt handed out title of nobility to create a nation he could nominally rule over and satisfy the people really in charge.

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Postby Sanabel » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:42 pm

Vienna Eliot wrote:
Sanabel wrote:As a rule of thumb, is an individual who rules over an entire state a prince, or does the title of prince denote a relation with House Vanderbilt

The title does not denote a relation to House Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt handed out title of nobility to create a nation he could nominally rule over and satisfy the people really in charge.

Who is really in charge?
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:45 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Vienna Eliot wrote:The title does not denote a relation to House Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt handed out title of nobility to create a nation he could nominally rule over and satisfy the people really in charge.

Who is really in charge?

Excellent question.

But to answer it, the smaller the jurisdiction the clearer the answer. Whether anyone can meaningfully exercise control over the whole South is the central theme of this roleplay.

Sarderia wrote:
Elias Harvey West - (1849 - Present)
Account Name: Sarderia
Occupation: 1st Viscount Galveston; Majority Shareholder of San Antonio Mineral Works and West Kerosene & Tar Co.
Motives: Retain the economic and political influence he has on Texas; expand the business under the West company.
Background:

Elias Harvey West is the son of Issachar West, a Texas mining magnate and revolutionary soldier, and Catherine Brewster, daughter of a prominent Arkansas businessman. West Sr. was a citizen of the old Republic of Texas, himself building a huge fortune in arms trade, delivering supplies after supplies of rifles to the Texas revolutionaries, earning the trust and favor of Sam Houston, famous general and President of Texas. After the Texas Revolution, Issachar West transformed his corporation from merely a shipping and trading company into a mineral and energy conglomerate throughout Texas. Due to his fortunes gained by supplying weapons throughout the Revolution, he earned a large amount of wealth and political power among the Texan aristocrats in that time. West used the connections and the wealth to buy vast tracts of land in the Texas coast, around Galveston, Houston, and Texas city, and sponsored the migration of European indentured workers from New York and Pennsylvania to the south.

Indeed, West's activities are one of the factors that enabled Texas to estabilish itself as a prominent regional power, and affirming its independence from Mexico. Sam Houston's regime was very American-friendly; there was basically no distinction between Texas citizens and United States citizens in the decades following the Rrevolution. West capitalized greatly from this. He was loath to use African slaves to work on his ranches, considering the cost and ranching itself doesn't need mass manpower like the Southern plantations did. Instead, West turned to sponsor movement of New Englanders and Europeans to the South. Mass immigrations such as these helped to distinguish Texan society from Mexico as more and more English-speaking immigrants began to move. By 1840, the West family are the owner of majority the land in Galveston and Houston. However, this fortune did not come without a cost.

Frequent raids from Comanche native Americans, Mexican bandits and incursions from the Mexican Army to the contested territory of Nuevo Mexico infuriated Sam Houston's presidency so much that the Texas aristocrats are often forced to donate their wealth and manpower to combat these problems. Issachar West was no exception; he often led parties to fend off Texan outposts along the Rio Grande, with significant losses of his own workers. In return, however, West asked greatly from the Texan administrators; he gained mining concessions of the lands bordering New Mexico and the Rio Grande Valley. When Texas was admitted into the United States in 1845, West's business wasted no time in making use of the lands he had bought from the State of Texas. He bulit mines, towns, and outposts along the Rio Grande and El Paso, bought hundreds of slaves to work in the mines, as well as overseers; immigrants from other parts of the United States, lured by the promise of work, home, and dollars.

It was at this time that West met a wealthy Arkansas planter and businessmen, Saul Brewster. The two got along quite well, and quickly became business partners. West invested in Brewster's plantations and business ventures such as mines, ranches, and cutting timber in the Ozarks. Vice versa, Brewster financed West's ventures in opening more mines and clearing more land for livestock ranches. The partnership went so far as for them to become family; West married Brester's daughter Catherine on 1846. Unfortunately, their marriage is very cold; due to the fact that Catherine suffered two miscarriages during the first two years of their marriage, which deeply broke her feelings. West was frequently away for business reasons, either to manage his properties or mines, only meeting his wife once or twice a year in

When Elias was eleven years old, his father's company was in turnmoil. The news that South Carolina had seceded from the federal Union, followed closely by Texas, Alabama, and Virgina, hurted the exports from texas considerably high, as well as the other states that seceded in 1860. While other states might have an assurance in form of their "King Cotton" policy, ensuring financial and political backing from Europe, Texas was not a major plantation state, and such Texan enterpreneurs must turn to other sources to ensure their economical stability. For Issachar West, this means opening again the trade into Mexico and Spanish Carribean; he instead invited Spanish and Mexican immigrants to replace the halted wave of immigration from New England, and re-routed the sale of livestock, agriculture, and mining products to the south. In 1862, West freed half of all his slaves - one thousand and two hundred men, women, and children - and granted them a place to settle in Texas City, just over the bridge by Galveston. In turn, the freed slaves must join the Confederate Army under himself.

