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2020 US General Election Thread V: Pandemic Postpones Polls

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Are You Worried About Covid-19 Cancelling or Postponing Your Election?

Yes
33
24%
No
61
44%
Covid? Just A Chinese-Lizard People-Naked Mole Rat Conspiracy!
8
6%
I, For One, Welcome/Write-In Our New Corona Overlords.
38
27%
 
Total votes : 140

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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:37 am

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Kruiven wrote:Not really. Moderate Dems quite happily welcomed Bloomberg, a dude who was a Republican until 13 seconds ago and who gave a speech at the 2004 RNC. Why? He was a registered Dem of course.


Bloomberg didn't win a single election and saying that Democrats would vote for Hitler is so dumb it doesn't warrant further discussion.

Doesn't warrant further discussion because it's true if he was a registered Dem.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:38 am

Kruiven wrote:
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Bloomberg didn't win a single election and saying that Democrats would vote for Hitler is so dumb it doesn't warrant further discussion.

Doesn't warrant further discussion because it's true if he was a registered Dem.

No it isn't Your being downright offensive now

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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:39 am

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Kruiven wrote:Yeah uh no.


Show us then.

Do you not have google? Bloomberg received about 10% in states across Super Tuesday even after his god awful debate performances.
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:40 am

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Kruiven wrote:Yeah uh no.

Did you not watch primary results or do you live in an alternate reality?

Coming from you I...can't.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:41 am

Kruiven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Show us then.

Do you not have google? Bloomberg received about 10% in states across Super Tuesday even after his god awful debate performances.


If he was as much of a darling of the Moderates as you claim, why was his only win among voters in American Samoa?
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Postby Cisairse » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:41 am

Kruiven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Show us then.

Do you not have google? Bloomberg received about 10% in states across Super Tuesday even after his god awful debate performances.


Which is WAY less than Bernie Sanders.
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:42 am

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Kruiven wrote:Do you not have google? Bloomberg received about 10% in states across Super Tuesday even after his god awful debate performances.


If he was as much of a darling of the Moderates as you claim, why was his only win among voters in American Samoa?

Getting 10% to 15% across states despite being thumped in two highly watched debates doesn't seem like an overwhelming "fuck off" from moderates. Seems like an awful lot still cast their ballot for him.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:42 am

Kruiven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Show us then.

Do you not have google? Bloomberg received about 10% in states across Super Tuesday even after his god awful debate performances.


So what? He barely got any delegates.

Kruiven wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Did you not watch primary results or do you live in an alternate reality?

Coming from you I...can't.


Why do you disparage anyone who doesn't;'t support your candidate? Are people not allowed to disagree with you? Do you have evidence of mass voting rigging?

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:44 am

Kruiven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
If he was as much of a darling of the Moderates as you claim, why was his only win among voters in American Samoa?

Getting 10% to 15% across states despite being thumped in two highly watched debates doesn't seem like an overwhelming "fuck off" from moderates. Seems like an awful lot still cast their ballot for him.


And despite being the darling of the Moderates he never did better than third place.
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:44 am

San Lumen wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Do you not have google? Bloomberg received about 10% in states across Super Tuesday even after his god awful debate performances.


So what? He barely got any delegates.

Kruiven wrote:Coming from you I...can't.


Why do you disparage anyone who doesn't;'t support your candidate? Are people not allowed to disagree with you? Do you have evidence of mass voting rigging?

Is your teleprompter broken or something again what is with you and this mass voting rigging thing. I'm not even going to respond to you at this point.
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:45 am

Vassenor wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Getting 10% to 15% across states despite being thumped in two highly watched debates doesn't seem like an overwhelming "fuck off" from moderates. Seems like an awful lot still cast their ballot for him.


And despite being the darling of the Moderates he never did better than third place.

I never claimed he was a darling of the Moderates. I claimed he was welcomed by them. Which he clearly was.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:46 am

Kruiven wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
So what? He barely got any delegates.



Why do you disparage anyone who doesn't;'t support your candidate? Are people not allowed to disagree with you? Do you have evidence of mass voting rigging?

Is your teleprompter broken or something again what is with you and this mass voting rigging thing. I'm not even going to respond to you at this point.

