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[PASSED] Repeal: "Ensuring Safe Syringe Use"

Postby Morover » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:39 pm



General Assembly Resolution #482: Ensuring Safe Syringe Use (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly,

Noting the good intentions of GAR#482: "Ensuring Safe Syringe Use";

Believing that, despite these good intentions and eloquence of the target, it does have some significant issues, which most notably include the following:
  1. The use of the term "syringe" in place of "needle", the intended issue of GAR#482, which makes nearly all of the clauses obsolete, given that they have no actual significant effect on actual syringes, as syringes need significantly less disinfection than needles;
  2. The ambiguous use of the word "OR" in clause 1(a) which could lead to some confusion among the actual goal of the Epidemic and Pandemic Alert and Response Center;
Knowing that, as a result of these issues, the target resolution doesn't actually accomplish its goals effectively;

Wishing to replace GAR#482 with a resolution that does actually accomplish the noble goal that the target was initially intended to do;

Hereby repeals and strikes out "Ensuring Safe Syringe Use".


OOC: Decided to say "screw it" and go ahead with a repeal. Very rough. I will get a replacement up sooner or later. Comments are greatly appreciated.

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WA Resolution #482: Ensuring Safe Syringe Use (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly,

Noting the good intentions of GAR#482: "Ensuring Safe Syringe Use";

Believing that, in spite of these good intentions and eloquence of the target, it does have some significant issues, listed below in no specific order:
  1. The use of the term "syringe" in place of "needle", the intended issue of GAR#482, which makes nearly all of the clauses obsolete, given that they have no actual significant effect on actual syringes, given that syringes need significantly less disinfection than needles;
  2. The ambiguous use of the word "OR" in clause 1(a) which could lead to some confusion among the actual goal of the Epidemic and Pandemic Alert and Response Center;
Knowing that, as a result of these issues, the target resolution doesn't actually accomplish its goals effectively;

Wishing to replace GAR#482 with a resolution that does actually accomplish the noble goal that the target was initially intended to do,

Hereby repeals and strikes out "Ensuring Safe Syringe Use".

General Assembly Resolution #482: Ensuring Safe Syringe Use (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly,

Noting the good intentions of GAR#482: "Ensuring Safe Syringe Use";

Believing that, in spite of these good intentions and eloquence of the target, it does have some significant issues, which most notably include the following:
  1. The use of the term "syringe" in place of "needle", the intended issue of GAR#482, which makes nearly all of the clauses obsolete, given that they have no actual significant effect on actual syringes, given that syringes need significantly less disinfection than needles;
  2. The ambiguous use of the word "OR" in clause 1(a) which could lead to some confusion among the actual goal of the Epidemic and Pandemic Alert and Response Center;
Knowing that, as a result of these issues, the target resolution doesn't actually accomplish its goals effectively;

Wishing to replace GAR#482 with a resolution that does actually accomplish the noble goal that the target was initially intended to do,

Hereby repeals and strikes out "Ensuring Safe Syringe Use".
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:58 pm

Full support... although I am baffled that you would choose to claim that your list of two items is arranged "in no specific order." :P

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Postby The COT Corporation » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:52 pm

"Although the target resolution had good intentions, your arguments are compelling - support."
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:47 pm

"Assuming a prompt replacement would be drafted, Cisairse would support this proposal were it to come to a vote."
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Postby Morover » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:15 pm

OOC:

Bump. I'm going to try and get a replacement draft up-and-running soon, but I wanna get this discussion going, too.

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Postby Aprenencia » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:18 pm

"This receives my support ambassoner."
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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:55 am

“Full support, I have nothing to add.”
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Postby Morover » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:05 am

OOC:

Barring further criticisms of either this repeal or the replacement draft here, this shall be submitted on May Seventh, exactly fourteen days from now.

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Postby Morover » Sat May 02, 2020 9:16 am

OOC: I made a few changes to the grammar of the text, and this is still intended to be submitted in five days, on the seventh.


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Postby Maowi » Thu May 07, 2020 4:03 pm

"Good luck ambassador - we're hoping this repeal and replace effort is successful."

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Postby Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Sat May 16, 2020 3:14 am

Although the arguments are well-articulated, they are not very convincing for me.

1. When attached to a syringe needle is a part of it and thus, in my view, covered by the existing regulations. Some syringes even come with fixed needles. It ought to be further noted that even the syringe proper needs disinfection, if it is going to be filled with a new substance.

