by Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:27 pm
by United Muscovite Nations » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:42 pm
by Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:45 pm
Nakena wrote:An very interesting fellow he was. With some unorthodox and thought provoking takes. He'd be missed.
Press F for respects.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:39 pm
by Sharania » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:45 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:49 pm
Sharania wrote:Oh no, a fascist war criminal died who participation in a genocide. To make matters worse, by the end of his life he became Putin’s Ukrainophobic lapdog, supporting Crimea’s occupation and Russia’s aggression against Ukraine.
Limonov literally shot at civilians during the siege of Sarajevo along with convicted war criminal Karadzic. There isn’t much to mourn.
Nazbols absolutely deserve to be canceled and called fascists.
by The Holy Therns » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:52 pm
Gallade wrote:Love, cake, wine and banter. No greater meaning to life (〜^∇^)〜
Ethel mermania wrote:to therns is to transend the pettiness of the field of play into the field of dreams.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:53 pm
Sharania wrote:Oh no, a fascist war criminal died who participation in a genocide. To make matters worse, by the end of his life he became Putin’s Ukrainophobic lapdog, supporting Crimea’s occupation and Russia’s aggression against Ukraine.
Limonov literally shot at civilians during the siege of Sarajevo along with convicted war criminal Karadzic. There isn’t much to mourn.
Nazbols absolutely deserve to be canceled and called fascists.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:02 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:05 pm
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Sharania wrote:Oh no, a fascist war criminal died who participation in a genocide. To make matters worse, by the end of his life he became Putin’s Ukrainophobic lapdog, supporting Crimea’s occupation and Russia’s aggression against Ukraine.
Limonov literally shot at civilians during the siege of Sarajevo along with convicted war criminal Karadzic. There isn’t much to mourn.
Nazbols absolutely deserve to be canceled and called fascists.
It's not all bad, Dugin's still alive and kicking so there's that.
Nakena wrote:Wasn't it mostly a meme ideology?
by The Liberated Territories » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:12 pm
by Albennia » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:20 pm
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:It's not all bad, Dugin's still alive and kicking so there's that.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Albennia wrote:A truly tragic, awful event, one made even worse by the fact I only found out through NSG.
by Risottia » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:32 pm
Nouveau Quebecois wrote: National Bolshevik Party
by The Holy Therns » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:35 pm
Risottia wrote:Nouveau Quebecois wrote: National Bolshevik Party
The mere concept of "National Bolshevism" is so mind-boggling...
...well, considering how the Nazis were officially "National Socialists", not so weird.
It's just the usual fucking fascists: serving the best interests of the reactionary bourgeoisie while waving a reddish flag.
With the more ludicrous aspect that, of all countries, this specific variant of fascists popped up in the country that was most targeted by the fascists for extermination.
Slavic Nazis. Makes about as much sense as Jewish Nazis ffs.
Gallade wrote:Love, cake, wine and banter. No greater meaning to life (〜^∇^)〜
Ethel mermania wrote:to therns is to transend the pettiness of the field of play into the field of dreams.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:35 pm
by Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:36 pm
The Holy Therns wrote:Risottia wrote:The mere concept of "National Bolshevism" is so mind-boggling...
...well, considering how the Nazis were officially "National Socialists", not so weird.
It's just the usual fucking fascists: serving the best interests of the reactionary bourgeoisie while waving a reddish flag.
With the more ludicrous aspect that, of all countries, this specific variant of fascists popped up in the country that was most targeted by the fascists for extermination.
Slavic Nazis. Makes about as much sense as Jewish Nazis ffs.
Yea, nothing of any particular value was lost here.
by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:40 pm
by Sharania » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:46 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:NazBols aren't Fascists.
The co-chairman of the National Salvation Front was Aleksandr Prokhanov, who was also the editor in chief of Dyen, the mouthpiece of the National Salvation Front, which published the vilest anti-Semitism such as excerpts of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and expressed support for Western neo-Nazis. Also involved in the National Salvation Front were Aleksandr Dugin, who was published in and helped edit Dyen, and Eduard Limonov, a former Russian exile who had been part of punk and leftist circles in the US, met Alain de Benoist in Paris, and participated in the Yugoslav war on the side of Radovan Karadzic before returning to Russia and joining the red-brown opposition to Yeltsin. Limonov was conscious that overt fascism had no means of succeeding in Russia because of the legacy of the Soviet Union’s participation in the Second World War and therefore he decided to attempt introducing it there through covert ways, and he and Dugin instead formed the National Bolshevik Front, which was itself part of the National Salvation Front and occupied a prominent position in the Russian counter culture...
...The winners of [1994] elections, however, included the the KPRF, which won 32 seats in the State Duma, and the misleadingly-named far-right Liberal Democratic Party of Russia of hardline far-right nationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky (who had been close to Eduard Limonov around that time, Limonov having toured him around Paris in 1992, where he introduced Zhirinovsky to Jean-Marie Le Pen, who subsequently endorsed Zhirinovsky’s presidential bid), which won 59 seats, as result of the anti-Yeltsin protest vote...
Faced with economic and social deterioration in Russia, Yelstin took an increasingly racist populist turn and started targeting ethnic minorities in Russia in the mid-1990s and in 1994 invaded Chechnya. At this point the National Salvation Front began to disaggregate, prominent National Salvation Front members criticizing the war while Zhirinovsky, Limonov and Barkashov instead supported Yeltsin’s policies and the bloodbath unleashed in Chechnya, with Limonov leaving the Front and lambasting its members opposed to the war as “moderates”. Around this time Limonov broke with Zhirinovsky, who went on to throw his support behind Yeltsin in 1998.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:They're the Russian equivalent of Ba'athists: Ultranationalist Socialists.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:And no, being an Ultranationalist Socialist doesn't make you a Fascist.
by Risottia » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:46 pm
by The Holy Therns » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:47 pm
Gallade wrote:Love, cake, wine and banter. No greater meaning to life (〜^∇^)〜
Ethel mermania wrote:to therns is to transend the pettiness of the field of play into the field of dreams.
by Nouveau Quebecois » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:00 pm
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