Why are People not allowed to vote for different candidates from yours? Its a valid point i think since you seem to believe there is some mass conspiracy against Bernie and you've yet to provide any proof whatsoever

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:46 am

Kruiven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And despite being the darling of the Moderates he never did better than third place.

I never claimed he was a darling of the Moderates. I claimed he was welcomed by them. Which he clearly was.


By claiming it would prove that the Dems would nominate Hitler before Sanders. Hyperbole is not good debate.
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
Kruiven wrote:I never claimed he was a darling of the Moderates. I claimed he was welcomed by them. Which he clearly was.


By claiming it would prove that the Dems would nominate Hitler before Sanders. Hyperbole is not good debate.

Oh many certainly would if he was a registered Dem while Sanders wasn't.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:49 am

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You do realize that Biden and Sanders's platforms are about 85% identical, right?


Platforms don't matter as much as a candidates records and in Bidens case his statements behind closed doors. He's always been a fairly center/right of center Dem and he's been quite clear he's just trying to return to the status quo. Putting some things on a website to try and win over people isn't that convincing, to me at least.


You realize that it is possible to change the stuff that is bad while keeping the good parts of the status quo?

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:50 am

Kruiven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
By claiming it would prove that the Dems would nominate Hitler before Sanders. Hyperbole is not good debate.

Oh many certainly would if he was a registered Dem while Sanders wasn't.


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:52 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Platforms don't matter as much as a candidates records and in Bidens case his statements behind closed doors. He's always been a fairly center/right of center Dem and he's been quite clear he's just trying to return to the status quo. Putting some things on a website to try and win over people isn't that convincing, to me at least.


You realize that it is possible to change the stuff that is bad while keeping the good parts of the status quo?


There are no good parts of the status quo.
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:53 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
You realize that it is possible to change the stuff that is bad while keeping the good parts of the status quo?


There are no good parts of the status quo.

That's very insulting. That goes against the Dem Party motto.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:56 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Platforms don't matter as much as a candidates records and in Bidens case his statements behind closed doors. He's always been a fairly center/right of center Dem and he's been quite clear he's just trying to return to the status quo. Putting some things on a website to try and win over people isn't that convincing, to me at least.


You realize that it is possible to change the stuff that is bad while keeping the good parts of the status quo?


You are assuming he can see the good parts. :)
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Postby Cisairse » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:57 am

Kruiven wrote:
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And despite being the darling of the Moderates he never did better than third place.

I never claimed he was a darling of the Moderates. I claimed he was welcomed by them. Which he clearly was.


Yes they welcomed him by voting against him.
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:58 am

Cisairse wrote:
Kruiven wrote:I never claimed he was a darling of the Moderates. I claimed he was welcomed by them. Which he clearly was.


Yes they welcomed him by voting against him.

Getting 10% to 15% seems welcome to me.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:00 am

Kruiven wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Yes they welcomed him by voting against him.

Getting 10% to 15% seems welcome to me.

Getting a single vote means they welcomed him? Is almost unheard of for a candidate not to get even a single vote

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Postby Cisairse » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:02 am

Kruiven wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Yes they welcomed him by voting against him.

Getting 10% to 15% seems welcome to me.


So getting 10% of the vote means you're welcome, but getting 30%-40% means you are not?
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:07 am

Cisairse wrote:
Kruiven wrote:Getting 10% to 15% seems welcome to me.


So getting 10% of the vote means you're welcome, but getting 30%-40% means you are not?

What? Sanders, Biden, Bloomberg, and Warren seemed to be the four to be accepted by voters. Although those were the only four real candidates left.
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Postby Cisairse » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:21 am

Kruiven wrote:
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So getting 10% of the vote means you're welcome, but getting 30%-40% means you are not?

What? Sanders, Biden, Bloomberg, and Warren seemed to be the four to be accepted by voters. Although those were the only four real candidates left.


Bernie Sanders has 30.91% of the popular vote. Bloomberg ended up with 9.81%. I really hope that you have enough sense to agree with me that 30.91 is over 3x 9.81. Which means, obviously, that Sanders has over 3x the support that Bloomberg does.

And yet, you said this:

Kruiven wrote:Stalin and Hitler would be welcome over Sanders as long as they were registered Dems.
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