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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:57 am



I need to get a membership for the WSJ once this is over: got to save money. But an article from Politico says it could $1.6 trillion:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 ... ons-140334
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:58 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So you would have been fine if we had closed down the borders and said that if anyone wants to enter the US they have to sit in quarantine for two weeks at minimum?

Yes it would have been more sensible than what we are currently doing.


What exactly isn't sensible currently?
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:58 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Cuomo is the one governor I can look at and say “alright, you’re doing your fucking job.”

Kemp has actually done surprisingly well. All schools and most places of business are closed with the testing centers popping up everywhere


Forgot about Georgia, another slimy fuck who’s managing this quite well, then.

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Postby LRON » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:59 am

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That is simply not possible unless you want a total collapse of the economy.

Humans have had to do it in the past I am afraid. Some of my physician friends have said that we should prepare to deal with this for the next twelve to eighteen months. The big worry is that there might be more than one wave.
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Postby Valentian Elysium » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:01 am

I didn't see this posted here, but the International Baccalaureate (IB) has cancelled their May exams, thus affecting 200,000 students worldwide
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:01 am

LRON wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That is simply not possible unless you want a total collapse of the economy.

Humans have had to do it in the past I am afraid. Some of my physician friends have said that we should prepare to deal with this for the next twelve to eighteen months. The big worry is that there might be more than one wave.

No we haven't. eighteen months of this would mean a near total collapse of the economy, countless business bankrupt, the country having to default, and an end to democratic norms and freedoms.

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Postby Cisairse » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:02 am

Zurkerx wrote:


I need to get a membership for the WSJ once this is over: got to save money. But an article from Politico says it could $1.6 trillion:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 ... ons-140334


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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:02 am

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Ifreann wrote:People can be asymptomatic for more than two weeks.

Rarely. The two week quarantine would work quite well. As it would have stopped the vast majority of cases from entering the US.

It only takes one case to get in to spread it all over the country.

Yet you and others refused to enact such measures because of either “muh racism” or “muh economy”

Yes, I recall back in January when I ordered America's borders open.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:03 am

Just saw an estimate that 40-50% of people in New York will get infected before it's all over.
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Postby Cisairse » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:04 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Much the same here in WA. There's been pretty much no leadership from the state level for us.


Cuomo is the one governor I can look at and say “alright, you’re doing your fucking job.”


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Postby LRON » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:05 am

San Lumen wrote:
LRON wrote:Humans have had to do it in the past I am afraid. Some of my physician friends have said that we should prepare to deal with this for the next twelve to eighteen months. The big worry is that there might be more than one wave.

No we haven't. eighteen months of this would mean a near total collapse of the economy, countless business bankrupt, the country having to default, and an end to democratic norms and freedoms.

During many historical plagues, economic life was widely disrupted and many things came to a halt. Plague of Athens, Plague of Justinian, the Black Death, so on so forth.

Do you believe democracy to be so weak that it cannot survive this? My, my, doesn't that reveal a lot.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:05 am

Major-Tom wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I doubt we will be able to back to anything resembling normalcy anytime soon.


If we all follow the damn rules, we can get there in 3 weeks. But fuck me, all I see in my own social circle and on social media are people flagrantly disobeying the social distancing orders to party or to drive to Vegas.

So I’m not so optimistic.

And they are not getting sick or infecting other persons.

The Corona Virous threat Polls I am allowed to share with all fellow nations:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=polls ... ami_shores
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:05 am

LRON wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No we haven't. eighteen months of this would mean a near total collapse of the economy, countless business bankrupt, the country having to default, and an end to democratic norms and freedoms.

During many historical plagues, economic life was widely disrupted and many things came to a halt. Plague of Athens, Plague of Justinian, the Black Death, so on so forth.

Do you believe democracy to be so weak that it cannot survive this? My, my, doesn't that reveal a lot.


The world was different then.

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Postby LRON » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:06 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Just saw an estimate that 40-50% of people in New York will get infected before it's all over.

I thought it was supposed to be closer to sixty? Regardless, that is still quite a lot of people.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:06 am

LRON wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Just saw an estimate that 40-50% of people in New York will get infected before it's all over.

I thought it was supposed to be closer to sixty? Regardless, that is still quite a lot of people.

and according to evidence many will show no symptoms or have very mild ones.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:07 am

San Lumen wrote:
LRON wrote:I thought it was supposed to be closer to sixty? Regardless, that is still quite a lot of people.

and according to evidence many will show no symptoms or have very mild ones.

The Media are exaggerating the panic, the Media are creating the panic.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:08 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and according to evidence many will show no symptoms or have very mild ones.

The Media are exaggerating the panic.

I agree with you to a degree.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:08 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Media are exaggerating the panic.

I agree with you to a degree.


I never took you for an anti-media sort Lumen.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:09 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I agree with you to a degree.


I never took you for an anti-media sort Lumen.

I am not anti media and never have been

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:09 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Kemp has actually done surprisingly well. All schools and most places of business are closed with the testing centers popping up everywhere


Forgot about Georgia, another slimy fuck who’s managing this quite well, then.

Seems like the slimy fucks are doing quite well
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:10 am

San Lumen wrote:
LRON wrote:I thought it was supposed to be closer to sixty? Regardless, that is still quite a lot of people.

and according to evidence many will show no symptoms or have very mild ones.


Does anyone know what percentage survives, but with permanent damage to their lungs ?
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Postby LRON » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:10 am

San Lumen wrote:
LRON wrote:During many historical plagues, economic life was widely disrupted and many things came to a halt. Plague of Athens, Plague of Justinian, the Black Death, so on so forth.

Do you believe democracy to be so weak that it cannot survive this? My, my, doesn't that reveal a lot.


The world was different then.

Not as different as you would like to think.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:11 am

San Lumen wrote:
LRON wrote:During many historical plagues, economic life was widely disrupted and many things came to a halt. Plague of Athens, Plague of Justinian, the Black Death, so on so forth.

Do you believe democracy to be so weak that it cannot survive this? My, my, doesn't that reveal a lot.


The world was different then.

Not really
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Postby Aeritai » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:11 am

So far there's 118 cases in my state, hopefully the Governor will keep working with health officials to stop these cases rising or at least try to close our state borders.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:11 am

LRON wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The world was different then.

Not as different as you would like to think.

How was the world during the Black Plague not vastly different from it is now?

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