
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:17 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

by Saiwania » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:53 pm

by Rojava Free State » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:20 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by The Republic of Fore » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:30 pm
Saiwania wrote:The third perspective I'd offer is that you don't have to be bothered by other people trying to shame you on that basis. Practically speaking, most people aren't going to know too much about your private life. Especially if you're not too public about it or some celebrity. What you do after work hours is your own business. Pretend as if you've already had sex before (even if you haven't) and treat it as it being no big deal if that is what you see fit. The better approach is to let people think what they want.
It is better to be a virgin but not have an STI or any unwanted children, than to not be but have either of those as a consequence. You're more screwed generally speaking, if you aren't financially ready or fully self sufficient. Where I live, if you don't pay child support (if you're ordered to by a court) you will have your driver's license revoked. A few other negative consequences might happen, but yes- its a path to extreme poverty if not lower status to make too many stupid or reckless decisions, outside of just not being skilled/competitive enough to "win" under capitalism.
It is a harsh truth that no one is obligated to help lazy or subpar people a stable living, they have to make that happen on their own if not try to, when going out there. The same is true for someone in the realm of romance. It is on them to seduce someone, or to stay single for life.

by Vetalia » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:34 pm
The Republic of Fore wrote:Bit of a side note, but I don't understand the mass panic people seem to have over STD's/STI's. You do know that condoms and STD tests both exist right? And that the vast majority of STD's are curable? Even children can be easily avoided.

by Saiwania » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:35 pm
The Republic of Fore wrote:Bit of a side note, but I don't understand the mass panic people seem to have over STD's/STI's. You do know that condoms and STD tests both exist right? And that the vast majority of STD's are curable? Even children can be easily avoided.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:52 pm
Saiwania wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:Bit of a side note, but I don't understand the mass panic people seem to have over STD's/STI's. You do know that condoms and STD tests both exist right? And that the vast majority of STD's are curable? Even children can be easily avoided.
Most opportunities for sex aren't quite so formal, it could well be at a time/place where you aren't prepared and if you let it "just happen" you've already gone too far in that there are some consequences going forward perhaps. You and the other person aren't going to stay "lustful/turned on" if the momentum for it is broken. What you say can matter just as much as what you do.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:04 pm
Saiwania wrote:The third perspective I'd offer is that you don't have to be bothered by other people trying to shame you on that basis. Practically speaking, most people aren't going to know too much about your private life.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

by Cekoviu » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:07 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Saiwania wrote:The third perspective I'd offer is that you don't have to be bothered by other people trying to shame you on that basis. Practically speaking, most people aren't going to know too much about your private life.
That's not an answer, it's a sidestep.
Firstly, if it is human nature to have more respect for males with a strong sexual history
Secondly, if women prefer men with a stronger sexual history, is it deceit by omission not to bring up my lack thereof, even though if you're a virgin past a given age threshold (whatever that threshold may be) it might be too late?
We have rape by fraud laws right now, and they're often applied to men who lied about whether they're Arab or Israeli. Might they be morally equivalent, if not legally equivalent, to having sex with a woman as a virgin when she wanted a non-virgin man?

by New haven america » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:08 pm

by United Muscovite Nations » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:09 pm

by The Republic of Fore » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:11 pm
Saiwania wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:Bit of a side note, but I don't understand the mass panic people seem to have over STD's/STI's. You do know that condoms and STD tests both exist right? And that the vast majority of STD's are curable? Even children can be easily avoided.
Most opportunities for sex aren't quite so formal, it could well be at a time/place where you aren't prepared and if you let it "just happen" you've already gone too far in that there are some consequences going forward perhaps. You and the other person aren't going to stay "lustful/turned on" if the momentum for it is broken. What you say can matter just as much as what you do.

by The Snazzylands » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:12 pm

by The Republic of Fore » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:12 pm
Vetalia wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:Bit of a side note, but I don't understand the mass panic people seem to have over STD's/STI's. You do know that condoms and STD tests both exist right? And that the vast majority of STD's are curable? Even children can be easily avoided.
Eh, I have that kind of attitude towards STIs. STIs are now resistant to multiple antibiotics and pretty soon they will be completely resistant, the rates have kept climbing in recent years and pretty soon it will be a serious public health problem. Ironically, they might end up being much more dangerous than HIV.

by Vetalia » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:08 pm
The Republic of Fore wrote:Even then, keep a condom on you man. And if you have a regular partner, both of you should get tested. IF you're responsible It's not hard to avoid it.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:10 pm
Vetalia wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:Even then, keep a condom on you man. And if you have a regular partner, both of you should get tested. IF you're responsible It's not hard to avoid it.
I think the IF is the big part of the problem here. Really mystifying that safer sex practices are becoming less widespread despite much higher danger from STIs.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:49 pm

by Saiwania » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:51 pm
The Republic of Fore wrote:As other people have mentioned, that's why you keep a condom on you. And an ever increasing number of girls carry them as well.

by Cekoviu » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:52 pm
Saiwania wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:As other people have mentioned, that's why you keep a condom on you. And an ever increasing number of girls carry them as well.
No, I can't just keep one on me, given that the norm for me is more likely to not be having sex anytime soon (if ever). By the time sex is a possibility, the condom could be expired. This is putting aside the fact that condoms are said to take away 90%+ of the pleasure to be had with sex away from the man.

by Neanderthaland » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:57 pm
Saiwania wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:As other people have mentioned, that's why you keep a condom on you. And an ever increasing number of girls carry them as well.
No, I can't just keep one on me, given that the norm for me is more likely to not be having sex anytime soon (if ever). By the time sex is a possibility, the condom could be expired. This is putting aside the fact that condoms are said to take away 90%+ of the pleasure to be had with sex away from the man.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:58 pm
Cekoviu wrote:Saiwania wrote:
No, I can't just keep one on me, given that the norm for me is more likely to not be having sex anytime soon (if ever). By the time sex is a possibility, the condom could be expired. This is putting aside the fact that condoms are said to take away 90%+ of the pleasure to be had with sex away from the man.
By whom?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:58 pm
Neanderthaland wrote:Saiwania wrote:
No, I can't just keep one on me, given that the norm for me is more likely to not be having sex anytime soon (if ever). By the time sex is a possibility, the condom could be expired. This is putting aside the fact that condoms are said to take away 90%+ of the pleasure to be had with sex away from the man.
Oh... no? It feels better without, but this 90% figure is ludicrous.
Also, it really doesn't take that much effort to switch out the condom in your wallet every six months. Just do it when you get your oil changed.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:58 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:There's nothing wrong with being a virgin, there is something wrong with being an incel. The latter communicates some kind of deficit in interaction that needs to be solved.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Never understood how a culture that evolved on Christian traditions - in which a virgin is a key, central figure - ended up bagging on folks who can't get laid/haven't been laid yet.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

by Saiwania » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:03 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Firstly, if it is human nature to have more respect for males with a strong sexual history.
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Secondly, if women prefer men with a stronger sexual history, is it deceit by omission not to bring up my lack thereof, even though if you're a virgin past a given age threshold (whatever that threshold may be) it might be too late?
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:We have rape by fraud laws right now, and they're often applied to men who lied about whether they're Arab or Israeli. Might they be morally equivalent, if not legally equivalent, to having sex with a woman as a virgin when she wanted a non-virgin man?
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