West marched with two hundred men, five cannons and two dozen mounted cavalry into Mississipi, alongside other Texan legions to join General Braxton Bragg in the state. Soon after, Bragg renamed the force as the Army of Tennessee and split the force into two halves; West fought with Confederate commander Leonidas Polk at the Battle of Stones River. In a daring night offensive, he commanded thirty freedmen and sneaked into the Union battery, sabotaging them so that the Confederate Army could seize the ridge of Stones River and win the battle. The Army of Tennessee continued their engagement in the Civil War, including in the Chattanooga Campaign, one of the largest and deadliest campaign in the Western Theatre. General Bragg's forces managed to hold Lookout Mountain, with West commanding the artillery division, but the battle cost him an eye and a leg; shattered by artillery sharpnel. His leg was amputated and his right eye blind and covered, and West returned to Texas with half of his contingent. By the time the train reached Houston, his amputated leg was so badly rotting and infected, and he died a week later in Galveston.

He passed on his inheritance to both his wife and son, with his wife managing the corporate business. Elias instead took several of his father's former contingent and joined the Confederate Army. He served in one of the Eastern regiments, and fell under the brigade of another Texan businessmen, Benjamin Boykin. Throughout the war, he quite liked the man, most importantly due to the fact that his regiment did not have to rely on Confederate supplies, like the Army of Tennessee which turned to be a disaster for his father. He kept a larger part of the bounties; including Union soldiers' gold, trinkets, and other valuable things the regiment can get after winning a battle, as a reminder. Upon returning, he found that the West company has been experiencing a stagnancy - and even decline. Boykin's conglomerate were increasingly expanding their reach within Texas, and Elias was more infuriated by the fact that Boykin managed to bulid the first railroad connecting Galveston and San Antonio - both headquarters of the West company. Furious of the mismanagement that led to the company's decline, he stripped his mother and her associates of the director board. For those who cannot be bought, the war plunder could always be used to hire a hitman. Eventually, as the South descended into chaos and feudalism, he reluctantly agreed along with the other Texan aristocrats to crown Boykin as King. Despite the businessmen in Texas had their economic freedom increasingly encroached by the state, West managed to save his fortunes by petitioning a noble title - even enforcing the local mayors who disagree with the appointment, in the face of a revolver. Eventually, he managed to gain the authority over San Antonio - the birthplace of Texas itself - and Galveston, both cities already being a large base of the West corporation before the war. And West certainly did not plan on surrendering it soon.

Titles/Positions: Viscount of Galveston, Duke of San Antonio
Holdings: City of Galveston (Galveston, Chambers, and Liberty counties), City of San Antonio (Bexar County), Midland county, Mining sites (not cities or towns) in Live Oak, Cass, Burnet, Hardin, King, and Llano Counties
Politics: Elias is quite liberal in political views. While he respected and supported the Emperor, and disagreed with the outrightly liberal nature of Union government, he also believes in limited government and free market, which is why he loathed the current regime in Texas as being too restrictive for economic growth.
Faith: Methodist Episcopal Church

This is accepted. Do our other Texan friends have any OOC concerns with the app that we ought to resolve?
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Postby SangMar » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:47 pm

I’ll just put a message here, so I can come back to it tomorrow.

Also, would it be possibly to create a military character? Not necessarily one who is currently fighting/leading a feudalistic post-bellum Southern state, but one who has done before?

EDIT: Has fought before, not led a nation.
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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:48 pm

Vienna Eliot wrote:
Sanabel wrote:As a rule of thumb, is an individual who rules over an entire state a prince, or does the title of prince denote a relation with House Vanderbilt

The title does not denote a relation to House Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt handed out title of nobility to create a nation he could nominally rule over and satisfy the people really in charge.

I mean, for Louisiana what happened is the wealthy francophones saw an opportunity to regain control by instating a French monarch, which has led to the south of the state being absolutist and more anglo areas being more feudal.

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Postby Sarderia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:52 pm

Vienna Eliot wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Who is really in charge?

Excellent question.

But to answer it, the smaller the jurisdiction the clearer the answer. Whether anyone can meaningfully exercise control over the whole South is the central theme of this roleplay.

