Coronavirus Thread mark II: Official Apocalyptic Edition

[San Lumen]

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It certainly won't come in a few weeks. You have to develop it first, then test it, which they do on animals first to see if it's effective and safe. Then they move to humans. Getting results will take weeks. Once a vaccine is approve, it'll take months to mass produce. For SARS, it took them 20 months to develop a vaccine if I remember correctly. We'll have one by the end of the year but you can produce so many per year, and likely, people 50 or older would get that priority.

Coronavirus vaccine tests are already being performed on human subjects.

It will not be available for widespread use until at least early next year sadly

[Vetalia]

Coronavirus vaccine tests are already being performed on human subjects.

It will not be available for widespread use until at least early next year sadly

I doubt it, if it's proven to work it will be rushed to production.

[San Lumen]

It will not be available for widespread use until at least early next year sadly

I doubt it, if it's proven to work it will be rushed to production.

That can take months

[Thermodolia]

that is simply because the workers have not yet risen brother

They likely will if these measures continue several months and they have no money.

It’s more likely that the US military will take charge before that

[Doge Land]

Not going to stop him from using it. This is Trump we're talking about- "It's unconstitutional" will have even less effect than it does on every other president. Especially in the middle of a state of emergency where he can bring his whole political machine, and a good portion of the opposing political machine, to bear on anyone who tries to stop him.

Id rather not see I am Legend become reality and neither does the medical community. There arent going to utilize an untested vaccine

Of course they aren't. That's obvious. But I do see national health organizations letting vaccines go out that have had minimal amounts of testing if say, a few hundred more people die in their country. People will do anything to stop a crisis.

If the health organizations don't approve the vaccine, big pharma will just bribe them. Easy as that.

The Gates Foundation would go absolutely crazy if this happened. Like they'd be like "These vaccines aren't tested for large groups don't take them!!"

At this point though governments should just tell their citizens to get tested and then put all the cases in a hospital or in some kind of isolation area.

[Cannot think of a name]

Without the Coronavirus, we would have likely experienced one in 2021 or 2022, likely a mild one. That's what several people working in the finance field have told me. In the case of the US, this is our longest period of economic growth in our history: it can't keep continuing. Now, do I know when exactly? No, I don't. But I'll surely take the advice of several experts, who laughed at people thinking we would go into one in 2017, 18, or 19. 2020 they were split.

Funny thing is, they are forecasting it all the time in 2018 and 2019, ironically extending it. I'd start worrying when they say that there's no brakes in the bull market, because that's when things tend to go bad.

This is not at all rigorous or scientific and should not be taken seriously, but...the Supercar index doesn't look good.

This is based on a weird set of circumstances that if examined closely will likely have tons of holes. In the late 80s and early nineties, right before the downturn that ousted Bush the Senior, Ferrari and Porsche entered into a super car war. Then a recession hit. At the end of the nineties fueled by the McLaren F1 there was another rash of super cars from Porsche, Jaguar, Mercedes, even Toyota. Then a recession hit.

Right before 2008, another surge of super cars. Another crash.

Now, there are more options for someone looking to spend seven figures on a car that can't reach their top speed on any road or track available than there are cars under $20,000. Koenigsegg has a 330mph car, there are three...three million dollar barchettas to choose from. That's a car that cost over a million dollars that doesn't have a roof. If the supercar index was a real thing and not something I shoehorned into be a thing, it would indicated a huge crash ahead.

Since the first one I 'predicted' the next two by saying 'welp, there are too many super cars. Time for a downturn.'

Mostly I just think there are too many dumb super cars. Whether or not they predict the economy...well, they probably don't.

But if we're throwing predictions around...

[Diopolis]

So global warming will save us

Well kind of.
Specifically, from what I've seen, the speculation is that coronaviruses are suppressed by wet heat specifically. That's good news for Texas(and most of the rest of the south), where the monsoon strikes at the beginning of the warm months, and it's then 100 degrees for six months. That's very bad news for Italy and California, where it's much dryer when it's hot.

[Zurkerx]

the economic damage will have been done.

There is well founded but unproven speculation that coronavirus will be very difficult to transmit outside of flu season. If that is the case, some of the more extreme social distancing measures can be abandoned with warmer weather to mitigate much of the damage.

COVID-19 virus can be transmitted in areas with hot and humid climates

From the evidence so far, the COVID-19 virus can be transmitted in ALL AREAS, including areas with hot and humid weather. Regardless of climate, adopt protective measures if you live in, or travel to an area reporting COVID-19. The best way to protect yourself against COVID-19 is by frequently cleaning your hands. By doing this you eliminate viruses that may be on your hands and avoid infection that could occur by then touching your eyes, mouth, and nose.

That is from WHO. Sure, maybe it doesn't spread as fast but you'll still get it if precautions aren't properly taken. We'll need more data gathered.

[San Lumen]

They likely will if these measures continue several months and they have no money.

It’s more likely that the US military will take charge before that

what is your obsession with coups? Its really is quite frighting.

[San Lumen]

There is well founded but unproven speculation that coronavirus will be very difficult to transmit outside of flu season. If that is the case, some of the more extreme social distancing measures can be abandoned with warmer weather to mitigate much of the damage.

COVID-19 virus can be transmitted in areas with hot and humid climates

From the evidence so far, the COVID-19 virus can be transmitted in ALL AREAS, including areas with hot and humid weather. Regardless of climate, adopt protective measures if you live in, or travel to an area reporting COVID-19. The best way to protect yourself against COVID-19 is by frequently cleaning your hands. By doing this you eliminate viruses that may be on your hands and avoid infection that could occur by then touching your eyes, mouth, and nose.