2. "Or" is indeed an ambiguous word, as it can be used in an inclusive and exclusive sense. But in the context of the resolution you target, it is clear enough. EPARC is mandated to create the procedures for using new sterile syringes and an alternative set of procedures, when following this first isn't an option, for disinfecting used ones. The usage of "when possible" in a. and it's absence in b. makes it obvious that this is the case, using new syringes is preferred but sometimes this may not be possible (for example due to budget restraints) so a fallback procedure must be present. The legislator could have worded this clearer, but by employing the proper rules for interpretation these clauses pose no issue.

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Postby Maowi » Sat May 16, 2020 4:24 pm

Sancta Romana Ecclesia wrote:1. When attached to a syringe needle is a part of it and thus, in my view, covered by the existing regulations. Some syringes even come with fixed needles. It ought to be further noted that even the syringe proper needs disinfection, if it is going to be filled with a new substance.

"While the interpretation of a needle as constituting part of the syringe when attached is a reasonable one, so, in my view, is that of the two being separate, and the target as such failing to cover the proper handling of needles. If a member state wishing to do so is able to interpret it in such a way as to allow them not to impose certain regulations, the resolution fails in its stated aim."

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Postby Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Mon May 18, 2020 2:18 am

Maowi wrote:"While the interpretation of a needle as constituting part of the syringe when attached is a reasonable one, so, in my view, is that of the two being separate, and the target as such failing to cover the proper handling of needles. If a member state wishing to do so is able to interpret it in such a way as to allow them not to impose certain regulations, the resolution fails in its stated aim."

That would be true, if the clauses were addressed to the member states, but the majority of them is addressed to EPARC. This committee is therefore charged with interpreting what "syringe" means here, if EPARC explains it as including also the needle, the states won't have any room to interpret it otherwise. And I believe it's reasonable to assume that a committee, unlike a nation, has no interest in overlooking the purpose of the law and making a restrictive reading.

Mandates that all healthcare organizations and medical personnel follow these international standards or utilize new, sterile syringes


This is the only clause addressed to members, as opposed to the committee. It unfortunately is redundant with the preceding para. 1 letter a (as that already makes utilizing "new, sterile syringes" part of the "international standards"), but this doesn't change the fact that nations would either follow the international procedures set up by the committee (which would include needles, in my opinion) or utilize "new, sterile syringes".

Attaching a non-sterile needle to a sterile syringe, I believe, cannot be defended as good faith interpretation of that clause. Disregarding that, there's no economic advantage in sticking an old needle to a brand new syringe, I would imagine the latter are more expensive.
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Postby Flying Eagles » Mon May 18, 2020 8:56 am

OOC: For anyone curious, the proposed replacement is https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=483654
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Postby McMasterdonia » Mon May 18, 2020 9:09 am

The North Pacific’s Ministry of World Assembly Affairs has issued a recommendation of FOR on this proposal. I have also voted FOR in line with the vote on our regional forum.

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Postby Wallenburg » Mon May 18, 2020 9:09 am

Needles are syringes. I don't see what the issue is here.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Mon May 18, 2020 9:12 am

"I am in support of this repeal effort so long as a replacement is going to be drafted adequately."
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon May 18, 2020 9:13 am

Marxist Germany wrote:"I am in support of this repeal effort so long as a replacement is going to be drafted adequately."

The replacement's drafting thread is linked at the top of the OP, in big bold lettering.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Mon May 18, 2020 9:16 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:"I am in support of this repeal effort so long as a replacement is going to be drafted adequately."

The replacement's drafting thread is linked at the top of the OP, in big bold lettering.

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Postby Kenmoria » Mon May 18, 2020 9:16 am

Wallenburg wrote:Needles are syringes. I don't see what the issue is here.

(OOC: The syringe is the liquid-filled chamber above the needle. They refer to different things, although lots of people use syringe to mean the entire device.)
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Postby Acronis » Mon May 18, 2020 9:53 am

Even if syringes and needles are different things, do syringes not still need to be carefully sterilized? I can certainly see the need to make sure there are specific requirements for needles, but could that not be done by writing a new resolution without repealing the one that already exists? That way there is still regulation on one while we vote upon the other, rather than wiping everything out completely.

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Postby Morover » Mon May 18, 2020 10:02 am

Acronis wrote:Even if syringes and needles are different things, do syringes not still need to be carefully sterilized? I can certainly see the need to make sure there are specific requirements for needles, but could that not be done by writing a new resolution without repealing the one that already exists? That way there is still regulation on one while we vote upon the other, rather than wiping everything out completely.

If you read the replacement, you'll see that it covers syringes as well.

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