Sarderia wrote:
Elias Harvey West - (1849 - Present)
Account Name: Sarderia
Occupation: 1st Viscount Galveston; Majority Shareholder of San Antonio Mineral Works and West Kerosene & Tar Co.
Motives: Retain the economic and political influence he has on Texas; expand the business under the West company.
Background:

Elias Harvey West is the son of Issachar West, a Texas mining magnate and revolutionary soldier, and Catherine Brewster, daughter of a prominent Arkansas businessman. West Sr. was a citizen of the old Republic of Texas, himself building a huge fortune in arms trade, delivering supplies after supplies of rifles to the Texas revolutionaries, earning the trust and favor of Sam Houston, famous general and President of Texas. After the Texas Revolution, Issachar West transformed his corporation from merely a shipping and trading company into a mineral and energy conglomerate throughout Texas. Due to his fortunes gained by supplying weapons throughout the Revolution, he earned a large amount of wealth and political power among the Texan aristocrats in that time. West used the connections and the wealth to buy vast tracts of land in the Texas coast, around Galveston, Houston, and Texas city, and sponsored the migration of European indentured workers from New York and Pennsylvania to the south.

Indeed, West's activities are one of the factors that enabled Texas to estabilish itself as a prominent regional power, and affirming its independence from Mexico. Sam Houston's regime was very American-friendly; there was basically no distinction between Texas citizens and United States citizens in the decades following the Rrevolution. West capitalized greatly from this. He was loath to use African slaves to work on his ranches, considering the cost and ranching itself doesn't need mass manpower like the Southern plantations did. Instead, West turned to sponsor movement of New Englanders and Europeans to the South. Mass immigrations such as these helped to distinguish Texan society from Mexico as more and more English-speaking immigrants began to move. By 1840, the West family are the owner of majority the land in Galveston and Houston. However, this fortune did not come without a cost.

Frequent raids from Comanche native Americans, Mexican bandits and incursions from the Mexican Army to the contested territory of Nuevo Mexico infuriated Sam Houston's presidency so much that the Texas aristocrats are often forced to donate their wealth and manpower to combat these problems. Issachar West was no exception; he often led parties to fend off Texan outposts along the Rio Grande, with significant losses of his own workers. In return, however, West asked greatly from the Texan administrators; he gained mining concessions of the lands bordering New Mexico and the Rio Grande Valley. When Texas was admitted into the United States in 1845, West's business wasted no time in making use of the lands he had bought from the State of Texas. He bulit mines, towns, and outposts along the Rio Grande and El Paso, bought hundreds of slaves to work in the mines, as well as overseers; immigrants from other parts of the United States, lured by the promise of work, home, and dollars.

It was at this time that West met a wealthy Arkansas planter and businessmen, Saul Brewster. The two got along quite well, and quickly became business partners. West invested in Brewster's plantations and business ventures such as mines, ranches, and cutting timber in the Ozarks. Vice versa, Brewster financed West's ventures in opening more mines and clearing more land for livestock ranches. The partnership went so far as for them to become family; West married Brester's daughter Catherine on 1846. Unfortunately, their marriage is very cold; due to the fact that Catherine suffered two miscarriages during the first two years of their marriage, which deeply broke her feelings. West was frequently away for business reasons, either to manage his properties or mines, only meeting his wife once or twice a year in

When Elias was eleven years old, his father's company was in turnmoil. The news that South Carolina had seceded from the federal Union, followed closely by Texas, Alabama, and Virgina, hurted the exports from texas considerably high, as well as the other states that seceded in 1860. While other states might have an assurance in form of their "King Cotton" policy, ensuring financial and political backing from Europe, Texas was not a major plantation state, and such Texan enterpreneurs must turn to other sources to ensure their economical stability. For Issachar West, this means opening again the trade into Mexico and Spanish Carribean; he instead invited Spanish and Mexican immigrants to replace the halted wave of immigration from New England, and re-routed the sale of livestock, agriculture, and mining products to the south. In 1862, West freed half of all his slaves - one thousand and two hundred men, women, and children - and granted them a place to settle in Texas City, just over the bridge by Galveston. In turn, the freed slaves must join the Confederate Army under himself.

West marched with two hundred men, five cannons and two dozen mounted cavalry into Mississipi, alongside other Texan legions to join General Braxton Bragg in the state. Soon after, Bragg renamed the force as the Army of Tennessee and split the force into two halves; West fought with Confederate commander Leonidas Polk at the Battle of Stones River. In a daring night offensive, he commanded thirty freedmen and sneaked into the Union battery, sabotaging them so that the Confederate Army could seize the ridge of Stones River and win the battle. The Army of Tennessee continued their engagement in the Civil War, including in the Chattanooga Campaign, one of the largest and deadliest campaign in the Western Theatre. General Bragg's forces managed to hold Lookout Mountain, with West commanding the artillery division, but the battle cost him an eye and a leg; shattered by artillery sharpnel. His leg was amputated and his right eye blind and covered, and West returned to Texas with half of his contingent. By the time the train reached Houston, his amputated leg was so badly rotting and infected, and he died a week later in Galveston.