That is from WHO. Sure, maybe it doesn't spread as fast but you'll still get it if precautions aren't properly taken. We'll need more data gathered.

Therefore we cannot keep the world shut down indefinitely

[Diopolis]

They likely will if these measures continue several months and they have no money.

It’s more likely that the US military will take charge before that

Hail the boogaloo!

[Vetalia]

I doubt it, if it's proven to work it will be rushed to production.

That can take months

True, the estimate is even if this vaccine works it will take around 18 months to become widely available. However, the numerous antiviral treatments either available or in process may help a lot in the meantime.

[Cannot think of a name]

So, I'm not the biggest fan of extraordinary punishment or punishment that has more to do with making the punishers feel good than addressing the issue, but I wouldn't be completely against the chance to throw some rotten eggs at people doing this. If you're using this crisis to scam people, fuuuuuuck you.

[Zurkerx]

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It certainly won't come in a few weeks. You have to develop it first, then test it, which they do on animals first to see if it's effective and safe. Then they move to humans. Getting results will take weeks. Once a vaccine is approve, it'll take months to mass produce. For SARS, it took them 20 months to develop a vaccine if I remember correctly. We'll have one by the end of the year but you can produce so many per year, and likely, people 50 or older would get that priority.

Coronavirus vaccine tests are already being performed on human subjects.

I see. That's a big gamble to do. They have to be paying whoever they give said vaccine a large amount of money because there's great risk, especially if it doesn't work.

[Thermodolia]

Abandoning those orders does not result in everyone holding hands it results in the medical system collapsing under the weight of new cases which sure as shit isn't going to help the poor.

and if you keep everything closed until there is a vaccine you'll collapse the economy

That’s not the point of it though. The point is to not overwhelm the hospitals

[San Lumen]

and if you keep everything closed until there is a vaccine you'll collapse the economy

That’s not the point of it though. The point is to not overwhelm the hospitals

I understand that but if you dont want economic ruin that makes the 1930s look like good times you cannot keep everything closed until there is a vaccine

[Cannot think of a name]

There is well founded but unproven speculation that coronavirus will be very difficult to transmit outside of flu season. If that is the case, some of the more extreme social distancing measures can be abandoned with warmer weather to mitigate much of the damage.

COVID-19 virus can be transmitted in areas with hot and humid climates

From the evidence so far, the COVID-19 virus can be transmitted in ALL AREAS, including areas with hot and humid weather. Regardless of climate, adopt protective measures if you live in, or travel to an area reporting COVID-19. The best way to protect yourself against COVID-19 is by frequently cleaning your hands. By doing this you eliminate viruses that may be on your hands and avoid infection that could occur by then touching your eyes, mouth, and nose.

That is from WHO. Sure, maybe it doesn't spread as fast but you'll still get it if precautions aren't properly taken. We'll need more data gathered.

What about hot dry weather, asking for a bunch of friends...(nevermind, I know the answer. I just wanted the 'but it's a dry heat' thing to actually work out for me for once...)

[Thermodolia]

Recessions take years to recover from. Your point?

we didnt have to shoot ourselves in the foot. This recession is self created. I dont see all these restrictions going away anytime soon.

Dude if we didn’t quarantine anyone we’d have at best 20 million dead with millions more dying. All because the hospitals where overwhelmed. That’s what’s happening in Italy right now

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Science bless all people.21 people died in Turkey

[San Lumen]

we didnt have to shoot ourselves in the foot. This recession is self created. I dont see all these restrictions going away anytime soon.

Dude if we didn’t quarantine anyone we’d have at best 20 million dead with millions more dying. All because the hospitals where overwhelmed. That’s what’s happening in Italy right now

and even Italy is lifting the their quarantine early next month from what I heard because even they know if they don't they will collapse their entire economy

[Thermodolia]

the problem is that there's not only is there so much money to go around at the state level to sustain standards of living comparable to pre-lockdown levels, they face a passive-aggressive hostility from a federal government that has not only expressly told them to fend for themselves, but has been outbidding them for supplies, to profiteer in all likelihood

there is no wasy way out of this quagmire, not while trump is president, november still millions of years away, and with most of the world in crisis mode

If we're already shutting down most sectors of the economy, is it really that much more of an issue to just start handing money or food to people?

Coronavirus really is a comrade.

[Tourais]

With now 25,000 cases of COVID-19, the United States has now passed Spain for the third most cases in the world.

[Diopolis]

According to the CDC, there are currently 15219 confirmed coronavirus cases with 201 fatalities, which makes an "official" fatality rate of 1.3%. A recent study suggests that six out of seven cases are undetected. If we combine the two numbers under the assumption that every coronavirus fatality is correctly recorded, this creates a .19% "true" fatality rate. That's about double the flu.

[Diopolis]

Coronavirus vaccine tests are already being performed on human subjects.

I see. That's a big gamble to do. They have to be paying whoever they give said vaccine a large amount of money because there's great risk, especially if it doesn't work.

IIRC it's like $1100 for a two week trial, and it's using a slight modification of a vaccine for something or other that's been successful and safe in animals for years.
Personally if I lived in Seattle, I would be willing to pay $1100 to be part of that trial.

[Cisairse]

With now 25,000 cases of COVID-19, the United States has now passed Spain for the third most cases in the world.

And my state is 3rd in the nation for most cases.

Shiiiiit. I guess this is better than being ground zero, but ground six really isn't much better.