Supply chains can be moved out of oppressive regimes. Tourism, less so.
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by Northern Davincia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:02 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Kannap » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:05 am
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Risottia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:08 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:This thread is simple enough.
Assuming there's no virus going around, two questions:
1. Would you want to visit North Korea as a tourist?
2. Is it ethical to visit North Korea?
by Risottia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:09 am
by Northern Davincia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:10 am
Risottia wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:This thread is simple enough.
Assuming there's no virus going around, two questions:
1. Would you want to visit North Korea as a tourist?
2. Is it ethical to visit North Korea?
By the same standards, visiting the US of A would raise the ethical question of supporting death penalty and mass racial profiling through the tax revenue your taxes would generate.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Kannap » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:21 am
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:24 am
by LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:30 am
Risottia wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:This thread is simple enough.
Assuming there's no virus going around, two questions:
1. Would you want to visit North Korea as a tourist?
2. Is it ethical to visit North Korea?
By the same standards, visiting the US of A would raise the ethical question of supporting death penalty and mass racial profiling through the tax revenue your taxes would generate.
by Vivolkha » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:36 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:You won't see how the people live. You'll see a very choreographed fantasy version prepared by the regime. And all the "dark tourism" money will go directly into the regime's pocket. Ethical? No. But maybe interesting as a study in propaganda.
by Northern Davincia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:12 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Page » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:26 am
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by Kannap » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:48 pm
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Bear Stearns » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:58 pm
by Bear Stearns » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:00 pm
Heloin wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
what do you mean by this
North Korea is a drug/counterfeit/human trafficking empire. It's how it makes the Kim family and the rest of their cronies so rich. The only thing you see visiting North Korea is a carefully scripted set of vignettes that the regime wants you to see to try and convince the world that they aren't the vicious tyrants that they in reality are.
by Heloin » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:07 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Heloin wrote:North Korea is a drug/counterfeit/human trafficking empire. It's how it makes the Kim family and the rest of their cronies so rich. The only thing you see visiting North Korea is a carefully scripted set of vignettes that the regime wants you to see to try and convince the world that they aren't the vicious tyrants that they in reality are.
They aren't that rich. There are professional athletes wealthier than them.
by Major-Tom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:30 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:15 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:1. Would you want to visit North Korea as a tourist?
2. Is it ethical to visit North Korea?
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:16 pm
Major-Tom wrote:It would be so intriguing and surreal to visit N.K, I've always had this morbid curiosity about the place. But venturing there is unethical, you're sending $$$ to the most deranged, inhuman government on the planet. Furthermore, whose to say you're not endangering other North Koreans, say your tour guide, locals, just because you might slip up.
by Albrenia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:18 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Major-Tom wrote:It would be so intriguing and surreal to visit N.K, I've always had this morbid curiosity about the place. But venturing there is unethical, you're sending $$$ to the most deranged, inhuman government on the planet. Furthermore, whose to say you're not endangering other North Koreans, say your tour guide, locals, just because you might slip up.
You send money to dictatorships with almost every transaction you make.
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:20 pm
Albrenia wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:You send money to dictatorships with almost every transaction you make.
Does that excuse doing it just for the lols then?
Polluting is bad, but we still do it every time we drive a car or even fart, nonetheless we shouldn't start burning down forests for cheap laughs.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:23 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Albrenia wrote:
Does that excuse doing it just for the lols then?
Polluting is bad, but we still do it every time we drive a car or even fart, nonetheless we shouldn't start burning down forests for cheap laughs.
It means if you're going to get on your high horse for $2000 dollars to North Korea, do it for the tens of thousands you probably send every year to Saudi Arabia.
by Albrenia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:24 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Albrenia wrote:
Does that excuse doing it just for the lols then?
Polluting is bad, but we still do it every time we drive a car or even fart, nonetheless we shouldn't start burning down forests for cheap laughs.
It means if you're going to get on your high horse for $2000 dollars to North Korea, do it for the tens of thousands you probably send every year to Saudi Arabia.
by Vetalia » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:25 pm
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:25 pm
Albrenia wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:It means if you're going to get on your high horse for $2000 dollars to North Korea, do it for the tens of thousands you probably send every year to Saudi Arabia.
So you're saying that it does excuse it? That the unfortunate state of things funnels money into the pockets of monsters means we can, indeed, do it for fun without the need to reconsider?
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