He passed on his inheritance to both his wife and son, with his wife managing the corporate business. Elias instead took several of his father's former contingent and joined the Confederate Army. He served in one of the Eastern regiments, and fell under the brigade of another Texan businessmen, Benjamin Boykin. Throughout the war, he quite liked the man, most importantly due to the fact that his regiment did not have to rely on Confederate supplies, like the Army of Tennessee which turned to be a disaster for his father. He kept a larger part of the bounties; including Union soldiers' gold, trinkets, and other valuable things the regiment can get after winning a battle, as a reminder. Upon returning, he found that the West company has been experiencing a stagnancy - and even decline. Boykin's conglomerate were increasingly expanding their reach within Texas, and Elias was more infuriated by the fact that Boykin managed to bulid the first railroad connecting Galveston and San Antonio - both headquarters of the West company. Furious of the mismanagement that led to the company's decline, he stripped his mother and her associates of the director board. For those who cannot be bought, the war plunder could always be used to hire a hitman. Eventually, as the South descended into chaos and feudalism, he reluctantly agreed along with the other Texan aristocrats to crown Boykin as King. Despite the businessmen in Texas had their economic freedom increasingly encroached by the state, West managed to save his fortunes by petitioning a noble title - even enforcing the local mayors who disagree with the appointment, in the face of a revolver. Eventually, he managed to gain the authority over San Antonio - the birthplace of Texas itself - and Galveston, both cities already being a large base of the West corporation before the war. And West certainly did not plan on surrendering it soon.

Titles/Positions: Viscount of Galveston, Duke of San Antonio
Holdings: City of Galveston (Galveston, Chambers, and Liberty counties), City of San Antonio (Bexar County), Midland county, Mining sites (not cities or towns) in Live Oak, Cass, Burnet, Hardin, King, and Llano Counties
Politics: Elias is quite liberal in political views. While he respected and supported the Emperor, and disagreed with the outrightly liberal nature of Union government, he also believes in limited government and free market, which is why he loathed the current regime in Texas as being too restrictive for economic growth.
Faith: Methodist Episcopal Church

This is accepted. Do our other Texan friends have any OOC concerns with the app that we ought to resolve?

Nothing. The railroad is His Majesty's and El Paso is the Ranger's. I don't think there's any other Texas apps.
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:00 pm

SangMar wrote:I’ll just put a message here, so I can come back to it tomorrow.

Also, would it be possibly to create a military character? Not necessarily one who is currently fighting/leading a feudalistic post-bellum Southern state, but one who has done before?

EDIT: Has fought before, not led a nation.

Yes, that is allowed.

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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:07 pm

I have nothing to complain about with Sard within the OOC realm, no.
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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:36 pm

Expect an application soon from a friend of mine for Ernestine's Lady-in-waiting. Given that such positions are traditionally(at least in France) to have the lady-in-waiting be of noble birth and raised alongside the Queen. As such, we've taken the liberty of making a select few details about the Duke of Lafayette(The Parish. The city would be Count or a lower title). While we have endeavoured to keep these details to a minimum, should someone desire to play as the Duke of Lafayette, there are naturally some. As such, (assuming the lady-in-waiting is accepted) I would like to request the Duke of Lafayette be added to the roster with a sort of footnote attached, to facilitate this. I imagine some people might not mind having a few constraints to what their character might be, as it provides predetermined structure, so I want to leave the position open should such a thing occur, without invalidating the details of Amelie(the prospective LIN).

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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:43 pm

How are blacks in the North doing by the way?
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Gave our characters a chance to share a drink together instead of being wall flowers all night lol.
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Postby Sarderia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:52 pm

Alaroma wrote:I have nothing to complain about with Sard within the OOC realm, no.

I think West could be something of a Rotschild in Texas (also the south in general) as he has financial business, mining, and oil spread across the state. Financing business and battle but not outrighlty supporting them. What do you plan about the banking industry in Texas, is it free to bulid banks or funds must be state-controlled?
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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:01 pm

Sarderia wrote:
Alaroma wrote:I have nothing to complain about with Sard within the OOC realm, no.

I think West could be something of a Rotschild in Texas (also the south in general) as he has financial business, mining, and oil spread across the state. Financing business and battle but not outrighlty supporting them. What do you plan about the banking industry in Texas, is it free to bulid banks or funds must be state-controlled?

There’s a financial capital in Dallas, with three “major” banks there. The Texan financial system shall be taking some cues from the German one.

Edit: On that note, while there is some public banks, many are private, albeit the major ones center around Dallas.
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Postby Lux Pulchrae » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:03 pm

I made a small edit simply giving my name to the queen. Just in case.

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Motives: To serve the queen, to spread French influence and to expand the arts in Louisiana, to gain favor with the queen.
Background: Despite her name, Amelie never exactly had seen the full benefits of being in the House of Orléans. Born as the younger of two children in the family, a daughter more so, she wasn't in line to be an heir or anything. Her great-grandfather, Antoine Phillipe, had left France and was expelled with his younger brother to the United States during the French revolution, and through some escapade in attempt to return to France, eventually moved over to England. He eventually married Lady Charlotte Adelaide Constantia Rawdon of England, and together they had moved to Quebec in an attempt to preserve the French heritage. Although the next generation decided to stay in Canada, and had no motivation to move back to the United States, the following generation, her father and mother, decided to move to Louisiana for monetary opportunity growing sugar and to make a name for himself outside of the shadow of his older brother.

During their time in Louisiana, they gave birth to a son, her older brother Alexander Philippe D 'Orléans, and a daughter, Amelie herself, and they all had lived a relatively peaceful life, with the exception of her older brother's enlistment into the Confederate Army as an officer. Their time after the Civil War was relatively peaceful, but that peace became rather fractured as time went on, until it reached a breaking point with the death of the Confederate Emperor.

With the dissolution of the Confederate States of America, and its devolution into a feudalistic system, regional power vacuums formed within the remains of the once united confederacy. Among them was a resurgent French Monarchy in Louisiana and its return to its Bourbon roots. At the behest of the surviving Bourbon house, plenty of French nobility surged into Louisiana, now free to restore the royalty that they had lost over sixty years ago.

Amelie's family had the upper hand at gaining some reasonable power than the newly arrived nobility. Alexander's prior military service, combined with a strong relationship that both the Orléans and Bourbon families had since the days of yore, the Orléans family gained some power in the form of the Duchy of Lafayette for her father, and to the extent to her older brother, Alexander.

Amelie herself, soon found herself within the company of their daughter Princess Ernestine-Louise Charlotte. For most of their childhood, both she and the princess grew up together and kept many a secret, and both learned alongside one another, with Ernestine as the queen, and Amelie as a lady-in-waiting. As she grew within the nobility, Amelie developed a love for the arts, learning to play the piano, sing, paint, fence, and dance.

Her training soon saw its time for action, as Ernestine ascended to the throne at age 12, and soon Amelie found herself thrust into the world of the higher echelons of French monarchy, with the future uncertain, and certainly more dangerous for the teenage, as she entered a world of scandal and intrigue.

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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:09 pm

>Spread French influence

Okay that’s it, Anglo gang Unite s/
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Postby Mediama » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:10 pm

Alaroma wrote:>Spread French influence

Okay that’s it, Anglo gang Unite s/


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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:11 pm

Alaroma wrote:>Spread French influence

Okay that’s it, Anglo gang Unite s/

I think you mean:

">Spread

Okay, that's it, Anglo gang /s


Your Frenchification is already 29% complete. No escape!

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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:13 pm

Mediama wrote:
Alaroma wrote:>Spread French influence

Okay that’s it, Anglo gang Unite s/


The baguettes, strange cheeses, and wines will rule all!

I disagree, leave me to my sausage, sliced bread, and cheap whiskey
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Postby Mediama » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:14 pm

Alaroma wrote: sausage


UwU.

Also, sausages are German aren't they?
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If a new French Empire rises in the south I'd just like to point out that they could join the Europeans in scrambling for Africa in another decade. If God saves the Queen long enough that is.
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Postby Alaroma » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:18 pm

Mediama wrote:
Alaroma wrote: sausage


UwU.

Also, sausages are German aren't you?

Well, the English like their sausage too, but we do have Germans among us as well.
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Postby Mediama » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:19 pm

The United Empire of Exucular wrote:If a new French Empire rises in the south I'd just like to point out that they could join the Europeans in scrambling for Africa in another decade. If God saves the Queen long enough that is.


Nah, the New California Republic will keep us all in check.
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Postby Khasinkonia » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:22 pm

The United Empire of Exucular wrote:If a new French Empire rises in the south I'd just like to point out that they could join the Europeans in scrambling for Africa in another decade. If God saves the Queen long enough that is.

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